I think we are about to see a lot of abortion visuals from the pro-life crowd.

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It's not the only way but it's the most effective way.
I dont believe that is remotely true. Government creates waste and corruption. Helping in our communities with our own money and time is the way to take care of people.
 

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I think Faulty was one of the idiots who laughed when I'd posted long ago that this was where we were heading.


Because Faulty doesn't seem to understand the issue, this means any "miscarriage" can be investigated as a crime (of murder).
 

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I dont believe that is remotely true. Government creates waste and corruption. Helping in our communities with our own money and time is the way to take care of people.

Charity did jack squat for people without health insurance. The affordable care act got like 30 million people health insurance.

Take food stamps away and food pantries would never be able to keep up.

Yes there is some waste and corruption but there is so with charities as well. The difference is that the government has documents and investigating power to crack down on these things and charge those getting benefits illegally with crimes. Charities just have to take their lumps and accept it.

There is little preventing me or others outside of personal integrity from going to a nearby soup kitchen to get a free lunch today. However there is documents and the fear of criminal charges that are preventing me from trying to get food stamps illegally.
 

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People in America who think they grew up poor actually had lots of advantages that the minorities who are poor never see.

That and the term is relative.

I thought as a kid we were poor because we had a window AC unit and didn't get centralized air conditioning until I was a teenager.

But at the same time when I went to work as a kid/teen I got to keep my money, I wasn't doing it to support my family.
 
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Yeah… and if you’re a pro choice female who got pregnant by a man you never intended to marry and demand that he pay child support because you decided to give birth, then you’re a hypocrite.

If it’s your body your choice, then stop asking men to pay for your choice.

See how that works?
Honestly i would’t blame women who didnt want a child (married or not) if they just closed up shop on their pussah and told the men in their life (whether a casual hookup or a serious relationship) “too bad”
 

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No. The left is completely disgusted by the exploitation of one the toughest and often most desperate decisions someone can make by manipulative little bitches like yourself, doobs. Mostly for political purposes. You turds aren't nearly as bothered by starving and diseased/dying actual human kids as you vote against their meal programs and strip away their parent's health care. Tons of disturbing images of that that shouldn't be exploited either, simpleton. Eat shit
Are you bothered by record high inflation that is further crushing the lower class?
 

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so once again man has decided to put his moral laws and viewpoints above God's? FTR the inspired word of God makes it clear he views a fetus as a life.
Psalms 139:16-"Your eyes even saw me as an embryo; all its parts were written in your book. Regarding the days when they were formed, before any of them existed."
This SHOULD end the debate. Now I get it. there are those of you who don't believe in the existence of an intelligent Creator, however in that case I have one little word: ADOPTION.
Here is another brilliant observation....If you are unprepared to bring a child into the world, then either close your legs, or you better double up on the birth control. Sad that so many lives are lost due to a supposed adult not being able to control themselves or act responsibly.
I admit the choice would be difficult in situations of rape, or other medical issues, but in those cases a person would want to trust God and to believe they will be rewarded for following His standards.( again i get it, some out there don't believe in God. For those I suppose the issue becomes a bit more cloudy)
 
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Welp, this is in the top 10 most ridiculous things I have ever read on here. SMH
It’s not ridiculous at all. It’s a reasonable trade off.

Because what you’re saying is that you’re ok with women relieving themselves of responsibility when they see fit and still holding men responsible when women choose to have a baby?

That is a ridiculous position to hold. That’s what you call a double standard.
 

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Murder is illegal.
And yet the right makes it so easy to do so much of it so quickly. Maybe they’d come around if they had to be in the room when a mother is informed that her toddler’s head was blown off with an AR15 during finger painting.

And of course I’m kidding. I’ve seen the pictures the antiabortion psychos tastelessly throw in your face (it’s a wonder more of them aren’t stuck together…) and I’m still as pro choice as ever.
 
