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In Reversal, Trump Suspends Most New Tariffs on Mexico Until April 2

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President Trump wrote on social media that he was suspending tariffs on most imports from Mexico until April 2. Mr. Trump announced the exemption, on goods covered by a trade pact he signed in his first term, after a call with President Claudia Sheinbaum of Mexico. The reversal came just two days after he imposed tariffs of 25 percent on goods coming into the United States from Mexico and Canada, sparking a trade fight with two of the country’s closest economic partners. Read more ›
 
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Trump's tariffs are spooking the stock market as investors
are pulling back and watching stocks plunge. The U.S, economy
will not survive a tariff war with our allies Canada and Mexico.
Trump is too ignorant and egotistical to understand the stupidity
of his tariffs. Our nation does not need a recession due to his
ineptness and lack of intelligence.
 
Do you think it's weird that you just have to guess?
I was only chiming in to provide a reason for the change... you know like when Harris was for banning fracking then in love with fracking...

It's not like we haven't seen results at the border (Illegal crossings down like 95%) Trump seems to be governing with both the carrot and the stick. We're just used to giving everyone the carrot with no stick. Those days ended on Jan 20
 
I was only chiming in to provide a reason for the change... you know like when Harris was for banning fracking then in love with fracking...

It's not like we haven't seen results at the border (Illegal crossings down like 95%) Trump seems to be governing with both the carrot and the stick. We're just used to giving everyone the carrot with no stick. Those days ended on Jan 20
Another perspective could be Trump is having enough trouble with Canada and the Auto industry. Without dealing with Mexico.
Or perhaps the bureaucracy can’t keep up with all of the changes that seem to happen every hour. But you could be right.
 
I was only chiming in to provide a reason for the change... you know like when Harris was for banning fracking then in love with fracking...

It's not like we haven't seen results at the border (Illegal crossings down like 95%) Trump seems to be governing with both the carrot and the stick. We're just used to giving everyone the carrot with no stick. Those days ended on Jan 20

I can appreciate that you want a reason to explain the on, off, on again, off again approach to tariffs. It suggests that you realize it's not a good look to just blindly follow whatever the leader does, that's what cultists do. I can also appreciate that you're used to using your imagination, so guessing at a reason is probably not all that uncomfortable for you.

However, for others, it'd be nice to know the strategy. What are we trying to achieve? How are we measuring it? The relationships between cause and effect. Those sorts of things. That doesn't seem like too much to ask considering the impacts of the tariffs.
 
Now you’re criticizing him for altering what you were criticizing him of before. There really is nothing you won’t complain about, is there? I can only imagine how y’all angrily shook your fist as that boy battling cancer was praised for his resilience.
 
I can appreciate that you want a reason to explain the on, off, on again, off again approach to tariffs. It suggests that you realize it's not a good look to just blindly follow whatever the leader does, that's what cultists do. I can also appreciate that you're used to using your imagination, so guessing at a reason is probably not all that uncomfortable for you.

However, for others, it'd be nice to know the strategy. What are we trying to achieve? How are we measuring it? The relationships between cause and effect. Those sorts of things. That doesn't seem like too much to ask considering the impacts of the tariffs.
It's not a good look to make threats and not follow through on them. It sends a dangerous signal to people who we aren't on great terms with.

However, since I haven't been on the phone calls with them, or in the meetings with them and the Trump administration officials, it's impossible to give you a reason beyond a guess.

I did provide one measure of success and that is the reported numbers at the southern border. That COULD explain the change in policy with Mexico... But I don't know.
 
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Now you’re criticizing him for altering what you were criticizing him of before. There really is nothing you won’t complain about, is there? I can only imagine how y’all angrily shook your fist as that boy battling cancer was praised for his resilience.
That's what TDS looks like.

GASP - Donald Trump wants to use tariffs to negotiate a political outcome! The horror!

GASP- Donald Trump is not using tariffs to negotiate a political outcome! The madness!
 
