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How the Door to Fascism Was Opened In America (and the World) After WWII

Nov 28, 2010
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"With the defeat of Hitler and Mussolini, anti-fascism’s raison d’être was widely thought to have evaporated. To some extent, this dismissal of anti-fascism grew out of the Western tendency to interpret fascism as an extreme form of “evil” to which anyone who let down their moral guard could be subject — as opposed to the similarly distorted Soviet bloc interpretation of fascism as “the terroristic dictatorship of the most reactionary…elements of finance capital.”

After 1945 was enshrined as a terminal break with an aberrant period of “barbarism,” this individualistic, moral interpretation of fascism discounted the need for political movements to vigilantly oppose far-right organizing. In other words, once fascism was understood almost entirely in apolitical and moral terms, any semblance of continuity between far-right politics and opposition to it over time was rejected."

(from Antifa: The Antifascist Handbook)
 
I've been blaming the recent rise of fascism in America on folks like Jonah Goldberg - who seems to have convinced many on the right, including some here - that Nazism was a leftist shit show, not the vile manifestation on the right that sensible people know it to have been. I know, ludicrous. But that's the claim and people on the right rushed to buy in.
 
Read this the other day. Hopefully will add to thread, rather than derail. Feel free to copy/paste the content. I'll just link it:

 
I've been blaming the recent rise of fascism in America on folks like Jonah Goldberg - who seems to have convinced many on the right, including some here - that Nazism was a leftist shit show, not the vile manifestation on the right that sensible people know it to have been. I know, ludicrous. But that's the claim and people on the right rushed to buy in.
To be honest, they claimed to be the National Socialist German Workers' Party. But the gullible don't seem to realize that was in name only. As long as business paid homage to the fuhrer and movement, they were allowed to be capitalist. If they didn't adhere, it was taken and given to those who did. This is why the Soviet Union considered capitalism as fascist. Little did they know that Russia would morph into the most fascist state in the world. And for that matter, China is also much more fascist than communist today.
 
I've been blaming the recent rise of fascism in America on folks like Jonah Goldberg - who seems to have convinced many on the right, including some here - that Nazism was a leftist shit show, not the vile manifestation on the right that sensible people know it to have been. I know, ludicrous. But that's the claim and people on the right rushed to buy in.

Fvcking facts
 
I've been blaming the recent rise of fascism in America on folks like Jonah Goldberg - who seems to have convinced many on the right, including some here - that Nazism was a leftist shit show, not the vile manifestation on the right that sensible people know it to have been. I know, ludicrous. But that's the claim and people on the right rushed to buy in.
You really are a baffoon.:rolleyes:
 

How does this not scream modern leftists? Suppression of speech they don't agree with, forcing the citizenry to adhere to fanciful laws and norms that many do not agree with, claiming everything they don't want or agree with to be racist.​

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fascism​

noun

fas·cism ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm
also ˈfa-ˌsi-

1
often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
 

How does this not scream modern leftists? Suppression of speech they don't agree with, forcing the citizenry to adhere to fanciful laws and norms that many do not agree with, claiming everything they don't want or agree with to be racist.​

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fascism​

noun

fas·cism ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm
also ˈfa-ˌsi-

1
often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
Bingo. The closest we came to fascism in America in my lifetime was during the COVID lockdowns. See Governor's like Newsome, Pritzker, Cuomo, Whitmer and other autocratic control freaks at all levels of government.
 
To be honest, they claimed to be the National Socialist German Workers' Party. But the gullible don't seem to realize that was in name only. As long as business paid homage to the fuhrer and movement, they were allowed to be capitalist. If they didn't adhere, it was taken and given to those who did. This is why the Soviet Union considered capitalism as fascist. Little did they know that Russia would morph into the most fascist state in the world. And for that matter, China is also much more fascist than communist today.
Yep. The "National Socialist" party was socialist in the same sense that N.Korea's "Democratic People's Republic" is a democracy and a republic.
 

How does this not scream modern leftists? Suppression of speech they don't agree with, forcing the citizenry to adhere to fanciful laws and norms that many do not agree with, claiming everything they don't want or agree with to be racist.​

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fascism​

noun

fas·cism ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm
also ˈfa-ˌsi-

1
often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
And you call someone else a baffoon? 😄
 
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Read this the other day. Hopefully will add to thread, rather than derail. Feel free to copy/paste the content. I'll just link it:

"[P]olitical fascism ... is primarily a nationalist ideology which derives obedience from the masses through providing emotional outlets. It is anti-rational, anti-intellectual and anti-communist, even as it uses the tools of rationality and science to create a new form of collectivism."
 
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