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Inflation Comes in at 8.6%

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Where are those who were trying to tell me it was on the way down last month ? Just need to remind them that this report is not meaningful by itself, either. However, the last 3-4 prints are making it look like we're stuck in the 8% range. Until we do something on energy we will continue with high inflation, imo. It sounds to me like Biden is not interested in that. Welcome back, Carter.
 
Not looking for political pot shots here, but what can be done policy wise to correct this? Besides the Fed raising interest rates to 15% or whatever like they did in the 70's and bring the economy to a screeching halt.
 
6% percent when not counting Gas and Food

Gas prices increased 48.7% annually while grocery prices rose 11.9% over the past year.
 
Not looking for political pot shots here, but what can be done policy wise to correct this? Besides the Fed raising interest rates to 15% or whatever like they did in the 70's and bring the economy to a screeching halt.
Quit telling the world it’s trillion dollar deficits forever forward.
 
Not looking for political pot shots here, but what can be done policy wise to correct this? Besides the Fed raising interest rates to 15% or whatever like they did in the 70's and bring the economy to a screeching halt.
Increase energy production, stop fighting energy development, and signal the government will be friendly to fossil fuels and its development in the future.
 
Not looking for political pot shots here, but what can be done policy wise to correct this? Besides the Fed raising interest rates to 15% or whatever like they did in the 70's and bring the economy to a screeching halt.
We are a consumer economy and people are still buying even with rising prices. That will continue until people stop buying. Lowering prices when there is heavy demand is counter to basic economics. Buying of discretionary items will eventually slow as prices rise. Retailers are already starting to see this a bit.
 
Not looking for political pot shots here, but what can be done policy wise to correct this? Besides the Fed raising interest rates to 15% or whatever like they did in the 70's and bring the economy to a screeching halt.
From what I've been reading it's going to take some stark action by the Fed....bigger bumps to the interest rate. Which means recession and a bump in unemployment....which means they'll keep with the small bumps and inflation will persist.
 
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We are a consumer economy and people are still buying even with rising prices. That will continue until people stop buying. Lowering prices when there is heavy demand is counter to basic economics. Buying of discretionary items will eventually slow as prices rise. Retailers are already starting to see this a bit.
Yes the stores are likely intentionally causing shortages as well. Price gouging has been going on for over a year. Republicans don’t want Biden and Warren to stop the gouging.
 
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Not looking for political pot shots here, but what can be done policy wise to correct this? Besides the Fed raising interest rates to 15% or whatever like they did in the 70's and bring the economy to a screeching halt.
How about being honest with the American people? When you say fighting inflation is your number one priority, but you are pushing for initiatives like student loan debt forgiveness and Build Back Better. Manchin shut that down, not because he didn’t like a lot of it, but because of inflation. He could see all this coming last fall. We need someone like him running the country. Not the current or previous guy.
 
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We are a consumer economy and people are still buying even with rising prices. That will continue until people stop buying. Lowering prices when there is heavy demand is counter to basic economics. Buying of discretionary items will eventually slow as prices rise. Retailers are already starting to see this a bit.
Derp.
The lower 90% fall deeper into debt trying just to consume at the rate they had, while the top 10% see their assets rise and the inflation hastens the wealth disparity.
Inflation is a society wrecking policy.

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How about being honest with the American people? When you say fighting inflation is your number one priority, but you are pushing for initiatives like student loan debt forgiveness and Build Back Better. Manchin shut that down, not because he didn’t like a lot of it, but because of inflation. He could see all this coming last fall.
None of this addresses the problem.
 
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Increase energy production, stop fighting energy development, and signal the government will be friendly to fossil fuels and its development in the future.
Energy is going to have to be a mix (wind, solar, nuclear, fossil, etc). We need the EO's that were signed day 1 to be reversed and let American mfg's keep pumping oil (our companies do it cleaner than anyone else). After we get the inflation under control and we re-establish being independent for fuels, then we start blending in the other means of energy.

This admin is a shite hole and is doing nothing to better America.
 
Increase energy production, stop fighting energy development, and signal the government will be friendly to fossil fuels and its development in the future.
I can see how increasing energy production would help, but we'd have to make up the difference of what Russia is not providing and what OPEC is doing. I suppose getting them to increase production could help, but it doesn't seem that they are reacting to the same methods they have in the past. Probably because Saudi Arabia knows that if the US withdrew it's military presence China would be more than happy to move in and take over the country's defense. We don't have the leverage with them that we used to have.

The long term plan would be to put converting our economy to make it far less fossil fuel dependent, but that doesn't fix the problem in the short term.
 
Energy is going to have to be a mix (wind, solar, nuclear, fossil, etc). We need the EO's that were signed day 1 to be reversed and let American mfg's keep pumping oil (our companies do it cleaner than anyone else). After we get the inflation under control and we re-establish being independent for fuels, then we start blending in the other means of energy.

This admin is a shite hole and is doing nothing to better America.
Your post would have been good if you could have resisted putting that pointless last line to it.
 
This doesn't address the problem. Reducing the deficit is one thing Biden has been highly successful with, at least.
In his first State of the Union address, President Joe Biden stated that he would be "the only president ever to cut the deficit by more than one trillion dollars in a single year" and that "by the end of this year, the deficit will be down to less than half what it was" before he took office. While the President's math is accurate, his claims of credit for reducing the deficit are misplaced and lack important context.

