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If OSU beats UW and is left out of the playoff, it will be due to the stupid 9 conf game decision

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SEC teams have the advantage playing only 8 conf games. If OSU played Akron at home instead of Iowa on the road( 9th conf game), they would probably be sitting at #1 in the playoff standings now with only the early loss to OU. Michigan was left out of last years playoff due to the stupid 9 game conf schedule. If they played Akron at home instead of at Iowa, they would have been in the playoff last year. We’ll wait and see, but if OSU beats Wisky, the winner of Auburn/UGA will make the playoff and Bama will probably sneak in despite OSU playing 10 conference games compared to Bama’s 8. GO BACK TO 8 CONFERENCE GAMES UNLESS ALL CONFERENCES GO TO 9!
 
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SEC teams have the advantage playing only 8 conf games. If OSU played Akron at home instead of Iowa on the road( 9th conf game), they would probably be sitting at #1 in the playoff standings now with only the early loss to OU. Michigan was left out of last years playoff due to the stupid 9 game conf schedule. If they played Akron at home instead of at Iowa, they would have been in the playoff last year. We’ll wait and see, but if OSU beats Wisky, the winner of Auburn/UGA will make the playoff and Bama will probably sneak in despite OSU playing 10 conference games compared to Bama’s 8. GO BACK TO 8 CONFERENCE GAMES UNLESS ALL CONFERENCES GO TO 9!
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Seems to me the real problem is teams playing those damn Hawkeyes. You can even go to 2015, if Iowa would have beat Michgan State we wouldn't have seen Michigan State in the playoffs either. Screw Iowa; always ruining the B10's playoff dreams.
 
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The way Alabama schedules, the extra non-conference game is like a bye week. They should take tOSU over Alabama if they win, much tougher schedule and conference champ.

tOSU would have 3 wins over top 15 teams vs 0 for Alabama. Also, we could say we beat the hell out of a playoff team.
 
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I almost have a feeling Bama will be in the playoffs regardless, seems like there anointed as a playoff team before the season even begins. tOSU I think is the same, even with a pair of losses, I see committee members pulling out there hair trying to figure a way to add them. Of course, tOSU didn't do themselves any favors getting blasted by Iowa. ;)
 
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SEC teams have the advantage playing only 8 conf games. If OSU played Akron at home instead of Iowa on the road( 9th conf game), they would probably be sitting at #1 in the playoff standings now with only the early loss to OU. Michigan was left out of last years playoff due to the stupid 9 game conf schedule. If they played Akron at home instead of at Iowa, they would have been in the playoff last year. We’ll wait and see, but if OSU beats Wisky, the winner of Auburn/UGA will make the playoff and Bama will probably sneak in despite OSU playing 10 conference games compared to Bama’s 8. GO BACK TO 8 CONFERENCE GAMES UNLESS ALL CONFERENCES GO TO 9!
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I agree and get what you are saying. As we always hear people complain here now about Iowa's non conference and scheduling a 2nd power 5 there are some like myself who point to SEC and how many of them schedule 3 cupcake no power 5 every year including Alabama who with FSU being down should be left out. If Iowa did get a 2nd power 5 team on top of ISU we'd have 11 of 12 games vs power 5 and SEC like this year would have 11 of 14 teams play only 1 power 5 team non conf and 9 overall. In 2016 only Georgia scheduled 2 non conference games vs power 5 teams and one is because they always play Ga Tech at end of the year.
 
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The severity of which Iowa spanked tOSU should keep them out of the playoffs. Their loss to Oklahoma is much more understandable since the Sooners are in the discussion for the playoffs also.

I will be very disappointed if either Alabama or tOSU gets in. I'm hoping Wisconsin plays defense like they did against Iowa and shuts down the Buckeyes. I'm predicting Wisconsin, Oklahoma, Clemson, and Auburn.
 
A few years ago the SEC teams got by with the argument that they might not have the greatest OOC schedule, but they made up for it with surviving the toughest Conference in College football. That however is not a given every year, and it’s certainly not the case this year. There’s also never excuse for Alabama to be playing Mercer, especially in November.

As far as a team should be in or out because of conference championships, two losses, who a team beat, or who a team lost to, are all factors, but there is no direct formula that says if this happens, then the result should be....

The playoff system that we have with the committee is purely a subjective system. Therefore, there is no right or wrong decision, just a decision. So if OSU gets in it’s neither right nor wrong. Same could be said if it’s Alabama, TCU, or UCF. It’s just the decision.
 
Wisconsin is gonna eviscerate osu. I don't expect any hand-wringing required for a playoffspot.
Aside: That loss to msu in 2015 was the worst.
 
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SEC teams have the advantage playing only 8 conf games. If OSU played Akron at home instead of Iowa on the road( 9th conf game), they would probably be sitting at #1 in the playoff standings now with only the early loss to OU. Michigan was left out of last years playoff due to the stupid 9 game conf schedule. If they played Akron at home instead of at Iowa, they would have been in the playoff last year. We’ll wait and see, but if OSU beats Wisky, the winner of Auburn/UGA will make the playoff and Bama will probably sneak in despite OSU playing 10 conference games compared to Bama’s 8. GO BACK TO 8 CONFERENCE GAMES UNLESS ALL CONFERENCES GO TO 9!
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What stretched logic. To make this work you have to complain about the Iowa game specifically, as if that somehow is the magic game off the schedule, instead of realizing that the two teams rarely played in last decade anyways. Wisconsin's problem is weak scheduling, and yet if they get bounced you are blaming too strong of scheduling.
 
