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Huge 14 pt swing in 1st half was a killer for the Hawks

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Seems like most writers are focusing on the INT late in the game. To me, the game was lost in the 1st half.

HUGE 14 POINT SWING IN THE 1ST HALF COST IOWA THE GAME


7 EASY POINTS LOST:

At 12:10 mark of 2nd Quarter, Iowa up 14-7. Iowa with ball on PSU 48 yd line, it's 3rd and 1. Beautiful fake hand off by Stanley. Nate misses a wide open TJ Hockenson over the middle (open by 20 yds) for an easy TD. The drive instead stalls and Iowa punts with 10:38 to go in the 2nd qtr. Iowa should have been up 21-7.


7 EASY POINTS GIVEN UP:

At 7:04 mark of 2nd Quarter, Iowa up 14-7, Iowa ball on own 32 yd line; its 2nd and 9. Nate's pass to the left side intended for Easley is way off, picked off & returned to the Iowa 3 yd line. PSU quickly scores a TD with 6:45 to go in the 2nd qtr. Iowa, again, should have been up 21-7. INSTEAD, the game is TIED at 14.
 
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You are exactly right, OP. Stanley just killed his team on Saturday, and the facts make that clear. He threw 31 incompletions--including two crushing INTs--in 49 attempts. Iowa should have had the game under total control in the first half and just been playing to establish the final score over the final 30 minutes. Just incredible what this Iowa team, especially the QB, has done this year to prevent an undefeated season. No one has beaten Iowa yet, but the Hawkeyes have beaten themselves twice, and that's why this is so tough to take.
 
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aristotleiowa said:
You are exactly right, OP. Stanley just killed his team on Saturday, and the facts make that clear. He threw 31 incompletions--including two crushing INTs--in 49 attempts. Iowa should have had the game under total control in the first half and just been playing to establish the final score over the final 30 minutes. Just incredible what this Iowa team, especially the QB, has done this year to prevent an undefeated season. No one has beaten Iowa yet, but the Hawkeyes have beaten themselves twice, and that's why this is so tough to take.
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Missing TJ on that easy throw for a TD....you just can't miss that throw. TJ was so wide open you don't even have to lead him, so why risk an overthrow?

It was a beautiful play. just ended horribly.

It is crazy how close Iowa is to being 8-0
 
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Iowa has had a ton of mental errors and dumb plays this year that have cost them. The cleanest game they have played is Maryland but even there the offense made some mistakes. If they cut down on their dumb mistakes and had an accurate, all conference type QB they would be undefeated and heading to a showdown with Michigan.
 
David1979 said:
Iowa has had a ton of mental errors and dumb plays this year that have cost them. The cleanest game they have played is Maryland but even there the offense made some mistakes. If they cut down on their dumb mistakes and had an accurate, all conference type QB they would be undefeated and heading to a showdown with Michigan.
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Nate is so up and down; he was great over a 4 game stretch (14 TDs) and then has a stinker
 
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Franisdaman said:
Nate is so up and down; he was great over a 4 game stretch (14 TDs) and then has a stinker
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penn st figured out how to blitz and rattle him. there are way around this. roll out, bootleg, stuff like this. adjust o-line maybe. tell nate to tuck and run. the option. nate isn't very mobile so far
 
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Other than vs Indiana Nate has just not been right. Accuracy has been very shaky, even on many of the completions the ball is not thrown in a great spot. I have noticed he is often times late to see/deliver the ball to the open guy. Tight end open in the end zone vs Maryland and he does not throw is a perfect example. He will roll out and the guy is open now but he waits and then makes a crowded throw or does not even throw. He has struggled reading/feeling back side pressure. And then there are the what the heck moments where he has been throwing terrible picks due to horrid choices and sometimes throws that end up in another area code. His inability to take the many free rush yards he is often presented with drives me nuts too.
 
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MVPFAN said:
Other than vs Indiana Nate has just not been right. Accuracy has been very shaky, even on many of the completions the ball is not thrown in a great spot. I have noticed he is often times late to see/deliver the ball to the open guy. Tight end open in the end zone vs Maryland and he does not throw is a perfect example. He will roll out and the guy is open now but he waits and then makes a crowded throw or does not even throw. He has struggled reading/feeling back side pressure. And then there are the what the heck moments where he has been throwing terrible picks due to horrid choices and sometimes throws that end up in another area code. His inability to take the many free rush yards he is often presented with drives me nuts too.
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and accuracy is everything in the NFL; that's why I am surprised he is so highly ranked among NFL draft eligibility QBs
 
How about the blocked punt that refused to stop rolling and appeared to actually gain speed as it went out the back of the endzone. 5 more points off the board.
 
