Musk will have all of us tagged as option A or option B.
I think it is time for some of you to read 1984 again
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Actually, if you want to understand how all this shit fits into the big picture, it’s time to read sp Huntington’s “American politics: the promise of disharmony”. It’s actually nonfiction
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At this point so is 1984.
This review of the book is interesting.
This 1981 book eerily predicted today’s distrustful and angry political mood
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Irony in the extreme.
Identity politics is the lifeblood of democratic machine. 1984 is a playbook for you and your ilk
I don't think you have read 1984 and your response is just forced buzzwords.
I think you are 1984. You are everything that book is about. All of it. You and the entire Democrat party.
I just want to make sure I've got this as intended, the group that raised 1.4 billion dollars in 100 days using huge corporations disguised as small donors, who controlled all the media, the media who were caught editing information for one candidate while going over the top on the negative aspects of the other candidate, who installed a candidate without any form of democracy, who openly admits lawfare..... thinks the other side needs to read 1984.
I love hbot.
I love hbot.
Like I said. You haven't read it.
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HB Heisman
You think democrats control all the media? 2016 wants its narrative back.
Foxnews
Newsmax
Truth Social
OAN
Breitbart
New York Post
and many many more
I would not be surprised if more Americans get their news from conservatively aligned sources than from liberal.
Yes I do, the bottom of that are obscure sources. The reason the dems lost was Twitter, without Twitter "cnn" would have ran Kamala to the finish on "we are not going back" messaging.
Truth social putting up bluesky numbers these days?
The left controlled MSM, that broke during the biden/Harris transition when there was a fracture on saying Joe was still good and trying to prop up a puppet.
You think most of the users on here can read?
Haha, that's rich.
Haha, that's rich.
yeah, ive seen that review and it's a pretty fair one. there's also a decent clip out there of a prof from uva giving a bit of an intro to it.This review of the book is interesting.
This 1981 book eerily predicted today’s distrustful and angry political mood
Vox is a general interest news site for the 21st century. Its mission: to help everyone understand our complicated world, so that we can all help shape it. In text, video and audio, our reporters explain politics, policy, world affairs, technology, culture, science, the climate crisis, money...
I first read the book in 1983 as a college freshman (it was that book that wasn't discussed in class but was critical to the final exam paper). Dug it out of a box and picked it up again in 2016 given the times, and it was sort of stunning. (Note - there's a bit of a dated late cold war feel to parts of it, but the substance holds up well). It's a little eerie how Huntington's 60-year cycle is almost spot on. Again.
I may well dig it out again...hopefully Mrs. A put it on the shelves at the new house, otherwise...moving boxes.
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Not really. Usually when someone on one side or the other invokes "1984," it's a sign that you're about to witness a "first draw the curves, then plot the data" exercise.
Which of those gaslit the American people for four years telling us all was well with the man in the Oval Office?
Yeah, that article was written in 2016. In 2025 I would say now also are in the midst of:
- Political participation expanded, often assuming new forms and often expressed through hitherto unusual channels.”
- “The principal political cleavages of the period tended to cut across economic class lines, with some combination of middle- and working-class groups promoting change.”
- “Major reforms were attempted in political institutions in order to limit power and reshape institutions in terms of American ideals (some of which were successful and some of which were lasting).”
- “A basic realignment occurred in the relations between social forces and political institutions, often including but not limited to the political party system.”
- “The prevailing ethos promoting reform in the name of traditional ideals was, in a sense, both forward-looking and backward-looking, progressive and conservative.”
The ones who need to read it are illiterate.
Not to mention none understand satire.
Agreed; but chapeau to the reviewer for being ahead of the curve and in the right church, if not precisely the right pew.
I did not mean that as a slight to the reviewer but rather chapeau (had to look that one up). Very interesting perspective, with the twist that as the reviewer notes, this time the charge is not being led by the "political left". So the pendulum is swinging back to the "political right" if not already being there. What is hard to make sense of for me is that distrust of billionaires/establishment/institutions feeding prior cycles is being subsumed by trusting billionaires to make the right decisions for all of America. So Trump has tapped into the lower/middle class desires, while he himself and who he wants in his cabinet, at least to me, do not make sense in furthering the interests of the lower/middle class. So is this cycle built on a house of cards with Trump leading lambs to the slaughter? Or is something else afoot?
You guys remember Missouri vs Biden.... totally not like a totalitarian government leaning on social media to hedge information
and then getting caught
but having enough corruption in the ranks to be able to pass it off with a wrist slap.....
Could never see that one happening in Orwells universe.
and then getting caught
but having enough corruption in the ranks to be able to pass it off with a wrist slap.....
Could never see that one happening in Orwells universe.
Dear God, you could make a hat out of that pelt.
Man vs Machine:
Tell me what I "can't unsee" w/o having to listen to 4 and a half minutes of rambling...
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Not taken that way.
Exactly as to the potentially "different" aspect of this cycle - I've been mulling that myself!!! I suppose Huntington's theory is such that the "driver" of a particular era can wear either 'left' or 'right' hats -- and who knows, maybe the reform/restructure outcome that it predicts may be driven by the "reaction" to Trump 2.0 rather than Trump 2.0 itself. (Note: I think Huntington actually felt that the pendulum analogy was a little too simplistic, fwiw; if anything, while he doesn't say this in so many words, I think that it's "directionally" more liberal democratic over time).
I started a new thread on this because I think it is interesting. Feel free to blow on the embers and help it get going!Not taken that way.
Also, if this is the case, shit is about to get wild for the next decade.
The ones that need to read it, either don't have the skills or that attention span. In the case of HBOT magats, both are likely.
You misspelled Israel. From the river to the sea remember? I remember all you nazis wanting the death of jews the last few years. At least out in the open the last few years.
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