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Obama, College Edition
Nov. 9, 2015 7:34am
Wayne Root

  • The mainstream media just opened the door for conservatives to demand President Barack Obama release his Columbia University records immediately. How nice of them! Thank you!

The media decided to investigate Dr. Ben Carson’s claims about getting a scholarship offer from West Point. They say Dr. Carson made a “false claim.”


Did he?


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I don’t know. It’s muddled and debatable, although clear that one of the world’s most prominent brain surgeons certainly doesn’t need to exaggerate any claims about his education. Dr. Carson claimed he was “offered” a scholarship by a well-known Army general if he applied to West Point. He wanted to be a doctor and chose not to. Was it an actual scholarship offer, or just a casual conversation? Politicians exaggerate or remember things to their benefit all the time. But his claim, however interpreted, didn’t cost taxpayers a dime.

The same can’t be said of Obama’s whoppers. Obama’s lies about Obamacare alone have cost American taxpayers millions, even billions in higher premiums and medical costs. Like millions of others, I lost my insurance based on Obama’s lies, and now I’m paying far more and getting far less. Obama promised the world and delivered disaster.

Now THAT’S a significant lie.

Jonathan Gruber, the architect of Obamacare, even admitted fraud was committed to fool the “dumb voters.”

But, let’s compare apples to apples. The media is going after Dr. Carson for supposedly making false claims about his college record. So isn’t this the perfect time to demand fair, unbiased and equal treatment of Obama’s college record? As any good trial lawyer would say, “The media opened the door to this one.” If you can investigate Dr. Carson, then you must investigate Obama’s claims about college as well.

Apples to apples. The media is trying to disqualify Dr. Carson’s right to the presidency based on his college records. Why did they never check Obama’s college records? Why are Obama’s Columbia records STILL sealed seven years into his presidency?

The media anxiously called West Point demanding to verify Dr. Carson’s claims, but never called Columbia to verify Obama’s claims. Why? If claims about college from 30 or 40 years ago are important for Dr. Carson, why not Obama?

Did Obama make false claims about his college experience? No one can prove it (yet) because his college records are sealed. Why? What is he hiding? If it matters for Carson, it should even more for a man already sitting in the White House with his fingers on the economy and the nuclear button.

It’s time to DEMAND that Obama release his Columbia college records.


This undated photo provided by the presidential campaign of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., shows the Democratic presidential hopeful, Obama, in New York City, while a student at Columbia University. Obama received his B.A. degree in political science in 1983 from Columbia. (AP Photo/Obama Presidential Campaign, File)



Fair is fair. If what a young man claims happened at college many years ago is important for Carson, then it’s important for Obama too.

I graduated Columbia University in June of 1983. According to Obama not only were we in the same graduating class, we had the same majors, Political Science and Pre-Law. That would mean we took the same classes. I thought I knew every classmate in Columbia’s Political Science department.

Yet neither I nor anyone I knew ever met, saw, or heard of Obama.

This was reinforced two years ago in 2013 when I attended my Columbia University 30th class reunion.

I asked everyone – “Did you ever see Obama at Columbia?” Not one classmate answered affirmatively.

I simply couldn’t believe no one claimed to have met a classmate, who supposedly was in our class, and who was later to become president of the United States. So, I tracked down Professor Henry Graff, perhaps the most honored professor in Columbia history and Columbia’s Presidential historian. I interviewed Graff that same year for TheBlaze.

Professor Graff never met Obama; heard of him; or saw him.

Professor Graff said it was virtually impossible to graduate Columbia as a Political Science major without attending his history classes. Yet Graff never heard of him. He even studied his old records to verify Obama’s existence at Columbia … and found nothing.

Graff asked other Columbia professors. None remembered Obama ever being in their classes. All of this is on the record from my interview, published in 2013 here at TheBlaze.

Obama is “the ghost of Columbia.” With his records sealed we can only conclude his existence at Columbia is just a rumor.

Isn’t this an important issue for the media? Something is wrong, yet no one in the mainstream media cares about the possibility Obama might have made false claims about his college records?

Yet in Dr. Carson’s case, they were champing at the bit to investigate a casual boast of a one-time meeting with a general.

Now, assuming Obama did graduate from Columbia, but never went to class (a very strange story)…

How did a poor student from Occidental, an average non-Ivy League college, transfer into Columbia in the first place? Columbia only accepts a handful of transfers and those are always “the best of the best” scholars from the top of their classes at Harvard, Yale or Princeton. Clearly Obama didn’t meet that standard.

