I hope we can all agree on this.

[St. Louis Hawk]

Woman buys a TX lottery ticket through a third-party agent. Wins 83 million. One week after the drawing, TX changes the rules and says it won’t accept tickets purchased in that manner.

She presents winning ticket a couple weeks after and TX refuses to pay. So the state changed the rules after the drawing.

Lawsuit filed of course.

She wins if you are on the jury, yes?

Texas woman sues state lottery commission for unpaid $83 million jackpot

The woman, identified as Jane Doe, filed a lawsuit on May 19 alleging the Texas Lottery Commission has not paid her jackpot winnings from February.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[pjhawk]

Ken Paxton trying to pocket the money himself?

 

[SL Hawk Fan]

Assuming she can prove the original purchase occurred before the rule-change, it seems fairly clear that she should prevail. But it’s still Texas, after all.

 

[seminole97]

Article I, section 9?

Why doesn’t the first judge that sees this just dismiss on those grounds?

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

Woman buys a TX lottery ticket through a third-party agent. Wins 83 million. One week after the drawing, TX changes the rules and says it won’t accept tickets purchased in that manner.

She presents winning ticket a couple weeks after and TX refuses to pay. So the state changed the rules after the drawing.

Lawsuit filed of course.

She wins if you are on the jury, yes?

Texas woman sues state lottery commission for unpaid $83 million jackpot

The woman, identified as Jane Doe, filed a lawsuit on May 19 alleging the Texas Lottery Commission has not paid her jackpot winnings from February.

www.nbcnews.com

I’m giving her the $$$ if I’m on the jury

 

[DirtyJohns97]

I would probably award her $100 million for them trying to **** with her like that. $150 million if she's hot.

 

[St. Louis Hawk]

Assuming she can prove the original purchase occurred before the rule-change, it seems fairly clear that she should prevail. But it’s still Texas, after all.

No dispute there.

Bought ticket on Feb 17, drawing that same day, rule change Feb 24, presented ticket in March. Suit filed in May.

 

[ISUBryce]

I would probably award her $100 million for them trying to **** with her like that. $150 million if she's hot.

Yup. I’m penalizing the state for wasting everybody’s time.

 

[The Tradition]

Pay that woman her money.gif

 

[MitchLL]

Texas....Shithole State!

 

[Scruddy]

Pay her the money she won plus extra for the BS

 

[LuciousBDragon]

Woman buys a TX lottery ticket through a third-party agent. Wins 83 million. One week after the drawing, TX changes the rules and says it won’t accept tickets purchased in that manner.

She presents winning ticket a couple weeks after and TX refuses to pay. So the state changed the rules after the drawing.

Lawsuit filed of course.

She wins if you are on the jury, yes?

Texas woman sues state lottery commission for unpaid $83 million jackpot

The woman, identified as Jane Doe, filed a lawsuit on May 19 alleging the Texas Lottery Commission has not paid her jackpot winnings from February.

www.nbcnews.com

If I were her attorney, I would definitely take the case forward. However, my fee is coincidentally about $83 million.

 

[prlyles]

What reason is the state giving for not paying her?

 

[St. Louis Hawk]

What reason is the state giving for not paying her?

That they changed the rules and do not allow people to purchase tickets from a third-party.

 

[The Tradition]

What reason is the state giving for not paying her?

She didn't try to cash in her winning ticket until after the rule changed.

 

[prlyles]

She didn't try to cash in her winning ticket until after the rule changed.

Would they have accepted it that late date if she had bought it straight out?
I think everyone can agree they are trying to shit her out of the money they owe her.

 

[alaskanseminole]

She wins if you are on the jury, yes?

 

[Aardvark86]

Woman buys a TX lottery ticket through a third-party agent. Wins 83 million. One week after the drawing, TX changes the rules and says it won’t accept tickets purchased in that manner.

She presents winning ticket a couple weeks after and TX refuses to pay. So the state changed the rules after the drawing.

Lawsuit filed of course.

She wins if you are on the jury, yes?

Texas woman sues state lottery commission for unpaid $83 million jackpot

The woman, identified as Jane Doe, filed a lawsuit on May 19 alleging the Texas Lottery Commission has not paid her jackpot winnings from February.

www.nbcnews.com

But if I’m the judge I’ll hear any immunity defenses the state has to offer

 

[St. Louis Hawk]

She didn't try to cash in her winning ticket until after the rule changed.

When she bought her ticket and paid her money, the rules allowed her to do what she did.

 

[runkpanole]

She didn't try to cash in her winning ticket until after the rule changed.

You would agree that she purchased the ticket when the rules allowed it, correct?

 

[runkpanole]

But if I’m the judge I’ll hear any immunity defenses the state has to offer

What immunity defense would they have? This isn’t a liability claim. @seminole97 has it correct, Article I Section 9 says government can’t apply a law retroactively.

 

[The Tradition]

When she bought her ticket and paid her money, the rules allowed her to do what she did.

