ICE Brags About Catching 0.0002% of Criminal Aliens

[The Tradition]

Everyone ready to congratulate the federal government on doing their job? Great!

Earlier this month, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) apprehended – wait for it – 0.0002 percent of the criminal illegal aliens currently loose on the streets of the United States. And they want us to be super excited about it.

At a recent congressional hearing, ICE Director Sarah Saldaña testified there wereabout 179,000 “undocumented criminals with final orders of removal” loose in the United States. The director added between 30,000 and 40,000 of these criminals had been detained at some point, but were released by authorities because of legal restrictions on how long a criminal illegal alien can be held in custody.

But never fear! According to the agency’s website, ICE arrested 39 illegal aliens who’d been convicted on a crime during a large-scale sting operation across West Virginia, Pennsylvania and Delaware between Nov. 30 and Dec. 4. Included among these were 17 individuals arrested in the Philadelphia area, another six caught in Pittsburg, and seven apprehended in Charleston.

According to the brief description listed on ICE’s website, the criminal histories of the arrested persons included sex offenses (one against a minor), domestic violence, theft, illegally carrying a firearm and driving under the influence.

In one self-serving pat on the back, the agency then bragged about their “tireless efforts” in managing to catch a whole two out of every 10,000 criminal illegal aliens currently living in the United States who pose a threat to Americans and other members of immigrant communities:

“Due to the tireless efforts of the ICE enforcement officers, more than three dozen convicted criminals were taken off the streets,” said Tom Decker, ERO Philadelphia field office director. “We will continue to ensure our country is not a safe haven for nefarious foreign nationals.”

So if ICE apprehended 39 criminal aliens in 5 days, that clocks in at about 7.8 aliens per day. If the agency continued this torrid pace day after day after day, it would take them almost 63 years to apprehend all 179,000 of the criminal aliens we have on our streets today.

Thanks, ICE. We can all sleep much more easily now.

http://www.mrctv.org/blog/ice-brags-about-catching-00002-criminal-aliens

 

[ottumwan in tx]

it is a fact that Austin tx quit notifying ice when they caught a criminal alien because ice would do nothing anyway, might as well call a brick wall

 

[theIowaHawk]

it is a fact that Austin tx quit notifying ice when they caught a criminal alien because ice would do nothing anyway, might as well call a brick wall

Are you still claiming they won't arrest the "criminal alien" for any crimes either?

 

[theIowaHawk]

Everyone ready to congratulate the federal government on doing their job? Great!

Earlier this month, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) apprehended – wait for it – 0.0002 percent of the criminal illegal aliens currently loose on the streets of the United States. And they want us to be super excited about it.

At a recent congressional hearing, ICE Director Sarah Saldaña testified there wereabout 179,000 “undocumented criminals with final orders of removal” loose in the United States. The director added between 30,000 and 40,000 of these criminals had been detained at some point, but were released by authorities because of legal restrictions on how long a criminal illegal alien can be held in custody.

But never fear! According to the agency’s website, ICE arrested 39 illegal aliens who’d been convicted on a crime during a large-scale sting operation across West Virginia, Pennsylvania and Delaware between Nov. 30 and Dec. 4. Included among these were 17 individuals arrested in the Philadelphia area, another six caught in Pittsburg, and seven apprehended in Charleston.

According to the brief description listed on ICE’s website, the criminal histories of the arrested persons included sex offenses (one against a minor), domestic violence, theft, illegally carrying a firearm and driving under the influence.

In one self-serving pat on the back, the agency then bragged about their “tireless efforts” in managing to catch a whole two out of every 10,000 criminal illegal aliens currently living in the United States who pose a threat to Americans and other members of immigrant communities:

“Due to the tireless efforts of the ICE enforcement officers, more than three dozen convicted criminals were taken off the streets,” said Tom Decker, ERO Philadelphia field office director. “We will continue to ensure our country is not a safe haven for nefarious foreign nationals.”

So if ICE apprehended 39 criminal aliens in 5 days, that clocks in at about 7.8 aliens per day. If the agency continued this torrid pace day after day after day, it would take them almost 63 years to apprehend all 179,000 of the criminal aliens we have on our streets today.