Why are Obama’s college records sealed? Did they show bad behavior? Was he caught using drugs? Were his grades terrible?

One possibility is that Obama beat the long odds of being accepted for transfer into Columbia by claiming status as an Indonesian “foreign student.” People familiar with the admissions process tell me that was a likely way to jump ahead of other applicants. But, of course, if true it would be out and out fraud.

Could that be why Obama sealed his college records? He released his birth certificate, yet never released his college records. Why?

Perhaps critics have been looking in the wrong place. Is it possible Obama’s college records are the weakness in his narrative? We’ll never know, unless the media demands access to his Columbia college files. Ghost or no ghost, he is clearly hiding something.

If the media thinks Dr. Carson’s claims about his college experience 40 years ago are relevant, then clearly Obama’s college claims are relevant too. It’s time for all of us to demand Obama release his Columbia college records. It’s time for the media to scrutinize Obama the same way they are scrutinizing Ben Carson, Donald Trump, and every other GOP Presidential candidate.

Dr. Carson’s claims haven’t cost taxpayers a dime. But Obama’s presidency has cost all of us dearly. If it was all built on a lie, on fraud, we have a right to know.
 
I will definitely not vote for Obama again if he doesnt unseal his records.

What does one's academic records have to do with the price of tea in China? You DO NOT have that right...why would you think you do? How friggin' nosey and obtuse can you be? Jeeeebus Keeeeripes....who cares?
You really let stuff like this bother you? Life is TOOOOOO short to sweat the small stuff. And this is REALLY small stuff.
 
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Sure. But what you DON'T know is Obama's school records because he had them sealed and protected by a litany of lawyers.

Ben Carson? Not so much. He's pretty intelligent. What is Obama hiding?
So you're saying he isn't a lawyer? And he is not a lawyer because you don't think he is? Right? After the Revolution IMCC, I appoint you the Supreme Judge and Jury for all of us! My life will be soooo much easier and so much less cluttered. Thank you IMCC....
 
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Sure. But what you DON'T know is Obama's school records because he had them sealed and protected by a litany of lawyers.

Ben Carson? Not so much. He's pretty intelligent. What is Obama hiding?
d right now IMCC, it appears that Ben is trying to hide a lot of stuff. Ofcourse, it's the liberal media who are out to get him...liberals like Joe Scarborough.
 
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Sure. But what you DON'T know is Obama's school records because he had them sealed and protected by a litany of lawyers.

Ben Carson? Not so much. He's pretty intelligent. What is Obama hiding?

Amazing that all these years later the mouth breathers still think obama had his records sealed yet there is no evidence of any of these litany of lawyers filing any motion.
 
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Obama, College Edition
Nov. 9, 2015 7:34am
Wayne Root

  • The mainstream media just opened the door for conservatives to demand President Barack Obama release his Columbia University records immediately. How nice of them! Thank you!

The media decided to investigate Dr. Ben Carson’s claims about getting a scholarship offer from West Point. They say Dr. Carson made a “false claim.”


Did he?


Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images



I don’t know. It’s muddled and debatable, although clear that one of the world’s most prominent brain surgeons certainly doesn’t need to exaggerate any claims about his education. Dr. Carson claimed he was “offered” a scholarship by a well-known Army general if he applied to West Point. He wanted to be a doctor and chose not to. Was it an actual scholarship offer, or just a casual conversation? Politicians exaggerate or remember things to their benefit all the time. But his claim, however interpreted, didn’t cost taxpayers a dime.

The same can’t be said of Obama’s whoppers. Obama’s lies about Obamacare alone have cost American taxpayers millions, even billions in higher premiums and medical costs. Like millions of others, I lost my insurance based on Obama’s lies, and now I’m paying far more and getting far less. Obama promised the world and delivered disaster.

Now THAT’S a significant lie.

Jonathan Gruber, the architect of Obamacare, even admitted fraud was committed to fool the “dumb voters.”

But, let’s compare apples to apples. The media is going after Dr. Carson for supposedly making false claims about his college record. So isn’t this the perfect time to demand fair, unbiased and equal treatment of Obama’s college record? As any good trial lawyer would say, “The media opened the door to this one.” If you can investigate Dr. Carson, then you must investigate Obama’s claims about college as well.

Apples to apples. The media is trying to disqualify Dr. Carson’s right to the presidency based on his college records. Why did they never check Obama’s college records? Why are Obama’s Columbia records STILL sealed seven years into his presidency?

The media anxiously called West Point demanding to verify Dr. Carson’s claims, but never called Columbia to verify Obama’s claims. Why? If claims about college from 30 or 40 years ago are important for Dr. Carson, why not Obama?

