How will self driving cars & trucks change your life?
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At this time I find myself spending 2 hours a day in my car. Will be nice when that’s completely free time, but I suspect by the time I get one I’ll be back down to around 80 minutes of driving a day.
Extra 5 hours free time a week is over 10 days of extra free time in a year.
That and fewer injuries/deaths will be nice.
Extra 5 hours free time a week is over 10 days of extra free time in a year.
That and fewer injuries/deaths will be nice.
If I can replace owning a car with subscribing to a self-driving co-op or Uber type service that had reasonable ride availability given an hour or so of notice, I would do that tomorrow. As for owning my own self-driving car if the service is never created or is unaffordable or if my transportation needs change, it'd be all about the price tag early on meaning I probably wouldn't make the switch until there's a decent inventory of used self-driving cars.
Can’t wait to sit back and play on my phone while the vehicle drives me along I80
Sign me up for more car sex and road head!
Teslas have driver facing cameras. Will the CCP dude watching your sex tape be impressed?
I'd certainly love to get a self driving car, but I'd likely wait until it's pretty widely adopted.
I'm far more concerned about people still driving their own cars getting frustrated, being aggressive aholes, and causing wrecks, than I would be about my own car killing me.
At the point where adoption is like 20%, 1 in 5 cars will be driving along at the speed limit, braking earlier, etc., and that's gonna piss off a bunch of bros in their pickups/bimmers/ challengers, etc. Those guys are gonna want to make a point.
I'm far more concerned about people still driving their own cars getting frustrated, being aggressive aholes, and causing wrecks, than I would be about my own car killing me.
At the point where adoption is like 20%, 1 in 5 cars will be driving along at the speed limit, braking earlier, etc., and that's gonna piss off a bunch of bros in their pickups/bimmers/ challengers, etc. Those guys are gonna want to make a point.
90% of my time on the road is on a “T” shaped stretch of roads that has about 50 miles of total length. Many days I encounter large pieces of farm machinery that straddle parts of both lanes and/or the shoulder, often requiring me to drive on the right shoulder or the left shoulder to get past, or follow at 9 mph for several miles. Then there’s the deer, dead, alive, moving and stationary. There are areas where the deer are streetsmart and they feed on the shoulder, with no risk of collision. Other places, they can be seen in the ditch and are at risk of rapidly entering the roadway.
There are live and dead raccoons and eagles feasting on bloated dead raccoon corpses. There are Amish buggies that travel on the shoulder but occasionally have to enter the traffic lanes. Today there was a little kid, maybe 9 years old, whipping donuts on the shoulder on a 4 wheeler. He crossed the white line right as I approached. Then there are the irritating people who pull up to their mailboxes to get the mail from the driver’s side window, facing oncoming traffic. Snowmobiles in the ditches, crossing the roads here and there. The beat goes on. Count me as skeptical that this technology proves reliable for my needs any time soon.
There are live and dead raccoons and eagles feasting on bloated dead raccoon corpses. There are Amish buggies that travel on the shoulder but occasionally have to enter the traffic lanes. Today there was a little kid, maybe 9 years old, whipping donuts on the shoulder on a 4 wheeler. He crossed the white line right as I approached. Then there are the irritating people who pull up to their mailboxes to get the mail from the driver’s side window, facing oncoming traffic. Snowmobiles in the ditches, crossing the roads here and there. The beat goes on. Count me as skeptical that this technology proves reliable for my needs any time soon.
According to the stereotypes I have learned about Asians, yes. Impressed by a couple inches.
Dammit, should have figured this would already be mentioned
Tesla gives ‘Full Self-Driving’ to a new crop of users, then takes it away...
Users reported sporadic glitches
Washington Post
Tesla is dialing back its Full Self-Driving software, CEO Elon Musk said Sunday, after discovering software bugs in the new batch of the software beta. The company had rolled out a new version of its driver-assistance software to an expanded group of users over the weekend, but Musk said that it proved problematic and that the company was working on fixes.
“Seeing some issues with (version) 10.3, so rolling back to 10.2 temporarily,” he wrote in a tweet. “Please note, this is to be expected with beta software. It is impossible to test all hardware configs in all conditions with internal (quality assurance), hence public beta.”
The update had already proven troublesome earlier in the weekend, as Tesla delayed its initial release Saturday morning because of what Musk wrote was “regression in some left turns at traffic lights” found by internal quality inspectors. But he said Sunday the company has proceeded with the rollout, noting that it leans on the public to gather more data on driving conditions and parameters.
Users reported sporadic issues including hard braking events, forward collision warnings and other system misfires that had not been present in previous versions.
It was the latest twist in a saga that has disrupted typical car industry practices and drawn the attention of safety advocates and regulators, who fear the consequences of Tesla foisting the largely untested software on the public.
Full Self-Driving is an expanded iteration of the software that Tesla calls Autopilot, which can navigate highways, summon and park cars, and conduct other maneuvers with an attentive driver behind the wheel. Full Self-Driving brings those capabilities to city streets, allowing the software to navigate Tesla cars through local roads and residential areas. Users must pay attention at all times,
and the software — despite its name — is not considered autonomous by industry or regulatory definitions.
