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I feel we’re not talking enough about the “separate but equal” reference by Lauren Boebert

Wow, you and others on the left picks out 3 words in her speech that you found offensive. You're like race baiting blood hounds looking for any scent you can tie to racism. Okay, what about the rest of her speech? Do you believe election or any other laws for that matter should be ignored?

Lastly, don't talk to us about being uneducated, the left is proposing Marxist ideals even though they have been proven to be evil and complete failures for the past 100 years. Who refuses to learn from history?

In a speech where she is lecturing fellow congressman on constitutional law, the idea that she doesn’t even know wtf Separate But Equal means is breathtakingly stupid and ironic.

If she had uttered “Elvis is alive” we would be forgiven for zeroing in on those three words, btw.
 
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I haven't watched the moron BUT in the interest of fairness...Is she possibly referring to US vs. Alverez when the phrase was used to clarify that each branch was separate but equal?
 
I haven't watched the moron BUT in the interest of fairness...Is she possibly referring to US vs. Alverez when the phrase was used to clarify that each branch was separate but equal?

The odds that she has ever heard of that case is almost zero. She was trying to deny a state it’s right to participate in the electoral college, so I can’t imagine how you can make a connection.

She just has no idea what the phrase means, I think it’s that simple.
 
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I haven't watched the moron BUT in the interest of fairness...Is she possibly referring to US vs. Alverez when the phrase was used to clarify that each branch was separate but equal?
Jim - I watched it and I think you are correct. She is referring to separate but equal branches of government. She has been horribly manipulated into believing all of the Q BS and she's a terrible speaker, but my friends on the left are calling out the phrase incorrectly here.
 
Jim - I watched it and I think you are correct. She is referring to separate but equal branches of government. She has been horribly manipulated into believing all of the Q BS and she's a terrible speaker, but my friends on the left are calling out the phrase incorrectly here.

There is no context in her speech where that makes sense. Congress and the state of Arizona are not separate but equal branches of government.
 
There is no context in her speech where that makes sense. Congress and the state of Arizona are not separate but equal branches of government.
Yes there is. She clearly is thinking that the judicial branch over ruled the legislative branch, or something similar to that. I'm not saying she is correct or that the facts support that opinion. She goes on to talk about ignoring laws, etc. That's the context that supports it. Please quit framing it incorrectly, there is plenty else wrong to jump on. Plus, I feel really dirty having to do something that probably looks like I'm defending her.
 
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Yes there is. She clearly is thinking that the judicial branch over ruled the legislative branch, or something similar to that. I'm not saying she is correct or that the facts support that opinion. She goes on to talk about ignoring laws, etc. That's the context that supports it. Please quit framing it incorrectly, there is plenty else wrong to jump on. Plus, I feel really dirty having to do something that probably looks like I'm defending her.
So if “co-equal” means none of the branches have duties to perform if they disagree with each other, what is the function of government?
What is her grievance? That states can’t abridge voting rules if the legislature decides not to make a decision on them...even in times of an emergency? What methodology does the public have to exercise a constitutional right if one part of the government fails to move to allow all its citizens to exercise that right? How much safety does a citizen have to risk to exercise a basic right? Lord knows there are numerous examples of localalieies making voting as inconvenient as possible..is that to be condoned? Or should voting be made easy, with reasonable safeguards in place?
 
So if “co-equal” means none of the branches have duties to perform if they disagree with each other, what is the function of government?
What is her grievance? That states can’t abridge voting rules if the legislature decides not to make a decision on them...even in times of an emergency? What methodology does the public have to exercise a constitutional right if one part of the government fails to move to allow all its citizens to exercise that right? How much safety does a citizen have to risk to exercise a basic right? Lord knows there are numerous examples of localalieies making voting as inconvenient as possible..is that to be condoned? Or should voting be made easy, with reasonable safeguards in place?
Again, I'm not arguing that she is correct. I'm arguing that she was using the phrase as it relates to race.
 
Yes there is. She clearly is thinking that the judicial branch over ruled the legislative branch, or something similar to that. I'm not saying she is correct or that the facts support that opinion. She goes on to talk about ignoring laws, etc. That's the context that supports it. Please quit framing it incorrectly, there is plenty else wrong to jump on. Plus, I feel really dirty having to do something that probably looks like I'm defending her.
Gotta agree...and this discussion forced my to listen to that tripe so I'm not happy...that she does seem to be referring - awkwardly - to the separate but equal branches of govt. I'm not sure, however, what point she was trying to make with the reference.

AND WHY IS SHE SHOUTING???
 
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abby...the "racebaiting" done here was by Bobert...and the the election laws that were disregarded were done so mostly by GOP state legislatures, not Dems. Lastly, the "uneducated" here are you and yours....WHAT are the Dems advocating that are "Marxist" ideas? Just because that is the word you uneducated choose to use to describe them, does NOT mean they are so.
Here are just a few examples of the Marxist ideas the dems are embracing, stifling free speech, trying to change election laws to make it less likely they will ever lose again, tax rates so high we work for the goverment and not ourselves, creating "truth" censors to make sure only the "proper" ideas and stories are told. (The Dems version of Pravda) dividing the country into groups to make sure national unity is very difficult to achieve, trying to erase or change history to fit their narrative. Need more? Katie Couric even suggested Repubs needed to be "re-educated" not kidding.
 
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Here's what I found with a quick google:

Marxists believe that if the working class makes itself the ruling class, and destroys the basis for class society (private property, or what Marx called "Bourgeois Property"), there will be a "classless society." In a Marxist society, no social classes are in conflict, and there is no government anymore.
 