Thanks, ICE. We can all sleep much more easily now.

http://www.mrctv.org/blog/ice-brags-about-catching-00002-criminal-aliens

Questions Trad:

179k have "final orders of removal", but have, presumably, disappeared. Do you presume the same? What/how do you propose enforcing the final orders of removal? I assume by some measure earlier, prior to the final order was given?

The next line was: "The director added between 30,000 and 40,000 of these criminals had been detained at some point, but were released by authorities because of legal restrictions on how long a criminal illegal alien can be held in custody." What do you believe this to mean? I presume it means that ICE did not have the resources (or refused?) to pick up the deportee by a specific point in time, so the local jail let them go. Correct me if you presume differently. If this is the case, what are you proposing? That local law enforcement hang on to and pay for housing these guys until the government does, in fact, show up? Even after their local court cases are finished?

Despite the article being quite misleading, trying to extrapolate one very specific subset of deportees to show the inadequacy of ICE, I'm willing to grant it every inference. So what should I be taking from this?

 

[The Tradition]

Questions Trad:

179k have "final orders of removal", but have, presumably, disappeared. Do you presume the same? What/how do you propose enforcing the final orders of removal? I assume by some measure earlier, prior to the final order was given?

ICE should be enforcing these orders and removing these people because, you know, that's their job?

The next line was: "The director added between 30,000 and 40,000 of these criminals had been detained at some point, but were released by authorities because of legal restrictions on how long a criminal illegal alien can be held in custody." What do you believe this to mean? I presume it means that ICE did not have the resources (or refused?) to pick up the deportee by a specific point in time, so the local jail let them go. Correct me if you presume differently. If this is the case, what are you proposing? That local law enforcement hang on to and pay for housing these guys until the government does, in fact, show up? Even after their local court cases are finished?

See previous answer.

Despite the article being quite misleading, trying to extrapolate one very specific subset of deportees to show the inadequacy of ICE, I'm willing to grant it every inference. So what should I be taking from this?

It says to me that ICE isn't doing their job. If these people have been ordered to be removed, then they should be removed, should they not?

 

[theIowaHawk]

Of course they should be enforcing the orders. Is that all you have? "Do your job"? What are you proposing? Hell in ANY county in the US there are dozens, hundreds, thousands of people out on warrants that aren't being picked up. Usually because of resource issues. I'm presuming the same thing is here. When the person "disappears" you have to expend resources to catch them. So, either you think ICE is flatly refusing to do their job, or you think some new measure needs to take place. If the latter, what?

So ICE isn't doing their job ... what are you proposing to do about it? Fire them? Replace them with bounty hunters? Little remote detonators on all "final order" deportees?

 

[theIowaHawk]

Identifying a problem is only step #1, I'm consistently amazed at how people forget to, you know, move on to even step #2.

 

[The Tradition]

Of course they should be enforcing the orders. Is that all you have? "Do your job"? What are you proposing? Hell in ANY county in the US there are dozens, hundreds, thousands of people out on warrants that aren't being picked up. Usually because of resource issues. I'm presuming the same thing is here. When the person "disappears" you have to expend resources to catch them. So, either you think ICE is flatly refusing to do their job, or you think some new measure needs to take place. If the latter, what?

So ICE isn't doing their job ... what are you proposing to do about it? Fire them? Replace them with bounty hunters? Little remote detonators on all "final order" deportees?

When an illegal immigrant is sitting in a jail cell, he is no longer disappeared. It's freaking insane that we can't at least get our crap together on that particular situation. You don't get to go back on the street, you get deported. It's not hard.

 

[theIowaHawk]

When an illegal immigrant is sitting in a jail cell, he is no longer disappeared. It's freaking insane that we can't at least get our crap together on that particular situation. You don't get to go back on the street, you get deported. It's not hard.

You realize I addressed this with a question, right?