As we've noted before, the Fiscal Year 2022 deficit is slated to decline dramatically relative to 2021, and the debt-to-GDP ratio is likely to fall by the end of the fiscal year as well. But that is to be expected when most of the $5 trillion in COVID relief was disbursed in 2020 and 2021 while revenues sank due to the slowdown in economic activity.

Importantly, the trend of declining deficits is only true for the next couple of years. With the structural imbalance between spending and revenue growing over the medium and long terms, deficits will grow for most of the next decade and worsen thereafter as our nation's trust funds deplete.

The deficit will fall by more than $1 trillion this year, but it is not because President Biden took efforts to cut it.

The national debt will still grow by more than $1 trillion this year and nearly $13 trillion over the next decade. Now is not the time to take credit for fiscal responsibility; instead, it would be better for policymakers to come up with a plan to reduce deficits and the debt over the coming years such that debt is on a sustainable downward path. That will take revenue increases, spending cuts, and tough choices on changes to entitlement programs.
 
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Your post would have been good if you could have resisted putting that pointless last line to it.
So 1 line (truthful line) is going to deter you? Sad for you.

Using your thought process, then the line you entered about Biden renders your post pointless then. I guess we can play that game if you want.

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Quit telling the world it’s trillion dollar deficits forever forward.
This doesn't address the problem. Reducing the deficit is one thing Biden has been highly successful with, at least.
 
This doesn't address the problem.
Yes it does.
The deficits are the fount of inflation in our fiat monetary system wherein the Federal Reserve manipulates interest rates by printing money to buy government debt.
Biden can’t stop the Fed from printing money to achieve their interest rate price controls. He can refuse to sign new trillion dollar deficits and present a budget path unlike everyone he’s presented so far that promise 1.4+ trillion dollar deficits per annum for the next decade.


Reducing the deficit is one thing Biden has been highly successful with, at least.
His first deficit was 1.4 trillion, down from Pelosi-Schumer-Trump 4.2 trillion in new debt in the FY’19-‘20, it this FY they frontloaded 1.1 trillion in new debt in the first quarter and another .7 trillion in new debt in the second quarter, so they could avoid raising debt in the 3rd quarter and send out misleading tweets about ‘paying down the debt’.
People here have already fallen for the disinformation and shared it on this forum.
Never trust the tweets and headlines.
Go look at the numbers posted online by the Treasury Department.
 
So 1 line (truthful line) is going to deter you? Sad for you.

Using your thought process, then the line you entered about Biden renders your post pointless then. I guess we can play that game if you want.


This doesn't address the problem. Reducing the deficit is one thing Biden has been highly successful with, at least.
That line was a political pot shot. Yes, it ruined your response, which up until that time was a constructive response.
 
That line was a political pot shot. Yes, it ruined your response, which up until that time was a constructive response.
As did yours then. Congratulations. Sorry the truth hurts, but hey go ahead and find your safe space and coddle yourself.
 
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As did yours then. Congratulations. Sorry the truth hurts, but hey go ahead and find your safe space and coddle yourself.
You have a weird idea of what a pot shot is.

You seem highly defensive here. It kind of sucks you are incapable of having a reasonable discussion without throwing around insults. Although acting like a child is typical behavior for the GOP these days.
 
Where are those who were trying to tell me it was on the way down last month ? Just need to remind them that this report is not meaningful by itself, either. However, the last 3-4 prints are making it look like we're stuck in the 8% range. Until we do something on energy we will continue with high inflation, imo. It sounds to me like Biden is not interested in that. Welcome back, Carter.
Biden wants high energy prices in order to accelerate the move to EVs. He's already let that slip out. Anything else he says is a lie. He doesn't care about common people.
 
Energy is going to have to be a mix (wind, solar, nuclear, fossil, etc). We need the EO's that were signed day 1 to be reversed and let American mfg's keep pumping oil (our companies do it cleaner than anyone else). After we get the inflation under control and we re-establish being independent for fuels, then we start blending in the other means of energy.

This admin is a shite hole and is doing nothing to better America.

You’re correct - the world CAN shift energy sources but every source must remain intact until the shift away from fossil fuels is achieved.
I do believe that can and will happen.
 
Biden wants high energy prices in order to accelerate the move to EVs. He's already let that slip out. Anything else he says is a lie. He doesn't care about common people.
Biden needs to sit back and allow for natural market forces to move buyers to EV vehicles. That will happen albeit at a slower pace than many desire.
 
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The Fed needs an emergency rate hike to 5% then monthly quarter point raises until they reach 8% to stop this sort of inflation and increase savings with which to fuel the eventual recovery. We have been through worse before and we can do it again.

Speak for yourself, old timer 😀
 
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Where are those who were trying to tell me it was on the way down last month ? Just need to remind them that this report is not meaningful by itself, either. However, the last 3-4 prints are making it look like we're stuck in the 8% range. Until we do something on energy we will continue with high inflation, imo. It sounds to me like Biden is not interested in that. Welcome back, Carter.
Where were you in the January 6th thread? Post when the next migrant caravan is about to invade.
 
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