I don't fish but this makes me sad

[Tenacious E]

There are places you can go with pristine waters but for many people in many places, you are damaging yourself by eating the fish you catch.

Study suggests US freshwater fish highly contaminated with ‘forever chemicals’

Eating just one serving of freshwater fish each year could have the same effect as drinking water heavily polluted with “forever chemicals” for an entire month, a new study finds. The equivalent monthlong amount of water would be contaminated at levels 2,400 times greater than what’s recommended...

www.yahoo.com

 

[hawkeyeandy]

Gee, thanks! I eat Lake Erie walleye three or four times a year. Thought that was OK, but no more!

 

[tumorboy]

Eventually everything is going to have to be made by a replicator.

 

[BlueRidgeHawk]

Humans are a virus of the 🌎

 

[Tenacious E]

Gee, thanks! I eat Lake Erie walleye three or four times a year. Thought that was OK, but no more!

It is early and my sarcasm meter is not yet fully fueled with caffeine, but assuming that was sarcasm, the article did say that that while the great lakes are worse: "The median level of total targeted PFAS in fish from rivers and streams was 9,500 nanograms per kilogram, while the median in the Great Lakes was 11,800 nanograms per kilogram, according to the study." Also, the contamination is in other lakes and ponds: "Contamination in the Great Lakes, as well as in other lakes and ponds, may be comparatively greater than the PFAS pollution in rivers and streams because these basins don’t cycle as frequently, according to Andrews." So for many there really is no escaping it. For others, enjoy fly fishing in some idyllic babbling brook in Montana.

 

[DeangeloVickers]

Yawn. The youngest brought home a dozen bluegills and crappie from macbride, frying em up tonight. Can't wait.

 

[Formerly Rockymtnole]

I never eat freshwater fish. Catch and release only.

 

[Tenacious E]

I never eat freshwater fish. Catch and release only.

I seem to recall several posters like @DooBi who catch and eat fish all of the time.

 

[DooBi]

I seem to recall several posters like @DooBi who catch and eat fish all of the time.

Meh, I'll take my chances. Been eating it for over 40 years.

 

[fsu1jreed]

Humans are a virus of the 🌎

Fvcking facts

 

[SeaPA]

The area around my lakehouse was citrus groves all of my life, until a couple of years ago; I'm sure the lake has had an abundance of fertilizer & chemical runoff through the years. I usually catch & release, but once or twice a year will cook some crappie because it is delicious. Something's gonna kill me, may as well be something tasty.

 

[Joes Place]

It is early and my sarcasm meter is not yet fully fueled with caffeine, but assuming that was sarcasm, the article did say that that while the great lakes are worse: "The median level of total targeted PFAS in fish from rivers and streams was 9,500 nanograms per kilogram, while the median in the Great Lakes was 11,800 nanograms per kilogram, according to the study." Also, the contamination is in other lakes and ponds: "Contamination in the Great Lakes, as well as in other lakes and ponds, may be comparatively greater than the PFAS pollution in rivers and streams because these basins don’t cycle as frequently, according to Andrews." So for many there really is no escaping it. For others, enjoy fly fishing in some idyllic babbling brook in Montana.

Actually, you won't escape them there, either.

PFAs chemicals are used all over the skiiing/hiking/outdoors industries, and they end up in the watersheds, everywhere. They have also been used in firefighting chemicals in the past (not sure if still a main component or not).

Cities/Counties with PFOA/PFOS Contamination in Tap Water

Is your city or county on this list?

www.aquasana.com

Montana don't look so good...

 

[BlueRidgeHawk]

Explains all this cancer

 

[Joes Place]

Explains all this cancer

MAGA-Land:

Vaccines = Bad!!!
PFAs = Extra Tasty!!!

 

[BlueRidgeHawk]

MAGA-Land:

Vaccines = Bad!!!
PFAs = Extra Tasty!!!

That is the ultimate owning of the Libs?

 

[Joes Place]

That is the ultimate owning of the Libs?

ANYTHING "the libs" and scientists say HAS TO be bad, yo.

If scientists say it's bad for you, or doesn't work, it has to be a konspiracee!!!!