Do you think it's weird that you just have to guess?
bingo. If I can't find anyone with any sort of inside information or real insight into a "strategy" I have to conclude that there is none.

Especially considering the source making these decisions. Trump has long been known as mercurial figure that acts on impulse rather than careful planning.
 
It's not a good look to make threats and not follow through on them. It sends a dangerous signal to people who we aren't on great terms with.

However, since I haven't been on the phone calls with them, or in the meetings with them and the Trump administration officials, it's impossible to give you a reason beyond a guess.

I did provide one measure of success and that is the reported numbers at the southern border. That COULD explain the change in policy with Mexico... But I don't know.

Maybe he'll explain it when the April deadline comes around next month.

What do you make of this part of Trump's statement: “After speaking with President Claudia Sheinbaum of Mexico, I have agreed that Mexico will not be required to pay Tariffs on anything that falls under the USMCA Agreement,”

Do you think he's ignorant of how tariffs work, a deliberate lie, or something else?
 
I think the market is beginning to ignore Trump's tarriff "pauses" as he loses any credibility. It only adds to the uncertainty. I think the market is now beginning to focus attention towards an economic downturn and a potential period of stagflation should things really go sideways.
 
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That's what TDS looks like.

GASP - Donald Trump wants to use tariffs to negotiate a political outcome! The horror!

GASP- Donald Trump is not using tariffs to negotiate a political outcome! The madness!
A lot of us aren't against intelligent uses of tariffs. A lot of us also doubt Trump is using them intelligently.

TDS, one could say, is also spinning up excuses and explanations for Trump's erratic and nonsensical decision making. "Sanewashing" as they say.
 
Maybe he'll explain it when the April deadline comes around next month.

What do you make of this part of Trump's statement: “After speaking with President Claudia Sheinbaum of Mexico, I have agreed that Mexico will not be required to pay Tariffs on anything that falls under the USMCA Agreement,”

Do you think he's ignorant of how tariffs work, a deliberate lie, or something else?
I've done all the speculating I'm willing to do on this topic. I'm not the president, a member of his administration, or even a friend or confidant of his, and likely nobody here is either.

We're all either guessing or relying on what we're being told from someone else who also likely suffers from TDS.
 
Trump needs to get over his love for tariffs and how he is misusing them as a negotiating tactic for activities having nothing to do with trade.
I think it stems from
A) tariffs being a lever the executive can easily pull that has immediate consequences, thus Trump feeling powerful and
B) Trump's long standing position of America being "screwed over" by the rest of world economically. (you'll find old clips of him stating as much in the 80s)
 
I've done all the speculating I'm willing to do on this topic. I'm not the president, a member of his administration, or even a friend or confidant of his, and likely nobody here is either.

We're all either guessing or relying on what we're being told from someone else who also likely suffers from TDS.

I don't blame you. It's a persistent theme with Trump: Ignorance or deliberate lies? It could be either. Will the tariffs go into effect or will they be paused? It could be either. Do we know why? No, but we can guess!

The cultists will follow either way, sort of like your post about what TDS looks like.
 
I think it stems from
A) tariffs being a lever the executive can easily pull that has immediate consequences, thus Trump feeling powerful and
B) Trump's long standing position of America being "screwed over" by the rest of world economically. (you'll find old clips of him stating as much in the 80s)

And I suspect a profound ignorance of how tariffs actually work, and the global nature of economic systems.
 
bingo. If I can't find anyone with any sort of inside information or real insight into a "strategy" I have to conclude that there is none.

Especially considering the source making these decisions. Trump has long been known as mercurial figure that acts on impulse rather than careful planning.
This all should have been gamed out. What can Canada do to hurt us immediately. Trump obviously felt they couldn’t or wouldn’t do anything.
 
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I think the market is beginning to ignore Trump's tarriff "pauses" as he loses any credibility. It only adds to the uncertainty. I think the market is now beginning to focus attention towards an economic downturn and a potential period of stagflation should things really go sideways.
Wasn't the dow up almost 500 pts. yesterday?
 
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