In 25 years what has actually been accomplished?

[ButtersHawk]

Honest question?

Tons of outright championships?
Impressive BCS Bowl wins?
Playoff appearances?
Fun and exciting product to watch?
Revolving door of coordinators being so good they take HC positions?

 

[JLDHAWK]

He's Horrible at clock management. QB choices that makes you scratch your head. Conservative to a fault. Stubborn.

 

[Scott559]

I guess the question is what are your realistic expectations?

 

[ButtersHawk]

Forgot to add for the 2010 Orange Bowl crowd. The triple option offense has a history of being stopped by teams coming off byes and time to prepare. Tom Osbourne has a losing bowl record.

 

[stanzithemanzi12]

Honest question?

Tons of outright championships?
Impressive BCS Bowl wins?
Playoff appearances?
Fun and exciting product to watch?
Revolving door of coordinators being so good they take HC positions?

A lot more than most programs.

 

[markfromj]

Kirk has delivered to me a huge number of glorious wins.

 

[jhawk23]

Orange bowl champions!

 

[ButtersHawk]

A lot more than most programs.

Those programs let a guy hang around for 25 years also?

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Honest question?

Tons of outright championships?
Impressive BCS Bowl wins?
Playoff appearances?
Fun and exciting product to watch?
Revolving door of coordinators being so good they take HC positions?

2002-2004 was an impressive three-year run.

2009 was the last year Iowa had a legitimate top ten team.

Beyond that, a lot of mediocrity inflated by the Big Ten West. 2015 was the fake ID season, so….yeah, I would say it’s been 15 years since Kirk did something significant.

 

[LetsGoHawks83]

2 B1G championships
Orange Bowl win

Thems the accomplishments. Been 15 years since that Orange Bowl season...

Plenty of exciting individual games and players. Not much to show for it in 15 years.

ITS BEYOND TIME

 

[fivecardstud14]

A lot more than most programs.

It makes so much sense you’re an irrational Ferentz lover.

 

[stanzithemanzi12]

2002-2004 was an impressive three-year run.

2009 was the last year Iowa had a legitimate top ten team.

Beyond that, a lot of mediocrity inflated by the Big Ten West. 2015 was the fake ID season, so….yeah, I would say it’s been 15 years since Kirk did something significant.

I think Holiday Bowl winning team over USC was pretty legit too. Covid year team could have been great as well.

 

[MeetTheFerentzes]

KF has worked hard collecting twice as many losses as Woody Hayes.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

I guess the question is what are your realistic expectations?

For me, to have a coach who is not comfortable with being atrocious on offense and has the stones to play to win.

Bad games happen. Bad losses happen. But year after year of the same garbage tendencies and the same garbage approach to offense with no serious attempts to make actual changes is not acceptable.

 

[stanzithemanzi12]

It makes so much sense you’re an irrational Ferentz lover.

Nebraska hasn't been to a bowl game since 2016.

USC is 3-4, 1-4 in conference.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

I think Holiday Bowl winning team over USC was pretty legit too. Covid year team could have been great as well.

I have always said KF should have retired after the Holiday Bowl.

 

[HawkBall23]

Other than the choke vs ISU and getting completely dominated after opening kickoff return vs USC in the Orange Bowl, that 2002 season was pure fangasmic.

Aside from a couple other pretty good seasons (& another shared regular season crown), Kirk rode that to a lifetime contract.


And the program has been stuck in a rut for a long, looong time now because of Bowlsby & Barta's lack of good business sense.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Nebraska hasn't been to a bowl game since 2016.

USC is 3-4, 1-4 in conference.

Relevance?

 

[redghost1974]

2 B1G championships
Orange Bowl win

Thems the accomplishments. Been 15 years since that Orange Bowl season...

Plenty of exciting individual games and players. Not much to show for it in 15 years.

ITS BEYOND TIME

Not belittling them, but he has never own an outright B1G championship, shared doesn't really count.

 

[QChawks]

We beat a lot of bad big ten teams

 

[dbleagle1]

Nebraska hasn't been to a bowl game since 2016.

USC is 3-4, 1-4 in conference.

Just like I have to tell my children, worry about yourselves and not others.

 

[2D_]

Kirk has a lot of accomplishments from wins against top 10 programs, a few shared B1G titles, a runner up Heisman, award winners for multiple positions, and a consistent pipeline to the NFL. But the game has passed him by. You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. Kirk and his philosophies have become the villain.

 

[TampaHawkfan]

Very little since the orange bowl 15 years ago.

 

[Zooropa_NCR]

For me, to have a coach who is not comfortable with being atrocious on offense and has the stones to play to win.

Bad games happen. Bad losses happen. But year after year of the same garbage tendencies and the same garbage approach to offense with no serious attempts to make actual changes is not acceptable.

This is where I’m at

I’m not as attached to the outcome anymore. I want Iowa to win but if they don’t it’s OK….

But the last 5-6 years has been atrocious to watch. The wins feel like losses in that Iowa finds some lucky bounce or odd play to win. Defense scores. Special team scores. An offense that can’t do anything breaks a big play….