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It’s not ridiculous at all. It’s a reasonable trade off.

Because what you’re saying is that you’re ok with women relieving themselves of responsibility when they see fit and still holding men responsible when women choose to have a baby?

That is a ridiculous position to hold. That’s what you call a double standard.
Lol. You just doubled down on silly.
 

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so once again man has decided to put his moral laws and viewpoints above God's? FTR the inspired word of God makes it clear he views a fetus as a life.
Psalms 139:16-"Your eyes even saw me as an embryo; all its parts were written in your book. Regarding the days when they were formed, before any of them existed."
This SHOULD end the debate. Now I get it. there are those of you who don't believe in the existence of an intelligent Creator, however in that case I have one little word: ADOPTION.
Here is another brilliant observation....If you are unprepared to bring a child into the world, then either close your legs, or you better double up on the birth control. Sad that so many lives are lost due to a supposed adult not being able to control themselves or act responsibly.
I admit the choice would be difficult in situations of rape, or other medical issues, but in those cases a person would want to trust God and to believe they will be rewarded for following His standards.( again i get it, some out there don't believe in God. For those I suppose the issue becomes a bit more cloudy)
You know who else agrees with you...the Michigan congressman who said "If rape is inevitable, just lay there and enjoy it." Also, you're quoting fiction. Would you like some Harry Potter quotes? Jack Ryan?
 

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Oh, so you got nothing. It’s silly that you believe that’s ok.
I argue enough with that kind of stupidity. It's a ridiculous take. You're advocating for more one child homes, with more children being born into poverty, and the rest of us will have to pay for it.

I never do get an answer why Republicans want more unwanted children born into our populace that we taxpayers are going to have to pay for. Kids born into poverty. Increases crime rates. More welfare. More jail. More lives lost.

You guys aren't pro-life.
 
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You know who else agrees with you...the Michigan congressman who said "If rape is inevitable, just lay there and enjoy it." Also, you're quoting fiction. Would you like some Harry Potter quotes? Jack Ryan?
Not even close to what Im saying.....
 

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Not even close to what Im saying.....
Oh but you are on his side of the argument. You can throw your bible fiction here all you want but it doesn't change the fact that YOU are on the same side as the pedophiles who rape kids in junior high and have more rights than the girl who wants to get rid of the fetus so she can at least try to move on with her life. You're on the side of fathers who rape their daughters demanding that those little girls have their child.

That's more than a tad sick, dude.
 

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Oh but you are on his side of the argument. You can throw your bible fiction here all you want but it doesn't change the fact that YOU are on the same side as the pedophiles who rape kids in junior high and have more rights than the girl who wants to get rid of the fetus so she can at least try to move on with her life. You're on the side of fathers who rape their daughters demanding that those little girls have their child.

That's more than a tad sick, dude.
You literally laughed at me when I said child porn and exploitation were one of the most evil things that can happen. Pretty much advocating it. So maybe you need to sit down and be quiet
 

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You literally laughed at me when I said child porn and exploitation were one of the most evil things that can happen. Pretty much advocating it. So maybe you need to sit down and be quiet
You struggle with reading.
 

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Oh but you are on his side of the argument. You can throw your bible fiction here all you want but it doesn't change the fact that YOU are on the same side as the pedophiles who rape kids in junior high and have more rights than the girl who wants to get rid of the fetus so she can at least try to move on with her life. You're on the side of fathers who rape their daughters demanding that those little girls have their child.

That's more than a tad sick, dude.
wrong. I know you're using the most extreme circumstances to support your opinion, but in the MAJORITY of abortion cases are not in the category you are arguing. And once again there is the ADOPTION route. And whether a young girl has an abortion or puts an infant up for adoption both are going to be a traumatic life changing event...oh and adoption would allow someone to move on with their life as well as the child involved.
 
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You struggle with reading.
 