The next line was: "The director added between 30,000 and 40,000 of these criminals had been detained at some point, but were released by authorities because of legal restrictions on how long a criminal illegal alien can be held in custody." What do you believe this to mean? I presume it means that ICE did not have the resources (or refused?) to pick up the deportee by a specific point in time, so the local jail let them go. Correct me if you presume differently. If this is the case, what are you proposing? That local law enforcement hang on to and pay for housing these guys until the government does, in fact, show up? Even after their local court cases are finished?

Are you wanting local law enforcement to hold these people indefinitely? Do you want to fund ICE at a higher level in order for them to be able to pick these people up sooner? Do you want local sheriff to literally drive them to another country?

Again, you've found the problem, how do you propose to solve it?

 

[The Tradition]

You realize I addressed this with a question, right?

The next line was: "The director added between 30,000 and 40,000 of these criminals had been detained at some point, but were released by authorities because of legal restrictions on how long a criminal illegal alien can be held in custody." What do you believe this to mean? I presume it means that ICE did not have the resources (or refused?) to pick up the deportee by a specific point in time, so the local jail let them go. Correct me if you presume differently. If this is the case, what are you proposing? That local law enforcement hang on to and pay for housing these guys until the government does, in fact, show up? Even after their local court cases are finished?

Are you wanting local law enforcement to hold these people indefinitely? Do you want to fund ICE at a higher level in order for them to be able to pick these people up sooner? Do you want local sheriff to literally drive them to another country?

Again, you've found the problem, how do you propose to solve it?

ICE has an annual budget of more than $5.3 billion. I would suggest that the resources exist, but are not being used in an effective or efficient way.

 

[moral_victory]

 

[theIowaHawk]

ICE has an annual budget of more than $5.3 billion. I would suggest that the resources exist, but are not being used in an effective or efficient way.

How simplistic. "The Department of Defense has an annual budget of more than $550 billion therefore they have sufficient resources."

The numbers mean nothing in a vacuum. But ok, we will go with what you've posted. Your proposal seems to be: Be more effective and efficient. You'd make a good politician, statements with no substance.

Ignore the money, tell us what you want ICE to do, specifically. Person is picked up by local law enforcement and is found out to be an alien with a final order of removal, detail for us what you want to happen and in what timeframe.

 

[The Tradition]

How simplistic. "The Department of Defense has an annual budget of more than $550 billion therefore they have sufficient resources."

The numbers mean nothing in a vacuum. But ok, we will go with what you've posted. Your proposal seems to be: Be more effective and efficient. You'd make a good politician, statements with no substance.

Ignore the money, tell us what you want ICE to do, specifically. Person is picked up by local law enforcement and is found out to be an alien with a final order of removal, detail for us what you want to happen and in what timeframe.

Well, it sounds like some judge somewhere has already handed down the timeframe. So I would expect that local police call ICE if they pick up someone suspected of being here illegally. ICE then checks to see if this person has been ordered removed from the country. If so, ICE should pick the individual up before the local police have to turn him loose. The timeline for actual deportation would again be subject to court orders.

 

[theIowaHawk]

Well, it sounds like some judge somewhere has already handed down the timeframe. So I would expect that local police call ICE if they pick up someone suspected of being here illegally. ICE then checks to see if this person has been ordered removed from the country. If so, ICE should pick the individual up before the local police have to turn him loose. The timeline for actual deportation would again be subject to court orders.

For f**** sake, for this discussion just ignore the legal ramifications that you can simply blame on people. What do YOU want to happen in these situations.

Correct me if I'm wrong in interpreting this:

1. You want local LE to call ICE about suspected illegals in their custody (not necessarily those involved in your OP statistic)
2. You want ICE to check on them to see if they are one of those in OP.
3. ICE picks them up.

Seems simple, and I'm sure is the actual procedure in place now. Do you think this is not, in fact, the procedure? Presuming it is, it isn't working. It appears that #3 doesn't take place quick enough. Why do you think that is? Presidential decree? How can it be fixed?

 

[Pinehawk]

Why does Donald Trump never get invited to the Cinco de Mayo party?

He always offers to bring the I.C.E.

 

[ottumwan in tx]

Why does greg davis never cross the street to get a hundred dollar bill on the other side? He's afraid he might be Awarded a FIRST Down!