Did Obama make false claims about his college experience? No one can prove it (yet) because his college records are sealed. Why? What is he hiding? If it matters for Carson, it should even more for a man already sitting in the White House with his fingers on the economy and the nuclear button.

It’s time to DEMAND that Obama release his Columbia college records.


This undated photo provided by the presidential campaign of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., shows the Democratic presidential hopeful, Obama, in New York City, while a student at Columbia University. Obama received his B.A. degree in political science in 1983 from Columbia. (AP Photo/Obama Presidential Campaign, File)



Fair is fair. If what a young man claims happened at college many years ago is important for Carson, then it’s important for Obama too.

I graduated Columbia University in June of 1983. According to Obama not only were we in the same graduating class, we had the same majors, Political Science and Pre-Law. That would mean we took the same classes. I thought I knew every classmate in Columbia’s Political Science department.

Yet neither I nor anyone I knew ever met, saw, or heard of Obama.

This was reinforced two years ago in 2013 when I attended my Columbia University 30th class reunion.

I asked everyone – “Did you ever see Obama at Columbia?” Not one classmate answered affirmatively.

I simply couldn’t believe no one claimed to have met a classmate, who supposedly was in our class, and who was later to become president of the United States. So, I tracked down Professor Henry Graff, perhaps the most honored professor in Columbia history and Columbia’s Presidential historian. I interviewed Graff that same year for TheBlaze.

Professor Graff never met Obama; heard of him; or saw him.

Professor Graff said it was virtually impossible to graduate Columbia as a Political Science major without attending his history classes. Yet Graff never heard of him. He even studied his old records to verify Obama’s existence at Columbia … and found nothing.

Graff asked other Columbia professors. None remembered Obama ever being in their classes. All of this is on the record from my interview, published in 2013 here at TheBlaze.

Obama is “the ghost of Columbia.” With his records sealed we can only conclude his existence at Columbia is just a rumor.

Isn’t this an important issue for the media? Something is wrong, yet no one in the mainstream media cares about the possibility Obama might have made false claims about his college records?

Yet in Dr. Carson’s case, they were champing at the bit to investigate a casual boast of a one-time meeting with a general.

Now, assuming Obama did graduate from Columbia, but never went to class (a very strange story)…

How did a poor student from Occidental, an average non-Ivy League college, transfer into Columbia in the first place? Columbia only accepts a handful of transfers and those are always “the best of the best” scholars from the top of their classes at Harvard, Yale or Princeton. Clearly Obama didn’t meet that standard.

Why are Obama’s college records sealed? Did they show bad behavior? Was he caught using drugs? Were his grades terrible?

One possibility is that Obama beat the long odds of being accepted for transfer into Columbia by claiming status as an Indonesian “foreign student.” People familiar with the admissions process tell me that was a likely way to jump ahead of other applicants. But, of course, if true it would be out and out fraud.

Could that be why Obama sealed his college records? He released his birth certificate, yet never released his college records. Why?

Perhaps critics have been looking in the wrong place. Is it possible Obama’s college records are the weakness in his narrative? We’ll never know, unless the media demands access to his Columbia college files. Ghost or no ghost, he is clearly hiding something.

If the media thinks Dr. Carson’s claims about his college experience 40 years ago are relevant, then clearly Obama’s college claims are relevant too. It’s time for all of us to demand Obama release his Columbia college records. It’s time for the media to scrutinize Obama the same way they are scrutinizing Ben Carson, Donald Trump, and every other GOP Presidential candidate.

Dr. Carson’s claims haven’t cost taxpayers a dime. But Obama’s presidency has cost all of us dearly. If it was all built on a lie, on fraud, we have a right to know.

So carson is saying I wont release my records but obama should release his? Interesting post habah.
 
Simple question. Have we seen Obama's grades? Have we seen the rest of the form identifying Obama?

Simple answer. No.

Why?
 
Simple question. Have we seen Obama's grades? Have we seen the rest of the form identifying Obama?

Simple answer. No.

Why?
What for? You don't think he is who he is......prove it! I mean, PROVE it. How do we know who anyome is IMCC? Hell, I am not showing you my grades/transcripts...I wouldn't even show my mother. It wasn't her business...it isn't your business...it is MY business. Why would you think it is your right to know? Ibet there are thousands of folks whose transcripts you haven't seen.
 
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Uh oh. Seems as though I hit a nerve.

Oh, and he's the president of the United States. So let me hear that you don't want to see Dr. Carson's school records.

Say it loud and say it proud.
 