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SEC teams have the advantage playing only 8 conf games. If OSU played Akron at home instead of Iowa on the road( 9th conf game), they would probably be sitting at #1 in the playoff standings now with only the early loss to OU. Michigan was left out of last years playoff due to the stupid 9 game conf schedule. If they played Akron at home instead of at Iowa, they would have been in the playoff last year. We’ll wait and see, but if OSU beats Wisky, the winner of Auburn/UGA will make the playoff and Bama will probably sneak in despite OSU playing 10 conference games compared to Bama’s 8. GO BACK TO 8 CONFERENCE GAMES UNLESS ALL CONFERENCES GO TO 9!
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I don't mean to burst your bubble, but if Michigan had played Akron instead of Iowa, they would've been 8-1 in conference with a loss to OSU, who was also 8-1 and beat them. It would have been a 3 way tie for first between Penn State, Ohio State and Michigan. Ohio State would have won that tiebreaker and been in the BIG Championship Game. They would have played Wisconsin, probably won and no one would be having this conversation because they would be a 1 loss Conference Champion who deserved to be in
 
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I agree with the analysis, but 9 conf games, while more enjoyable for fans, is a disadvantage regarding the playoffs when compared with the SEC only playing 8.
 
It doesn't bother me if Big ten team gets left out. I don't think OSU would deserve to get it over Bama. But I think Wisconsin beats OSU.
 
mrcyfan said:
The severity of which Iowa spanked tOSU should keep them out of the playoffs. Their loss to Oklahoma is much more understandable since the Sooners are in the discussion for the playoffs also.

I will be very disappointed if either Alabama or tOSU gets in. I'm hoping Wisconsin plays defense like they did against Iowa and shuts down the Buckeyes. I'm predicting Wisconsin, Oklahoma, Clemson, and Auburn.
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But Clemson losing to a (4-8) Syracuse is a non factor?

I feel dirty saying this, but I think Alabama deserves to be in over Clemson. A loss at Auburn isn’t a huge loss, but they don’t have any quality W’s.
 
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But Clemson losing to a (4-8) Syracuse is a non factor?

I feel dirty saying this, but I think Alabama deserves to be in over Clemson. A loss at Auburn isn’t a huge loss, but they don’t have any quality W’s.
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Committee cares more about who you beat than who you lost to. Clemson beat Auburn, right?
 
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The only way the nine-game conference schedule could have hurt Ohio State is if Iowa had been the ninth team that OSU otherwise wouldn't have had to play. Ohio State losing to an 8th-place B10 team (overall standings) by a 55-24 score is why they won't make the playoffs. if they wanted to make the final four then they should have been ready to play Iowa. They failed, they don't deserve to go.
 
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Eternal Return said:
The only way the nine-game conference schedule could have hurt Ohio State is if Iowa had been the ninth team that OSU otherwise wouldn't have had to play. Ohio State losing to an 8th-place B10 team (overall standings) by a 55-24 score is why they won't make the playoffs. if they wanted to make the final four then they should have been ready to play Iowa. They failed, they don't deserve to go.[/QUOTE
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iahawks10 said:
But Clemson losing to a (4-8) Syracuse is a non factor?

I feel dirty saying this, but I think Alabama deserves to be in over Clemson. A loss at Auburn isn’t a huge loss, but they don’t have any quality W’s.
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Clemson's starting QB got knocked out that game in the first half, and they still almost won. A computer would look at it as a loss with no bias, but to real eyes it's certainly an asterisk that would give them the edge on other one loss teams. Clemson should be in for sure if they win the ACC and that one game is their only loss.
 
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mrcyfan said:
The severity of which Iowa spanked tOSU should keep them out of the playoffs. Their loss to Oklahoma is much more understandable since the Sooners are in the discussion for the playoffs also.

I will be very disappointed if either Alabama or tOSU gets in. I'm hoping Wisconsin plays defense like they did against Iowa and shuts down the Buckeyes. I'm predicting Wisconsin, Oklahoma, Clemson, and Auburn.
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any team that loses to isu should be automatically eliminated!
 
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But Clemson losing to a (4-8) Syracuse is a non factor?

I feel dirty saying this, but I think Alabama deserves to be in over Clemson. A loss at Auburn isn’t a huge loss, but they don’t have any quality W’s.
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It was a 3 point loss w/o their starting qb who has returned.
Bama lost at the end of the year by double digits. They have no reason to say they are better than auburn and no reason to be in the playoffs.
 
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You must be thinking about our basketball program.
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That was a good one.

But I got a better one for you.....

Iowa > Iowa State. Deal with it.



Btw, yes I was saying you were wrong to think the Big Ten needs to go back to 8 games, and that it cost Ohio State a shot at the title. F*** Ohio State.

You are correct, though, to suggest that all conferences should do this, but that's on the SEC.
 
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I would say Alabama doesn’t deserve to go because not only did they not win their conference, they didn’t win their division. They’re schedule was very week and their best win was Mississippi St. Not impressive.
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I agree with you. As of now, it should be Oklahoma if they win the CCG, Miami or Clemson (whichever one wins the CCG), Auburn or Georgia if they win their CCG, Wisconsin if they win the CCG, or USC if they win their CCG. As of now there are only two absolutely sure things that will happen: Auburn or Georgia will go and Clemson or Miami will go. For Ohio State to go they have to win, Oklahoma has to lose, USC needs to lose, and/or the CFP has to think a two-loss B10 champ with a horrible loss is better than a one-loss Alabama team. A lot of things have to go their way. It still could happen, but I think Wisconsin could very well win that game. Ohio State hasn't seen a defense like that all year. Main issue is whether Hornibrook can stop throwing INTs. Honestly, I hope OSU and UW figure out a way to embarrass themselves no matter who wins. I hate both of those teams so I want them left out of the CFP.
 
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