 

[Tenacious E]

Actually, you won't escape them there, either.

PFAs chemicals are used all over the skiiing/hiking/outdoors industries, and they end up in the watersheds, everywhere. They have also been used in firefighting chemicals in the past (not sure if still a main component or not).

Cities/Counties with PFOA/PFOS Contamination in Tap Water

Is your city or county on this list?

www.aquasana.com

Montana don't look so good...

Michigan...

 

[blhawk]

Meh, I had one of the Iowa anglers on this board inform me that it was just fine not too long ago. Bon Appétit I guess

 

[blhawk]

Meh, I'll take my chances. Been eating it for over 40 years.

Not surprised

 

[Formerly Rockymtnole]

Actually, you won't escape them there, either.

PFAs chemicals are used all over the skiiing/hiking/outdoors industries, and they end up in the watersheds, everywhere. They have also been used in firefighting chemicals in the past (not sure if still a main component or not).

Cities/Counties with PFOA/PFOS Contamination in Tap Water

Is your city or county on this list?

www.aquasana.com

Montana don't look so good...

Not to mention that clear babbling brook is probably full of heavy metals from mining runoff…

 

[HarrisAOC24]

Fvcking facts

 

[torbee]

I seem to recall several posters like @DooBi who catch and eat fish all of the time.

Hmm, maybe a correlation between eating fish with heavy metals in them and horrendously ignorant political takes . . .

Clearly more studies need to be done!

 

[Tenacious E]

Hmm, maybe a correlation between eating fish with heavy metals in them and horrendously ignorant political takes . . .

Clearly more studies need to be done!

Aren't you big on fishing and frying up some crappie?

 

[torbee]

Aren't you big on fishing and frying up some crappie?

I fish a ton, but only eat them about once or twice a year. Not because I'm super worried about contamination, just too lazy to clean them, lol.

 

[Tenacious E]

I fish a ton, but only eat them about once or twice a year. Not because I'm super worried about contamination, just too lazy to clean them, lol.

Just think how smart you'd be if you didn't eat them twice a year. It's like I joke about how smart I would be if I had never played football and had all those collisions at linebacker.

 

[NotTylerJ76]

I eat freshwater fish 2-3x a week, I’m going to assume it’s healthier that fast food or any processed junk.

I’ll take my chances.

 

[torbee]

I eat freshwater fish 2-3x a week, I’m going to assume it’s healthier that fast food or any processed junk.

I’ll take my chances.

Another thing I like about this article is it proves me right about what I said regarding rivers and streams compared to lakes.

In a previous thread when I said that fish out of the Mississippi or its tributaries were less likely to contain contamination than those out of inland lakes in, say Minnesota or Wisconsin or Michigan, and that an Iowa DNR guy confirmed it, I was roundly told I was full of it by several posters on this board.

WELL REAP IT! As usual, Torbee knows best.

Contamination in the Great Lakes, as well as in other lakes and ponds, may be comparatively greater than the PFAS pollution in rivers and streams because these basins don’t cycle as frequently, according to Andrews.

“The water doesn’t get flushed out as quickly,” he said.

It's also good to note that the problem appears to be decreasing, at least in rivers and streams if not lakes:

He also recognized that with the industrial phaseout of PFOS production, the pollution “levels in rivers and streams do seem to be decreasing, which is important.”

“At the same time, the levels are still so high that any fish consumption likely impacts serum levels,” Andrews said. “But they are moving in the right direction, which I think is some good news, at least in terms of the rivers and streams.”

 

[Tenacious E]

Another thing I like about this article is it proves me right about what I said regarding rivers and streams compared to lakes.

In a previous thread when I said that fish out of the Mississippi or its tributaries were less likely to contain contamination than those out of inland lakes in, say Minnesota or Wisconsin or Michigan, and that an Iowa DNR guy confirmed it, I was roundly told I was full of it by several posters on this board.

WELL REAP IT! As usual, Torbee knows best.

Contamination in the Great Lakes, as well as in other lakes and ponds, may be comparatively greater than the PFAS pollution in rivers and streams because these basins don’t cycle as frequently, according to Andrews.

“The water doesn’t get flushed out as quickly,” he said.