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ottumwan in tx said:
penn st figured out how to blitz and rattle him. there are way around this. roll out, bootleg, stuff like this. adjust o-line maybe. tell nate to tuck and run. the option. nate isn't very mobile so far
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I agree, no screen passes either. It all starts under center. Maybe Stanley needs to let his hair down a little, young man seems too uptight.
 
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Franisdaman said:
Seems like most writers are focusing on the INT late in the game. To me, the game was lost in the 1st half.

HUGE 14 POINT SWING IN THE 1ST HALF COST IOWA THE GAME


7 EASY POINTS LOST:

At 12:10 mark of 2nd Quarter, Iowa up 14-7. Iowa with ball on PSU 48 yd line, it's 3rd and 1. Beautiful fake hand off by Stanley. Nate misses a wide open TJ Hockenson over the middle (open by 20 yds) for an easy TD. The drive instead stalls and Iowa punts with 10:38 to go in the 2nd qtr. Iowa should have been up 21-7.


7 EASY POINTS GIVEN UP:

At 7:04 mark of 2nd Quarter, Iowa up 14-7, Iowa ball on own 32 yd line; its 2nd and 9. Nate's pass to the left side intended for Easley is way off, picked off & returned to the Iowa 3 yd line. PSU quickly scores a TD with 6:45 to go in the 2nd qtr. Iowa, again, should have been up 21-7. INSTEAD, the game is TIED at 14.
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Penn State gifted Iowa 4 free points in the first quarter. These were points that were the result of unforced errors on Penn State not because some Iowa kid made a great play. Also, on Iowa's first FG drive in the 1st quarter, their WR fumbles the ball after a big gain and there were two PSU guys right there to pounce on the ball yet somehow the Iowa guy ends up with it(and gains an extra 5 yards in the process). 9 times out of 10, the defense would have recovered that fumble so in my view, Iowa got a lucky 3 points on that drive. In fact, Iowa fumbled the ball 3 times in that game and got the ball back everytime. You don't see that too often.

This is on top of the fact that PSU fumbled the ball inside the 10 yard line(again, as the result of an unforced error on themselves not because an Iowa defensive player made some sort of great play). The their was McSorley's pick 6.
 
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kijana said:
Penn State gifted Iowa 4 free points in the first quarter. These were points that were the result of unforced errors on Penn State not because some Iowa kid made a great play. Also, on Iowa's first FG drive in the 1st quarter, their WR fumbles the ball after a big gain and there were two PSU guys right there to pounce on the ball yet somehow the Iowa guy ends up with it(and gains an extra 5 yards in the process). 9 times out of 10, the defense would have recovered that fumble so in my view, Iowa got a lucky 3 points on that drive. In fact, Iowa fumbled the ball 3 times in that game and got the ball back everytime. You don't see that too often.

This is on top of the fact that PSU fumbled the ball inside the 10 yard line(again, as the result of an unforced error on themselves not because an Iowa defensive player made some sort of great play). The their was McSorley's pick 6.
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Yeah, PSU did not play very well, either.

Iowa still had to get there to block the punt and get those 2 points.

And dang, people like to complain about our offense, but when you watch the replay, Brian Griese even said what a beautiful play it was and it led to TJ being wide open. You simply have to make that play. Would have been 21-7, and Iowa would have been in complete control of the game.
 
Change ONE play and Iowa wins (hit the wide open Hockenson on the third and one). That's it.

Change four plays and it's a virtual blowout: (1) Hit the wide open Hockenson; (2) Punt instead of trick play at end of half; (3) Nate doesn't throw INT No. 1 to set up an easy PSU TD; (4) Nate doesn't throw the INT on first and goal from the three. Iowa wins about 38-20 but for those four plays, ALL of which were totally under Iowa's control. PSU had almost nothing to do with any of them. Which, like the Wisconsin game, is why this season has been so frustrating. It's been a good season and still could be a very good season, but were it not for Iowa's own mistakes, it could have been a season for the ages.
 
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aristotleiowa said:
Change ONE play and Iowa wins (hit the wide open Hockenson on the third and one). That's it.

Change four plays and it's a virtual blowout: (1) Hit the wide open Hockenson; (2) Punt instead of trick play at end of half; (3) Nate doesn't throw INT No. 1 to set up an easy PSU TD; (4) Nate doesn't throw the INT on first and goal from the three. Iowa wins about 38-20 but for those four plays, ALL of which were totally under Iowa's control. PSU had almost nothing to do with any of them. Which, like the Wisconsin game, is why this season has been so frustrating. It's been a good season and still could be a very good season, but were it not for Iowa's own mistakes, it could have been a season for the ages.
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And, PSU fans can sit here and say the same thing. I can easily come up with 5-6 plays that if they did not happen, then PSU would have scored a comfortable victory.
 
kijana said:
And, PSU fans can sit here and say the same thing. I can easily come up with 5-6 plays that if they did not happen, then PSU would have scored a comfortable victory.
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Of course, but this is an Iowa board after Iowa LOST. It's a simple discussion, stop being a douche.
 