You would agree that she purchased the ticket when the rules allowed it, correct?

Yes

 

[millah_22]

What reason is the state giving for not paying her?

Pissed that a middle man is making a cut. Only the people that bribe state officials are allowed to do that.

 

[Lindemann]

Well, either way there's a winning lottery ticket sitting out there. Is the state saying the ticket is invalid because a third party transaction occured? Seems like more a question of who legally owns it.

 

[NoleinATL]

I would pay the woman—it’s foolish to try to withhold the funds just because she used a courier service.
That said, I had never heard of a lottery courier service before, so I looked it up. It's essentially DoorDash for lottery tickets.
It must be showing signs of profitability—DraftKings acquired the company for $750 million.

Draft Kings

 

[St. Louis Hawk]

I would pay the woman—it’s foolish to try to withhold the funds just because she used a courier service.
That said, I had never heard of a lottery courier service before, so I looked it up. It's essentially DoorDash for lottery tickets.
It must be showing signs of profitability—DraftKings acquired the company for $750 million.

Draft Kings

I am gong to use one for the big Vegas survivor pool this fall. You actually have to be in Nevada to do that when you sign the agreement, but the casino and gaming commission will accept.

 

[Aardvark86]

What immunity defense would they have? This isn’t a liability claim. @seminole97 has it correct, Article I Section 9 says government can’t apply a law retroactively.

It’s Texas. Never say never. (Btw, the federal prohibition against ex post facto laws Only applies to criminal matters).

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Texas....Shithole State!

Fire Texas from the Union and replace it with Alberta!!!

 

[tarheelbybirth]

What reason is the state giving for not paying her?

The same reason they gave for trying to toss 60,000 votes in NC. Yes, the votes were cast legally…but we’re going to change the rules so they shouldn’t BE legal.

 

[Aardvark86]

The same reason they gave for trying to toss 60,000 votes in NC. Yes, the votes were cast legally…but we’re going to change the rules so they shouldn’t BE legal.

I assume that at the end of the day they claim it applies based on the timing of redemption rather than timing of purchase…which ought to be readily apparent one way or the other from the face of it.

 

[SeaPA]

Woman buys a TX lottery ticket through a third-party agent. Wins 83 million. One week after the drawing, TX changes the rules and says it won’t accept tickets purchased in that manner.

She presents winning ticket a couple weeks after and TX refuses to pay. So the state changed the rules after the drawing.

Lawsuit filed of course.

She wins if you are on the jury, yes?

Texas woman sues state lottery commission for unpaid $83 million jackpot

The woman, identified as Jane Doe, filed a lawsuit on May 19 alleging the Texas Lottery Commission has not paid her jackpot winnings from February.

www.nbcnews.com

Without question. Award her the full amount that the ticket won, plus interest. Probably tack on another 20% as punitive damages.

Absolute BS that the state is trying to skip.out on paying.

 

[Aardvark86]

Without question. Award her the full amount that the ticket won, plus interest. Probably tack on another 20% as punitive damages.

Absolute BS that the state is trying to skip.out on paying.

Assuming it’s a jury question and not a legal one, I’d award her too, but there are no punitive against the government, and even against a private party, you’re capped at 200k in Texas.

 

[IIowaFarmBoy]

t don’t know what it is but there has to be another angle.

 

[TennNole17]

Educate me- what is buying a lottery ticket via 3rd party?

 

[Jedhawk77]

Woman buys a TX lottery ticket through a third-party agent. Wins 83 million. One week after the drawing, TX changes the rules and says it won’t accept tickets purchased in that manner.

She presents winning ticket a couple weeks after and TX refuses to pay. So the state changed the rules after the drawing.

Lawsuit filed of course.

She wins if you are on the jury, yes?

Texas woman sues state lottery commission for unpaid $83 million jackpot

The woman, identified as Jane Doe, filed a lawsuit on May 19 alleging the Texas Lottery Commission has not paid her jackpot winnings from February.

www.nbcnews.com

I'm in my red hat and waiting to see what DT47 and FOX news says on the matter. Then I will form my opinion.

 

[millah_22]

Educate me- what is buying a lottery ticket via 3rd party?

Door dash for lotto tickets.

 

[DirtyJohns97]

Well

Assuming it’s a jury question and not a legal one, I’d award her too, but there are no punitive against the government, and even against a private party, you’re capped at 200k in Texas.

What if we changed the rules after the fact!

 

[tarheelbybirth]

I assume that at the end of the day they claim it applies based on the timing of redemption rather than timing of purchase…which ought to be readily apparent one way or the other from the face of it.

The wording of the law would be crucial, I’d assume.

 

[TennNole17]

Door dash for lotto tickets.

Unsure if serious (cause site is slow and article wouldn’t load)

DoorDash uses Credit Card(or other means) for purchase. In TN only can be purchased by cash (for some reason I’m unsure of)

 

[Aardvark86]

Well

What if we changed the rules after the fact!

It can, in fact, be done, particularly by states