Uh oh. Seems as though I hit a nerve.

Oh, and he's the president of the United States. So let me hear that you don't want to see Dr. Carson's school records.

Say it loud and say it proud.

Dont worry we expect this kind of idiocy from you.

I have no interest in carson's school records if he doesn't want to release them. Thats always been the standard. So let me hear that you don't want to see obama's school records.

Say it loud and say it proud.
 
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Exactly, no releases their grades. Thanks for admitting you were wrong.

But you never answered the question, I have no interest in carson's school records if he doesn't want to release them. Thats always been the standard. So let me hear that you don't want to see obama's school records.

Say it loud and say it proud.


Nope. I want to see his grades since everyone has been saying he's the smartest president that we've ever had. That's on you guys, not on me.

So prove he's the smartest president EVER. Let's see is academic acumen.
 
Nope. I want to see his grades since everyone has been saying he's the smartest president that we've ever had. That's on you guys, not on me.

So prove he's the smartest president EVER. Let's see is academic acumen.

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What does one's academic records have to do with the price of tea in China? You DO NOT have that right...why would you think you do? How friggin' nosey and obtuse can you be? Jeeeebus Keeeeripes....who cares?
You really let stuff like this bother you? Life is TOOOOOO short to sweat the small stuff. And this is REALLY small stuff.

Talk it through. I wont vote for him again....
 
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Sure. But what you DON'T know is Obama's school records because he had them sealed and protected by a litany of lawyers.

Ben Carson? Not so much. He's pretty intelligent. What is Obama hiding?

Ummm...noooo. School information is protected by law already. And Carson is an idiot who has one great skill.
 
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Ummm...noooo. School information is protected by law already. And Carson is an idiot who has one great skill.

And that skill is leadership.

He was Director of Pediatric Neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins for 30 years. That doesn't mean simply performing surgery, that requires leadership and management acumen.
 
And that skill is leadership.

He was Director of Pediatric Neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins for 30 years. That doesn't mean simply performing surgery, that requires leadership and management acumen.
His embellishment of his past is somewhat puzzling as he had a good 'story' without any alterations. With that in mind, I'll be the first to defend Dr. Carson's intellectual skills. He may have some odd religious and scientific beliefs, but that doesn't belie his innate cognitive abilities (I'm certain he would perform well above the 75th%ile on standardized tests of intellect).
Additionally, as you pointed out, being head of a major medical department at one of the preeminent academic-medical centers in the world demonstrates a certain skill in dealing with people of all sorts of background. It's not an easy job and one not every physician is cut out to do (I certainly wouldn't want it). You're dealing with deans, provosts, the university president, not to mention med students, residents, fellows, support staff, etc. Not to mention the role of securing internal and external funds for departmental support, teaching, mentoring, etc. Anyone who says he lacks managerial skills are just being naïve.

There are many reasons to not want Carson as our president, but lack of intellect and managerial skills are certainly not among those reasons.
 
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His embellishment of his past is somewhat puzzling as he had a good 'story' without any alterations. With that in mind, I'll be the first to defend Dr. Carson's intellectual skills. He may have some odd religious and scientific beliefs, but that doesn't belie his innate cognitive abilities (I'm certain he would perform well above the 75th%ile on standardized tests of intellect).

He would fail a middle school science test if he answered as he believes the truth to be.
 
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when he leaves office Obama should go work for one of those "life lock" type companies: he's an expert at sealing records so tight nobody could ever hack into them
 
Sure. But what you DON'T know is Obama's school records because he had them sealed and protected by a litany of lawyers.

Ben Carson? Not so much. He's pretty intelligent. What is Obama hiding?

Carson is pretty intelligent..according to Ben Carson? I'm not saying he isn't.....however, he is pretty guarded on what he has said.
 
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Uh oh. Seems as though I hit a nerve.

Oh, and he's the president of the United States. So let me hear that you don't want to see Dr. Carson's school records.

Say it loud and say it proud.
I COULD GIVE A FLYIN' CRAB ABOUT DR> BEN CARSON'S COLLEGE TRANSCRIPT!

IMCC...I really don't care. Is that good enough 4 you?
(Why don't I care? Because it really is NONE of my business.)
 
What's funny is how appalled Carson and his followers are about the heavy scrutiny he's fallen under as a result of running for president.

Wake me when they ask for another copy of his birth certificate.

I heard ol' Gentle Ben yesterday on TV say "no candidate" has under gone the scrutiny of their personal life as much as him.
Well Dr. Ben...you life to date has been one of a neural surgeon and as a writer and promoter of your autobiography.
 
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