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Plus, PSU specializes in dumb mistakes & lack of discipline/execution.

We're used to playing a LOT cleaner.

D-Fergy whiffing his block on 3rd & goal from the 3 when Hock was 8 yards open in the EZ cost us 4 pts...
 
Crafty Beaver said:
Plus, PSU specializes in dumb mistakes & lack of discipline/execution.

We're used to playing a LOT cleaner.

D-Fergy whiffing his block on 3rd & goal from the 3 when Hock was 8 yards open in the EZ cost us 4 pts...
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PSU is used to scoring 40+ pts per game and not having to worry about clock management or ass biting penalties. This PSU team is not good enough to be stupid and win.......they have no coach
 
rationalPSUfan said:
PSU is used to scoring 40+ pts per game and not having to worry about clock management or ass biting penalties. This PSU team is not good enough to be stupid and win.......they have no coach
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what's the PSU's thoughts on Franklin? He recruits well but....? Man, losing the way they did this year to OSU and Michigan State has to make the fan base wonder "what if?"
 
fizzyskittles said:
He’s not being a douche , he’s just pointing out how silly such speculation is. It’s grade school level analysis.
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He's absolutely, 100%, trying to be a douche. Iowa had two critical uncharacteristic mistakes (overthrow and pick when they were confused) that cost them 14 points, and PSU did nothing to cause them. This doesn't include the idiotic end of half fake for another 3, or Stanley's other INT that he threw right to the DB. We're talking top shelf moronic plays. These weren't a missed tackle, dropped pass, penalty type play. These are similar to if Mcsorley would have tripped running through that gaping hole for his 70 yard TD run. Iowa's pick 6 was a great play by Hooker, I'm not sure if you can say that was even a bad throw by Mcsorley. It was going to hit the WR in the hands if Hooker hand't broke on the ball. Yes, these would include the two safeties we received, but that was only 4 points. If you can't/won't see the difference between these types of plays, then we can't help you and you're being a douche.
 
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Oh lord, any PSU fan could say the same thing. You discount your mistake as uncharacteristic but assume the other guy made an error because he's jus
t not as good. Tom Brady won like five Super bowls on basically one play. He lsot 3 on one play. Flip one play and he's 0-8 to 8-0. All that counts in the end is the final score
 
Jizzer said:
He's absolutely, 100%, trying to be a douche. Iowa had two critical uncharacteristic mistakes (overthrow and pick when they were confused) that cost them 14 points, and PSU did nothing to cause them. This doesn't include the idiotic end of half fake for another 3, or Stanley's other INT that he threw right to the DB. We're talking top shelf moronic plays. These weren't a missed tackle, dropped pass, penalty type play. These are similar to if Mcsorley would have tripped running through that gaping hole for his 70 yard TD run. Iowa's pick 6 was a great play by Hooker, I'm not sure if you can say that was even a bad throw by Mcsorley. It was going to hit the WR in the hands if Hooker hand't broke on the ball. Yes, these would include the two safeties we received, but that was only 4 points. If you can't/won't see the difference between these types of plays, then we can't help you and you're being a douche.
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I'll add that I think you're basically an idiot.
 
aristotleiowa said:
You are exactly right, OP. Stanley just killed his team on Saturday, and the facts make that clear. He threw 31 incompletions--including two crushing INTs--in 49 attempts. Iowa should have had the game under total control in the first half and just been playing to establish the final score over the final 30 minutes. Just incredible what this Iowa team, especially the QB, has done this year to prevent an undefeated season. No one has beaten Iowa yet, but the Hawkeyes have beaten themselves twice, and that's why this is so tough to take.
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Ya, didnt wisconsin go on a 10 play 88 yard drive to take da lead 21-17 in da 4th, and iowa D couldnt stop them? Iowa likely goes 9-3 or 8-4, yet they were da better team in all their losses? And didnt penn state stop iowa this year, and score on them last year to ice da game. Ya see son, da better team is da one that makes plays when da game is in da balance. :)
 
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WhoaNellieCy said:
Ya, didnt wisconsin go on a 10 play 88 yard drive to take da lead 21-17 in da 4th, and iowa D couldnt stop them? Iowa likely goes 9-3 or 8-4, yet they were da better team in all their losses? And didnt penn state stop iowa this year, and score on them last year to ice da game. Ya see son, da better team is da one that makes plays when da game is in da balance. :)
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You lost to TCU!
 
aristotleiowa said:
You are exactly right, OP. Stanley just killed his team on Saturday, and the facts make that clear. He threw 31 incompletions--including two crushing INTs--in 49 attempts. Iowa should have had the game under total control in the first half and just been playing to establish the final score over the final 30 minutes. Just incredible what this Iowa team, especially the QB, has done this year to prevent an undefeated season. No one has beaten Iowa yet, but the Hawkeyes have beaten themselves twice, and that's why this is so tough to take.
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Well, you win and lose as a team. Not sure how the QB is largely to blame for the Wisconsin loss. You can't turn it over twice on punts (once at your own 10-yard line) and beat good teams.