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I argue enough with that kind of stupidity. It's a ridiculous take. You're advocating for more one child homes, with more children being born into poverty, and the rest of us will have to pay for it.

I never do get an answer why Republicans want more unwanted children born into our populace that we taxpayers are going to have to pay for. Kids born into poverty. Increases crime rates. More welfare. More jail. More lives lost.

You guys aren't pro-life.

Funny… How many parents that have had a child say they wish they wouldn’t have had that child?

I’ll wait for your answer.

Also, don’t try to pretend that you care about increased taxes. You don’t.

So if you can get an answer to my question, that would be great.
 

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so once again man has decided to put his moral laws and viewpoints above God's? FTR the inspired word of God makes it clear he views a fetus as a life.
Psalms 139:16-"Your eyes even saw me as an embryo; all its parts were written in your book. Regarding the days when they were formed, before any of them existed."
This SHOULD end the debate. Now I get it. there are those of you who don't believe in the existence of an intelligent Creator, however in that case I have one little word: ADOPTION.
Here is another brilliant observation....If you are unprepared to bring a child into the world, then either close your legs, or you better double up on the birth control. Sad that so many lives are lost due to a supposed adult not being able to control themselves or act responsibly.
I admit the choice would be difficult in situations of rape, or other medical issues, but in those cases a person would want to trust God and to believe they will be rewarded for following His standards.( again i get it, some out there don't believe in God. For those I suppose the issue becomes a bit more cloudy)
Not above, but separate. Like it was always intended.

Also, I'm sure you will be shocked to find out that not everyone in the United States is Christian.
 
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Not above, but separate. Like it was always intended.

Also, I'm sure you will be shocked to find out that not everyone in the United States is Christian.
yes I understand this.
and who intended it to be separate? Man? Not sure what you mean by this?
 

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Funny… How many parents that have had a child say they wish they wouldn’t have had that child?

I’ll wait for your answer.

Also, don’t try to pretend that you care about increased taxes. You don’t.

So if you can get an answer to my question, that would be great.
Oh man you don't want to have that discussion because I've heard it and I've heard kids tell me their mom said it.

Increased taxes? I guess that's another thing you're wrong about. Anyway, have a good day, because talking to you is pointless. I go back to your very first silly comment.
 

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wrong. I know you're using the most extreme circumstances to support your opinion, but in the MAJORITY of abortion cases are not in the category you are arguing. And once again there is the ADOPTION route. And whether a young girl has an abortion or puts an infant up for adoption both are going to be a traumatic life changing event...oh and adoption would allow someone to move on with their life as well as the child involved.
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Ahhhhh....because the people you vote for don't agree with you. My bad...you can read, you just can't comprehend. I laughed at you because like most Republicans, you vote for people who demand babies be born and then after that, bootstraps.
 

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so once again man has decided to put his moral laws and viewpoints above God's? FTR the inspired word of God makes it clear he views a fetus as a life.
Psalms 139:16-"Your eyes even saw me as an embryo; all its parts were written in your book. Regarding the days when they were formed, before any of them existed."
This SHOULD end the debate. Now I get it. there are those of you who don't believe in the existence of an intelligent Creator, however in that case I have one little word: ADOPTION.
Here is another brilliant observation....If you are unprepared to bring a child into the world, then either close your legs, or you better double up on the birth control. Sad that so many lives are lost due to a supposed adult not being able to control themselves or act responsibly.
I admit the choice would be difficult in situations of rape, or other medical issues, but in those cases a person would want to trust God and to believe they will be rewarded for following His standards.( again i get it, some out there don't believe in God. For those I suppose the issue becomes a bit more cloudy)
 

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Oh man you don't want to have that discussion because I've heard it and I've heard kids tell me their mom said it.

Increased taxes? I guess that's another thing you're wrong about. Anyway, have a good day, because talking to you is pointless. I go back to your very first silly comment.

So you don’t have any real evidence of parents not wanting their children. Got it.