I want to see competency. Watching Iowa play offense is like watching a team of newborns try to walk. Like they’re trying really hard, maximum effort and they either fail immediately or best case they take a small step

No other program I’ve seen has this much trouble throwing a football. None.

There is something broken with Kirk and the offense.

We are lucky (or maybe unlucky) that KJ is a stud and gets us any momentum and points

 

[blhawk]

I think Holiday Bowl winning team over USC was pretty legit too. Covid year team could have been great as well.

Legit teams don't end up in the Holiday Bowl unless you are going by Iowa State standards

 

[HawkRose]

Not belittling them, but he has never own an outright B1G championship, shared doesn't really count.

Had a chance in 2009 but had the team take a knee at midfield at the shoe. I’ve been off the bandwagon since.

 

[MAXIMUSHAWKEYE]

Other than the choke vs ISU and getting completely dominated after opening kickoff return vs USC in the Orange Bowl, that 2002 season was pure fangasmic.

Aside from a couple other pretty good seasons (& another shared regular season crown), Kirk rode that to a lifetime contract.


And the program has been stuck in a rut for a long, looong time now because of Bowlsby & Barta's lack of good business sense.

Barta got taken to the woodshed by KF. Who else would hire KF?

 

[WestIAHawk]

Hmmmmm, he's been ok but the real question should be has he been worth the millions he's been paid?

HELL NO!!!!!!!!!

 

[IndisputableEvidence]

This is where I’m at

I’m not as attached to the outcome anymore. I want Iowa to win but if they don’t it’s OK….

But the last 5-6 years has been atrocious to watch. The wins feel like losses in that Iowa finds some lucky bounce or odd play to win. Defense scores. Special team scores. An offense that can’t do anything breaks a big play….

I want to see competency. Watching Iowa play offense is like watching a team of newborns try to walk. Like they’re trying really hard, maximum effort and they either fail immediately or best case they take a small step

No other program I’ve seen has this much trouble throwing a football. None.

There is something broken with Kirk and the offense.

We are lucky (or maybe unlucky) that KJ is a stud and gets us any momentum and points

This sums it up pretty well for me. “The wins can feel like losses”

It’s a game, let’s just try to make it fun again…I’d rather see aggressive mistakes

 

[Iron Doc]

Honest question?

Tons of outright championships?
Impressive BCS Bowl wins?
Playoff appearances?
Fun and exciting product to watch?
Revolving door of coordinators being so good they take HC positions?

None of the above for The Capt.

 

[Jimmy McGill]

A lot has been accomplished. But Iowa fans have elevated their expectations of a program that clearly has a coach that "levels" expectations

 

[hawkdave007]

For a D1 FBS program, has any head coach ever kept his job for 20 years after his last conference title?

Ever?

 

[Jimmy McGill]

Kirk doesn't like change. Well guess what Kirk, forget about the NIL/portal changes.....you are about to get your ass kicked on a regular basis every time you head out to the west coast.

 

[LetsGoHawks83]

Barta got taken to the woodshed by KF. Who else would hire KF?

Yep. Barta was scared sh*tless with the thought of actually having to hire a head football coach, if Kirk left for the.... Oh yeah, he wouldn't have left.

Last contact should have been.... 4 mil a year, take it or effing leave it. You really think Kirk would have left, when he was actively try to position his son to take over as head coach?

Freaking Barta

 

[Garbanzo Joe]

Forgot to add for the 2010 Orange Bowl crowd. The triple option offense has a history of being stopped by teams coming off byes and time to prepare. Tom Osbourne has a losing bowl record.

Yet I would love it if Iowa would just embraced it and run it because they cant throw a flippin forward pass to save their life.

 

[Iafootballfan]

Iowa meet Utah, Utah - this is Iowa.

 

[LetsGoHawks83]

For a D1 FBS program, has any head coach ever kept his job for 20 years after his last conference title?

Ever?

Another one for the Kirk record book. Hang the banner

 

[the24fan]

Yep. Barta was scared sh*tless with the thought of actually having to hire a head football coach, if Kirk left for the.... Oh yeah, he wouldn't have left.

Last contact should have been.... 4 mil a year, take it or effing leave it. You really think Kirk would have left, when he was actively try to position his son to take over as head coach?

Freaking Barta

 

[IndisputableEvidence]

A lot has been accomplished. But Iowa fans have elevated their expectations of a program that clearly has a coach that "levels" expectations

I don’t even know if elevated expectations is correct. I would rather take a short term step back if it meant we were fun to watch again.

It’s sort of like “Lickball” even if Todd L would have been successful at Iowa, I don’t know that it would have been enjoyable. I just want football to be fun again, rather than gouging my eyes out hoping the special teams blocks an extra point for a two point conversion to win and then pretend that everything was according to plan when our coach says, “that’s football”.

That’s really all I want…

 

[Dr. Phil Seuss]

Yep. Barta was scared sh*tless with the thought of actually having to hire a head football coach, if Kirk left for the.... Oh yeah, he wouldn't have left.

Last contact should have been.... 4 mil a year, take it or effing leave it. You really think Kirk would have left, when he was actively try to position his son to take over as head coach?

Freaking Barta

Gary Barta is a POS for the contracts he dished to KF and FMC.