Tesla, which had initially provided the Full Self-Driving beta to a group of about 2,000 users, has since expanded the program using a “safety score” beta that rates owners’ driving on a zero-to-100 scale. The first rollout to around 1,000 new users included those who scored 100 in the safety assessment, which rates driver on factors such as aggressive turning and hard braking.
This weekend’s rollout included those who had scored a 99.
Meanwhile, some users on Sunday reported losing Full Self-Driving entirely after Tesla dialed back the software beta. Reports abounded on social media of users losing their features entirely instead of receiving an older version as Tesla intended.
NHTSA, the country’s top auto safety regulator, has pressed for more information on the software and says it relies on the public to provide insight into how it works. Its chief counsel sent a letter to Tesla earlier this month decrying its use of nondisclosure agreements, for example, to prevent Full Self-Driving users from sharing information on the beta.
“Despite Tesla’s characterization of FSD as ‘beta’ it is capable of and is being used on public roads,” Ann Carlson, the NHTSA official, wrote. “Given that NHTSA relies on reports from consumers as an important source of information in evaluating potential safety defects, any agreement that may prevent or dissuade participants in the early access beta release program from reporting safety concerns to NHTSA is unacceptable.”
Musk has indicated users will not be bound by nondisclosure agreements going forward.
Users reported sporadic glitches
Washington Post
Tesla is dialing back its Full Self-Driving software, CEO Elon Musk said Sunday, after discovering software bugs in the new batch of the software beta. The company had rolled out a new version of its driver-assistance software to an expanded group of users over the weekend, but Musk said that it proved problematic and that the company was working on fixes.
“Seeing some issues with (version) 10.3, so rolling back to 10.2 temporarily,” he wrote in a tweet. “Please note, this is to be expected with beta software. It is impossible to test all hardware configs in all conditions with internal (quality assurance), hence public beta.”
The update had already proven troublesome earlier in the weekend, as Tesla delayed its initial release Saturday morning because of what Musk wrote was “regression in some left turns at traffic lights” found by internal quality inspectors. But he said Sunday the company has proceeded with the rollout, noting that it leans on the public to gather more data on driving conditions and parameters.
Users reported sporadic issues including hard braking events, forward collision warnings and other system misfires that had not been present in previous versions.
It was the latest twist in a saga that has disrupted typical car industry practices and drawn the attention of safety advocates and regulators, who fear the consequences of Tesla foisting the largely untested software on the public.
Full Self-Driving is an expanded iteration of the software that Tesla calls Autopilot, which can navigate highways, summon and park cars, and conduct other maneuvers with an attentive driver behind the wheel. Full Self-Driving brings those capabilities to city streets, allowing the software to navigate Tesla cars through local roads and residential areas. Users must pay attention at all times,
and the software — despite its name — is not considered autonomous by industry or regulatory definitions.
Tesla, which had initially provided the Full Self-Driving beta to a group of about 2,000 users, has since expanded the program using a “safety score” beta that rates owners’ driving on a zero-to-100 scale. The first rollout to around 1,000 new users included those who scored 100 in the safety assessment, which rates driver on factors such as aggressive turning and hard braking.
This weekend’s rollout included those who had scored a 99.
Meanwhile, some users on Sunday reported losing Full Self-Driving entirely after Tesla dialed back the software beta. Reports abounded on social media of users losing their features entirely instead of receiving an older version as Tesla intended.
NHTSA, the country’s top auto safety regulator, has pressed for more information on the software and says it relies on the public to provide insight into how it works. Its chief counsel sent a letter to Tesla earlier this month decrying its use of nondisclosure agreements, for example, to prevent Full Self-Driving users from sharing information on the beta.
“Despite Tesla’s characterization of FSD as ‘beta’ it is capable of and is being used on public roads,” Ann Carlson, the NHTSA official, wrote. “Given that NHTSA relies on reports from consumers as an important source of information in evaluating potential safety defects, any agreement that may prevent or dissuade participants in the early access beta release program from reporting safety concerns to NHTSA is unacceptable.”
Musk has indicated users will not be bound by nondisclosure agreements going forward.
More time for Pepsi with WWJD, I guess.
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Lol, I assume you never fly on commercial planes then? If you do, I got some bad news for ya……
Do the planes land themselves? No, they don’t. While it is true commercial planes can land itself using a program called “autoland”, fewer then 1% of flights do. The other 99% are landed manually. I rarely fly, so…..
An airplane on autopilot (being closely monitored by 2 pilots) flying in mostly empty airspace is a lot different than driving a car along crowded city streets and down busy highways surrounded by all types of drunks, idiots and knuckleheads.
Try again.
Statistics will prove you wrong, a self driving car will be much less likely to get in an accident. And my point stands on the planes, they basically fly themselves. Everyone knows the one thing a pilot still does is land, so I will not need to try again.
Humans are the number one cause of automobile accidents. Some of these people driving, should probably not be driving.
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