Idea Fran probably hasn't thought of

[HawkNole09]

The hi-lo game with Garza at the free throw line and Cook on the blocks. I'm not sure how you begin to defend this with our shooters. Maybe sag off on Garza and make him shoot. But, if he can hit from there forget about it -- the offense is going to be good enough to compete with anybody (lookin at you Mich State)

 

[unIowa]

Ahhhhhh, you don't think Fran has possibly thought this through already? He did try to run some high post with Woody but Adam didn't quite have the offensive game to make it work. He certainly had the passing ability but couldn't make a defense consistently pay for either sagging off him or guarding him too tight allowing him to drive by.

 

[HawkNole09]

I know Fran checks the board from time to time. I like to give him nuggets when I can. P

 

[hawk-i bob]

The hi-lo game with Garza at the free throw line and Cook on the blocks. I'm not sure how you begin to defend this with our shooters. Maybe sag off on Garza and make him shoot. But, if he can hit from there forget about it -- the offense is going to be good enough to compete with anybody (lookin at you Mich State)

im sure Fran has...but U are correct...and Cook-Garza is one combo...

OR..
Cook-Kriener
Cook-Nunge
OR..
Pemsl-Garza
Pemsl-Kriener
Pemsl-Nunge

** Kriener has improved his outside shot..

 

[unIowa]

im sure Fran has...but U are correct...and Cook-Garza is one combo...

OR..
Cook-Kriener
Cook-Nunge
OR..
Pemsl-Garza
Pemsl-Kriener
Pemsl-Nunge

** Kriener has improved his outside shot..

I think Kriener has always had a decent shot it just seemed to take quite a bit of time for him to get it off.

 

[CanadaHawk]

The hi-lo game with Garza at the free throw line and Cook on the blocks. I'm not sure how you begin to defend this with our shooters. Maybe sag off on Garza and make him shoot. But, if he can hit from there forget about it -- the offense is going to be good enough to compete with anybody (lookin at you Mich State)

Agree that a frontcourt high-low game with the PF low is likely this year, but pretty sure Fran thought of it some time ago as he recruited players two-deep at the C/PF positions who have the skills to run it: Garza-Kriener/Cook-Pemsl

 

[HawkNole09]

Cook-Pemsl is not a high-lo combo.

Garza and Nunge can both play high.I have no idea if Garza has the court sense to attack off the dribble from that position, but I know he can step into a jumper from that range.

Nunge Cook may be a better high-low depending on how good a passer Nunge is, and how well he finishes around the rim.

 

[CanadaHawk]

Cook-Pemsl is not a high-lo combo.

Garza and Nunge can both play high.I have no idea if Garza has the court sense to attack off the dribble from that position, but I know he can step into a jumper from that range.

Nunge Cook may be a better high-low depending on how good a passer Nunge is, and how well he finishes around the rim.

Garza and Kriener are high post options. Cook and Pemsl are low post options. Obvious from the roster that that's how they were recruited.

 

[HoustonREDHawk]

Pretty sure the coaches are checking out a lot of high-low options, and pick-&-roll options... I think I would vote for Kriener and Cook for high-low and maybe Moss and Wagner for pick & roll... Of course there is always the surprise Ellingson & JBo high-low, which would surprise any opponent.

 

[2432Hawk]

Garza and Kriener are high post options. Cook and Pemsl are low post options. Obvious from the roster that that's how they were recruited.

I think the flexibilty of our bigs will allow us to invert and interchange a lot of high low and pick and roll action.

Pemsl is going to show more to his game this year, having dropped 25lbs. Last year Fran needed him to play "heavier" in the post with Cook as we didn't have many options. With Garza, our forwards will be free to expand their games.

 

[DanHawkPella]

I also get the feeling that Garza will be one of the best post-kickout guys we have, in terms of finding an open perimeter player when the opportunity presents itself. Feels like a high IQ guy. Just feed him from the arc instead of the FT line and give him even more room before the double team, and if it does happen we can make them pay with a 3 from Nunge, Baer or Kreiner. If Cook is down low then Garza can also hit the 3. If Cook feeds the post from the arc he should follow that with a cut to the basket. That type of action should be strong this year.