I'm sure Iowa State fans would say they gave away the game against the Hawks by abandoning the running game and not throwing it to Butler. Every losing team (if the game is semi-close) will lament the missed opportunities they had.

I do agree that Iowa had a golden, golden opportunity to be up at minimum by 14 points at halftime of the Penn State game. Penn State survived two horrendous mishaps on punts by only giving up 4 points. If the blocked punt just stops in the end zone instead of rolling out the end, that's a TD. Same with the snap over the punter's head. There's still a lot to play for.
 
fizzyskittles said:
Oh lord, any PSU fan could say the same thing. You discount your mistake as uncharacteristic but assume the other guy made an error because he's jus
t not as good. Tom Brady won like five Super bowls on basically one play. He lsot 3 on one play. Flip one play and he's 0-8 to 8-0. All that counts in the end is the final score
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Jesus, you suck at this. Usually when trolls come all the way to visit, they are halfway intelligent, see Whoa above.
 
DodgerHawki said:
Well, you win and lose as a team. Not sure how the QB is largely to blame for the Wisconsin loss. You can't turn it over twice on punts (once at your own 10-yard line) and beat good teams.

I'm sure Iowa State fans would say they gave away the game against the Hawks by abandoning the running game and not throwing it to Butler. Every losing team (if the game is semi-close) will lament the missed opportunities they had.

I do agree that Iowa had a golden, golden opportunity to be up at minimum by 14 points at halftime of the Penn State game. Penn State survived two horrendous mishaps on punts by only giving up 4 points. If the blocked punt just stops in the end zone instead of rolling out the end, that's a TD. Same with the snap over the punter's head. There's still a lot to play for.
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did You watch the Wisconsin game ? Stanley was 2-9 in crunch time and missed several easy throws and open receivers in the 3 qts that preceded his choke job in the 4th QT. I wish people would quit protecting bad QB play that has cost Iowa a B1G West title . Iowa would be undefeated with a decent accurate QB .
 
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Dick Rambone said:
did You watch the Wisconsin game ? Stanley was 2-9 in crunch time and missed several easy throws and open receivers in the 3 qts that preceded his choke job in the 4th QT. I wish people would quit protecting bad QB play that has cost Iowa a B1G West title . Iowa would be undefeated with a decent accurate QB .
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Dude I'm not protecting anyone. Stanley averaged over 10 yards per pass attempt against Wisconsin. Those are great numbers. In the fourth quarter, he had one bad pass above Hockenson which ended up in Iowa punting. Wisconsin punted back, and Iowa got a first down on the third-down pass to Easley. The rest of the throws at the end were people not open, tipped/dropped ball (on the INT).

Iowa lost that game by fumbling 2 punts and a brain-fart call on 4th and 1 on the first drive of the game by running a QB sneak instead of throwing the ball to Fant covered 1-1 by a safety.
 
Jizzer said:
He's absolutely, 100%, trying to be a douche. Iowa had two critical uncharacteristic mistakes (overthrow and pick when they were confused) that cost them 14 points, and PSU did nothing to cause them. This doesn't include the idiotic end of half fake for another 3, or Stanley's other INT that he threw right to the DB. We're talking top shelf moronic plays. These weren't a missed tackle, dropped pass, penalty type play. These are similar to if Mcsorley would have tripped running through that gaping hole for his 70 yard TD run. Iowa's pick 6 was a great play by Hooker, I'm not sure if you can say that was even a bad throw by Mcsorley. It was going to hit the WR in the hands if Hooker hand't broke on the ball. Yes, these would include the two safeties we received, but that was only 4 points. If you can't/won't see the difference between these types of plays, then we can't help you and you're being a douche.
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Iowa’s pick six was by Geno Stone, not Hooker.
 
Special teams cost us the Wisconsin game and the offense cost us the Penn State game. Let's hope the defense doesn't feel the need to take a turn.
 
Jizzer said:
Jesus, you suck at this. Usually when trolls come all the way to visit, they are halfway intelligent, see Whoa above.
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Actually what I said was pretty rational . Your idiotic fan boy ramblings are not . It comes down to making plays. Iowa didn’t . They lost. Again.
It doesn’t hold that they’re somehow better than the team they lost to , again.
 
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