It's also good to note that the problem appears to be decreasing, at least in rivers and streams if not lakes:

He also recognized that with the industrial phaseout of PFOS production, the pollution “levels in rivers and streams do seem to be decreasing, which is important.”

“At the same time, the levels are still so high that any fish consumption likely impacts serum levels,” Andrews said. “But they are moving in the right direction, which I think is some good news, at least in terms of the rivers and streams.”

I don't think you can extrapolate those general statements to infer that Mississippi fish in particular are good clean eating.

 

[torbee]

I don't think you can extrapolate those general statements to infer that Mississippi fish in particular are good clean eating.

I am telling you, an Iowa DNR fisheries biologist said this to me, and even used the same phrase about the basin "cycling" much faster than inland lakes and ponds. He was speaking specifically of the Upper Mississippi river system.

I remember this conversation vividly as it seemed nuts to me. How could the Mississippi with its factories etc. along its banks have fewer heavy metals than those pretty, clear blue lakes I fished in Wisconsin? Well, it's because those are much more confined systems and this type of PFAS situation requires build up over time at lower levels of the food chain before building up in the species higher up the food chain.

Choose to believe or disbelieve, but I go with the trained scientist.

 

[Rifler]

Wake up people, this stuff is everywhere,.. If you live, eat and breathe on this planet you're being exposed.

 

[DooBi]

Another thing I like about this article is it proves me right about what I said regarding rivers and streams compared to lakes.

In a previous thread when I said that fish out of the Mississippi or its tributaries were less likely to contain contamination than those out of inland lakes in, say Minnesota or Wisconsin or Michigan, and that an Iowa DNR guy confirmed it, I was roundly told I was full of it by several posters on this board.

WELL REAP IT! As usual, Torbee knows best.

Contamination in the Great Lakes, as well as in other lakes and ponds, may be comparatively greater than the PFAS pollution in rivers and streams because these basins don’t cycle as frequently, according to Andrews.

“The water doesn’t get flushed out as quickly,” he said.

It's also good to note that the problem appears to be decreasing, at least in rivers and streams if not lakes:

He also recognized that with the industrial phaseout of PFOS production, the pollution “levels in rivers and streams do seem to be decreasing, which is important.”

“At the same time, the levels are still so high that any fish consumption likely impacts serum levels,” Andrews said. “But they are moving in the right direction, which I think is some good news, at least in terms of the rivers and streams.”

You said that moving water is cleaner than standing water? You don't say!!! Lol

 

[InsaneHawkJJP]

Humans are a virus of the 🌎

I agree to a point. There are still a few civilizations that actually respect and live with nature. Of course “modern” civilizations look down on them and try to change them, or completely wipe them out if they refuse to change.

 

[torbee]

You said that moving water is cleaner than standing water? You don't say!!! Lol

I didn't think it was hard to ascertain, but if I could find that thread again you'd be amazed at the number of people saying that was dead wrong and insisting lake and pond fish from the upper Midwest are safer to eat.

 

[General Tso]

You can't convince me that eating catfish pulled from the Mississippi is bad for your health

 

[Moral]

You can't convince me that eating catfish pulled from the Mississippi is bad for your health

 

[torbee]

That dude has X-Ray vision now.

 

[DooBi]

I didn't think it was hard to ascertain, but if I could find that thread again you'd be amazed at the number of people saying that was dead wrong and insisting lake and pond fish from the upper Midwest are safer to eat.

I could tell you that you are right just from the taste. River fish are always a cleaner tastier meat imo.

 

[torbee]

I could tell you that you are right just from the taste. River fish are always a cleaner tastier meat imo.

It is amazing to me how many people assume the Mississippi is massively polluted because of its brown color.

North of St. Louis, the river is actually fairly clean, certainly much better than it was in the 1960s and 70s. And the farther north you go, the better it is.

 

[JupiterHawk]

 

[Tenacious E]

It is amazing to me how many people assume the Mississippi is massively polluted because of its brown color.

North of St. Louis, the river is actually fairly clean, certainly much better than it was in the 1960s and 70s. And the farther north you go, the better it is.

I’ve been to some parties back in high school at the lock and dam and that shit was stanky during the summer.