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Don't know about that. What is so hard to evaluate is the cumlative effect of playing these teams especially several in a row. Bama almost never plays a game outside the south in any season and always has a pushover non con game to split up their conference season. This is by design. You really don't think a November game at Happy Valley, of the Shoe, or even a late season night game in Kinnick like the one against PSU years ago where it was about 10 degrees would have any negative effect on their players?1 loss between the two teams.
Exactly. Its not if they could beat those teams, but what if they had them all with several in November if its one of those years where it gets bad and cold early........Great question. Playing at OSU or Michigan in November would be a test for sure. Hell playing Iowa or Wisconsin at night in November as well. All depends on the schedule.
Don't know about that. What is so hard to evaluate is the cumlative effect of playing these teams especially several in a row. Bama almost never plays a game outside the south in any season and always has a pushover non con game to split up their conference season. This is by design. You really don't think a November game at Happy Valley, of the Shoe, or even a late season night game in Kinnick like the one against PSU years ago where it was about 10 degrees would have any negative effect on their players?
Could the Hawks beat either team at a home night game in November?
This may sound crazy but I personally think ISU would have a better chance than Oklahoma. ISU has a good D. Now if their Oline is like last year then blowout. But, Okie has zero defense. Zero. Alabama could have scored 100 if they wanted last year. Was it the first 4 drives were all TD’s then they got complacent. ISU can tackle. I know it sounds nuts but you can’t get in a track meet with those teams. I remember that Miami-ND bowl game a few years back and it was cold as hell and Miami wanted zero to do with tackling. I know Alabama and Clemson are different but wind and about 15 degrees and spitting snow would be interesting.
Yes, you’re crazy. ISU’s offense was ranked in the 80’s last year, similar to Miss St, but their defense wasn’t nearly as good. Alabama beat MSU 24-0 last year. Maybe a similar type of ballgame but the margin would be wider.
The same ISU that scored 3 against Iowa.
Somewhat agree. With those MONSTER 2017 and 2018 classes, OSU has as much talent as anybody in the country. And even though they only had 17 recruits in their 2019 class, they had the 3rd highest average/recruit (all from 247 Sports). Urban left that program in super great shape.Only OSU might split.
And should've lost to DrakeThe same ISU that scored 3 against Iowa.
Like Riley at Oklahoma. Great offensive mind. Dynamic QB. But their defense was borderline embarrassing. They had the talent but it was as if no one taught them how to tackle.Somewhat agree. With those MONSTER 2017 and 2018 classes, OSU has as much talent as anybody in the country. And even though they only had 17 recruits in their 2019 class, they had the 3rd highest average/recruit (all from 247 Sports). Urban left that program in super great shape.
With that said, Ryan Day is no Urban Meyer. Yes, he's a dynamic offensive coach but let's wait and see how 2019 turns out for OSU and Day. Their defense in 2017 and 2018 SUCKED. He better improve that part of OSU's play or they could be in for a long season. Not saying they'll fold up or anything as - like it or not - OSU will always be good.
You're spot on about their defense. Their defensive results over the last couple of years was almost criminal considering the talent on that unit. The difference between Urban and Saban was that Urban hired friends and relatives and stuck with them no matter what.....Schiano, Bill Davis (his best man), and of course everyone dip$hit - Zach Smith who was Earle Bruce's grandson. Saban will fire an assistant in a heartbeat. The first thing Day did when he took over was force out the entire defensive staff out (except Larry Johnson).Like Riley at Oklahoma. Great offensive mind. Dynamic QB. But their defense was borderline embarrassing. They had the talent but it was as if no one taught them how to tackle.
If Iowa can win the West it might be the year to upset OSU in Day's first year. Assuming OSU wins the division.
Great question. Playing at OSU or Michigan in November would be a test for sure. Hell playing Iowa or Wisconsin at night in November as well. All depends on the schedule.
Could they? Absolutely. Just ask OSU......Could the Hawks beat either team at a home night game in November?
Agree, any decent program has a shot at the premier ones (Bama, Clemson, Georgia, Oklahoma, OSU etc...) at home. I believe Bama lost 2 years in a row to Mississippi (or maybe Mississippi State) during the 2013 era (or around there) which was kind of shocking but Mississippi had some decent talent. No team is unbeatable.Could they? Absolutely. Just ask OSU......
This, and Iowa has been known to unleash some Kinnick magic on heavy favorites at home, especially after the frost has been on the old pumpkin. Don't take Meyer and his confused look for it, ask Michigan or top 5 ranked PSU a couple of times.......Agree, any decent program has a shot at the premier ones (Bama, Clemson, Georgia, Oklahoma, OSU etc...) at home. I believe Bama lost 2 years in a row to Mississippi (or maybe Mississippi State) during the 2013 era (or around there) which was kind of shocking but Mississippi had some decent talent. No team is unbeatable.
Not sure that either would be bowl elgible.What would their records be? Split home and away evenly. For this exercise? Thoughts?
I forgot that ISU scored 3 against us.The same ISU that scored 3 against Iowa.
Lightning strikes are a funny thing.I forgot that ISU scored 3 against us.
Good for them.
You thought ISU would score zero against us last year also?Lightning strikes are a funny thing.
You're spot on about their defense. Their defensive results over the last couple of years was almost criminal considering the talent on that unit. The difference between Urban and Saban was that Urban hired friends and relatives and stuck with them no matter what.....Schiano, Bill Davis (his best man), and of course everyone dip$hit - Zach Smith who was Earle Bruce's grandson. Saban will fire an assistant in a heartbeat. The first thing Day did when he took over was force out the entire defensive staff out (except Larry Johnson).
The B1G will be interesting this year as I believe it is as wide open as it's been in awhile. And yes, the West could very well win the conference. Michigan and PSU will be definite players in the East as well. I still think OSU will be the favorite but maybe just a slight favorite unlike in past years
Tua (Bama) was 14 - 21 for 164 yards 1 TD 1 Pick vs Miss State at home in Nov 2018.
Nate Stanley was 21 - 31 for 214 yards 3 TDs and 1 Pick in the bowl game.
Main difference was Bama had a run game against MSU and Hawks did not.
Just a common opponent from last season.
Stanley and Tua should be front runners for the Heisman this year.Had Iowa been able to run, Stanley’s line probably mirrors Tua’s line.