Here's what I found with a quick google:

Marxists believe that if the working class makes itself the ruling class, and destroys the basis for class society (private property, or what Marx called "Bourgeois Property"), there will be a "classless society." In a Marxist society, no social classes are in conflict, and there is no government anymore.
The whole no gov't seems like a GOP dream doesn't it?
 
Here are just a few examples of the Marxist ideas the dems are embracing, stifling free speech, trying to change election laws to make it less likely they will ever lose again, tax rates so high we work for the goverment and not ourselves, creating "truth" censors to make sure only the "proper" ideas and stories are told. (The Dems version of Pravda) dividing the country into groups to make sure national unity is very difficult to achieve, trying to erase or change history to fit their narrative. Need more? Katie Couric even suggested Repubs needed to be "re-educated" not kidding.
Jeeeeebus, I am glad you are not mine! How phuquing stupid are you?
Free speech stifled? How so? Please dont try and convince me morons should be able to spit out any bullshit lies on a public forum without consequences.
Voting rules changed? Where? The questions are all in states with Republican legislatures....and all questions were settled by state and federal courts! Tax rates have NEVER EVER been lower, you idiot! QAnon is today’s “truth censors” and they specialize in verifying the unverifiable and spreading disinformation and false information. Katie Couric...hell! I will tell you abbey, if you believe this shit you printed, you need to be “re-educated”...and I AM NOT KIDDING! YOU ARE A FOOL! Thankfully for you, being a fool is not unconstitutional.
 
Here are just a few examples of the Marxist ideas the dems are embracing, stifling free speech, trying to change election laws to make it less likely they will ever lose again, tax rates so high we work for the goverment and not ourselves, creating "truth" censors to make sure only the "proper" ideas and stories are told. (The Dems version of Pravda) dividing the country into groups to make sure national unity is very difficult to achieve, trying to erase or change history to fit their narrative. Need more? Katie Couric even suggested Repubs needed to be "re-educated" not kidding.


Is it painless being so gullible?
 
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Jeeeeebus, I am glad you are not mine! How phuquing stupid are you?
Free speech stifled? How so? Please dont try and convince me morons should be able to spit out any bullshit lies on a public forum without consequences.
Voting rules changed? Where? The questions are all in states with Republican legislatures....and all questions were settled by state and federal courts! Tax rates have NEVER EVER been lower, you idiot! QAnon is today’s “truth censors” and they specialize in verifying the unverifiable and spreading disinformation and false information. Katie Couric...hell! I will tell you abbey, if you believe this shit you printed, you need to be “re-educated”...and I AM NOT KIDDING! YOU ARE A FOOL! Thankfully for you, being a fool is not unconstitutional.
You're not real bright or honest. Please for your own safety stay away from sharp objects.
 
Jeeeeebus, I am glad you are not mine! How phuquing stupid are you?
Free speech stifled? How so? Please dont try and convince me morons should be able to spit out any bullshit lies on a public forum without consequences.
Voting rules changed? Where? The questions are all in states with Republican legislatures....and all questions were settled by state and federal courts! Tax rates have NEVER EVER been lower, you idiot! QAnon is today’s “truth censors” and they specialize in verifying the unverifiable and spreading disinformation and false information. Katie Couric...hell! I will tell you abbey, if you believe this shit you printed, you need to be “re-educated”...and I AM NOT KIDDING! YOU ARE A FOOL! Thankfully for you, being a fool is not unconstitutional.
Give the dems time, I'm sure disagreeing with them will be unconstitutional soon.
 
Crickets.

No surprise.
Here's what I found with a quick google:

Marxists believe that if the working class makes itself the ruling class, and destroys the basis for class society (private property, or what Marx called "Bourgeois Property"), there will be a "classless society." In a Marxist society, no social classes are in conflict, and there is no government anymore.

These wingnuts use these terms without any idea of their meaning. This includes socialism and communism. Within their circle it works where fools talking to fools is everyone happy.
 
These wingnuts use these terms without any idea of their meaning. This includes socialism and communism. Within their circle it works where fools talking to fools is everyone happy.

Most also don't realize that many aspects of our economy actually have socialist underpinnings to them.
 
Give the dems time, I'm sure disagreeing with them will be unconstitutional soon.

Seems like something you would hear on infowars or Tucker Carlson. I hear the democrats also want to ban grits and cornbread! What kind of people would do that?
 
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I brought this up on 1/6 or 1/7, but it was lost in the firestorm. She was just saying random s***. As I have posted about Tommy Tuberville, and Marjorie Taylor Greene, I cannot wait for them to appear in committee. Mitch and Kevin will do everything they can to hide them, but I want them front and center to show moderate Republicans and independents what's at stake in 2022 and 2024.
Gotta love Tuberville saying his Dad fought in WW2 to stop socialism. Nearly identical to Bluto saying did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor... except that was in a comedy movie
 
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Here are just a few examples of the Marxist ideas the dems are embracing, stifling free speech, trying to change election laws to make it less likely they will ever lose again, tax rates so high we work for the goverment and not ourselves, creating "truth" censors to make sure only the "proper" ideas and stories are told. (The Dems version of Pravda) dividing the country into groups to make sure national unity is very difficult to achieve, trying to erase or change history to fit their narrative. Need more? Katie Couric even suggested Repubs needed to be "re-educated" not kidding.

And the wisdom of applying a 19th Century philosophy to current socioeconomic situations is __________?

It's simply you have no idea what Marxism is. Either that or you are a radicalized McCarthyist. So you just as well be in the QAnon camp of wierdos. Jeez, fruitcakes everywhere.
 
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