 

[perryhawk]

Good discussion.

I think what we really see from Cook this year is that he has become almost unstoppable on the block, if he is one on one. That plays perfectly in the high/low game.

If he has improved his free throw shooting and shot from that range we will really be tough to stop.

As Bob stated RK is a serious threat from 15 feet as is Garza....if there is one thing we know for sure about Fran, he can coach offense!

 

[Ronman]

Pemsl is going to show more to his game this year, having dropped 25lbs. Last year Fran needed him to play "heavier" in the post with Cook as we didn't have many options.

Pemsl dropped 25 pounds? I hadn't heard that before. Didn't he play at around 250 last season? So he is down to 225? Hard to believe he would drop so much weight. A lot of his game was based on his rather ample backside which he used to a tremendous advantage.

 

[HoustonREDHawk]

Pemsl dropped 25 pounds? I hadn't heard that before. Didn't he play at around 250 last season? So he is down to 225? Hard to believe he would drop so much weight. A lot of his game was based on his rather ample backside which he used to a tremendous advantage.

Agree that 25 lbs seems like a lot to lose. As long as he can still use his big butt to establish position, it might give him a little more ups to help finish. I really like Pemsl and Cook's low post play, which Iowa hasn't had in a long time.

 

[HawkNole09]

If Cook was a better passer his low post game would be even more dangerous. I feel like he's going to see some double teams.

 

[2432Hawk]

Pemsl dropped 25 pounds? I hadn't heard that before. Didn't he play at around 250 last season? So he is down to 225? Hard to believe he would drop so much weight. A lot of his game was based on his rather ample backside which he used to a tremendous advantage.

Cordell was listed at 249lbs last year, but was really playing at 265lbs. He's dropped 25lbs and is now around 240lbs.

He put on a bunch of weight and not all good last year trying to bulk up to help play the post. He'll show more versitility to his game this year. He's a terrific passer and will bring some playmaking ability facing the basket more.

 

[perryhawk]

If Cook was a better passer his low post game would be even more dangerous. I feel like he's going to see some double teams.

I think, if you watched some games again, you would see that Cook is actually a really good interior passer in just those situations. Not sure about passing it back outside, but interior he is really pretty good.

 

[cleotishaywood]

Hopefully his knees have gotten stronger in the off-season as well and he can improve at the line.

 

[ParkerHawk]

Ahhhhhh, you don't think Fran has possibly thought this through already? He did try to run some high post with Woody but Adam didn't quite have the offensive game to make it work. He certainly had the passing ability but couldn't make a defense consistently pay for either sagging off him or guarding him too tight allowing him to drive by.

Seems like we abused Michigan at their place a few years ago with Woody feeding White and Basabe

 

[kceasthawk]

Seems like we abused Michigan at their place a few years ago with Woody feeding White and Basabe

I think that the point was that we were only marginally effective because Woody wasn't a threat to score from the high post. This is what makes Kreiner, Garza, and Nunge so interesting because their ability to score should pull defenders off the block, allowing Cook and Pemsl to due their damage.

 

[DanL53]

Wisconsin has worked the high low with precision for years. And it is something we now have the talent to work into the motion offense.

But something else is coming as well. Bohannon and Kriener were working hard on pick and roll this summer and they have it down great.

 

[ParkerHawk]

I think that the point was that we were only marginally effective because Woody wasn't a threat to score from the high post. This is what makes Kreiner, Garza, and Nunge so interesting because their ability to score should pull defenders off the block, allowing Cook and Pemsl to due their damage.

Yes, was providing confirmation that Fran has thought of it and that it was only particularly effective for one game in the Woody era.

 

[twindman]

Everyone seems to talk about Garza and threes. I thought I read a while back that he only made 2 of them in high school or PTL or such.

 

[HoustonREDHawk]

I think there are several bigs who can probably shoot the 3 better than Garza. The high part of the high-low doesn't necessarily need to be much beyond the FT line, and Garza does seem to at least have that range.

 

[ICTrojans99]

Everyone seems to talk about Garza and threes. I thought I read a while back that he only made 2 of them in high school or PTL or such.

I think he will shoot some 3's if left wide open. Maybe not early in his career but at some point.