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Iowa hospitals will be overrun by surge in new cases, says UIHC epidemiologist

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Without a change in behavior and more emphasis on mitigation strategies to prevent the spread of COVID-19, Iowans are “going to continue to suffer the consequences,” according to an epidemiologist at the University of Iowa Hospitals and Clinics.


The situation in Iowa is critical after a spike in viral transmissions has driven record-breaking number of hospitalized COVID-19 patients statewide, said Dr. Jorge Salinas, a leading infection control specialist at UIHC.


As of Thursday morning, 605 patients infected with the novel coronavirus were in hospitals across the state, including 135 in intensive care units and 56 on ventilators. That’s the highest rate of patients ever seen throughout the pandemic in Iowa.


And as a result, the state’s hospitals will be overrun with sick patients “very soon,” Salinas said.


“The trends are very problematic, it’s very worrisome,” he said in a Facebook Live video Thursday. “It’s very likely hospitals will be overwhelmed pretty soon by this wave of cases in Iowa.”


Other local hospital officials have also expressed concern that their systems could be overwhelmed if the upward momentum of new infections continues at its current pace — despite reassurances from Gov. Kim Reynolds earlier this month that health care systems are strong enough to handle the surge. The last time Reynolds held a public news conference was Oct. 7.


Both Cedar Rapids hospitals have reported an unusually large number of admissions over the past few days, prompting a new sense of urgency as staff grapple with patient demands.
As far as space and supplies, we are fine. The concern is our staff and endurance it takes to continue caring for all of these patients,” Dr. Dustin Arnold, UnityPoint Health-St. Luke’s Hospital chief medical officer said in an interview with The Gazette.


However, Cedar Rapids health care officials emphasized that hospitals are still equipped to handle other patient care.


“We are safe,” Dr. Tony Myers, chief medical officer at Mercy Medical Center, told The Gazette. “We ran into problem early on in the pandemic that people were avoiding necessary care, and we do not want that to happen again. People were having heart attacks and strokes at home.”


These concerns are intensifying as the holidays draw closer, when Iowans will be traveling to see their loved ones, potentially gathering in large groups and transmitting the virus to one another.


“The situation in Iowa is critical,” Salinas said. “We have to change the way we’re doing things, otherwise we’re going to continue to suffer the consequences.”


Salinas attributed the sharp increase in new cases to failures to practice common sense public health measures, including wearing masks, socially distancing and avoiding large gatherings. With winter around the corner, more people will be gathering in indoor spaces, which will substantially increase the risk of spread.


He acknowledge the fatigue some feel about remaining in quarantine for the past seven months as another challenge, but noted that returning to everyday life too soon could have dire impacts.


“We’re going to lose our grandparents, our parents,” Salinas said. “I’m not being fatalistic, it’s a reality.”


“I remain hopeful that Iowans will wake up,” he continued. “This is not a political issue. Vote for whoever you want to vote for, it doesn’t matter, but implement these simple, science-based recommendations and your life will be better. Your family will remain complete.”


What Iowans do now will make a difference as Thanksgiving approaches, officials say. If enough people wear masks, socially distance and help reduce the chance of spread over the next few weeks, the risk of major outbreaks occurring as a result of holiday gatherings will be significantly reduced.


But if COVID-19 spread looks the same at the end of next month, Myers said he would recommend high-risk patients avoid gathering with others for the holiday.


“We need the community to have a re-emphasis on behaviors we all know work,” Myers said. “We really need the people to refocus on that.”


Unlike early in the pandemic, community spread of the virus has reached rural areas and other less densely populated parts of the state, Salinas said.


Other parts of the Midwest are also seeing an alarming spikes in hospitalization rates, including Indiana and Wisconsin. On Wednesday, Kansas reported the highest rate of ICU hospitalizations since the pandemic began.


“Unfortunately, it’s affecting our neighboring states, so they may not be able to help us because we’re all going to be in the same position,” Salinas said.


Salinas said its safe for people to gather in small groups of less than 10 people while socially distancing and wearing a mask. As long as people maintain a small “bubble” of interactions, their risk of transmission is much lower.

By doing so, Salinas said the situation in Iowa could be much different by Thanksgiving. But without following proper public health guidelines, “thanksgiving is going to be very, very problematic.”


https://www.thegazette.com/subject/...ases-covid-19-hospitalizations-surge-20201029“
 
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Gee, didn’t we hear this already back in April?

Covid patients are taking up 7.5% of the beds in Iowa, and the only reason the number is that high is due to mandatory testing and highly suspect testing protocols.

We’re also doing 5-6 times more testing than six months ago, and no matter how much you hate Donny Boy if you can’t admit that has a drastic impact on new positives then you’re truly delusional.

More fear porn for the masses.
 
Gee, didn’t we hear this already back in April?

Covid patients are taking up 7.5% of the beds in Iowa, and the only reason the number is that high is due to mandatory testing and highly suspect testing protocols.

We’re also doing 5-6 times more testing than six months ago, and no matter how much you hate Donny Boy if you can’t admit that has a drastic impact on new positives then you’re truly delusional.

More fear porn for the masses.
What area of health care do you work in ?
 
Gee, didn’t we hear this already back in April?

Covid patients are taking up 7.5% of the beds in Iowa, and the only reason the number is that high is due to mandatory testing and highly suspect testing protocols.

We’re also doing 5-6 times more testing than six months ago, and no matter how much you hate Donny Boy if you can’t admit that has a drastic impact on new positives then you’re truly delusional.

More fear porn for the masses.
Are you suggesting that asymptomatic people or people with mild symptoms are being hospitalized because of positive tests? Or are you suggesting that hospitals shouldn't be testing people who are showing symptoms to determine whether a particularly widespread virus is the cause of the symptoms? Either way, it's a poorly thought out opinion.
 
Gee, didn’t we hear this already back in April?

Covid patients are taking up 7.5% of the beds in Iowa, and the only reason the number is that high is due to mandatory testing and highly suspect testing protocols.

We’re also doing 5-6 times more testing than six months ago, and no matter how much you hate Donny Boy if you can’t admit that has a drastic impact on new positives then you’re truly delusional.

More fear porn for the masses.
Lmfao you're a moron dude. You think people are in the hospital just for testing positive? Damn you're stupid!

And where does it state there are 8000 hospital beds in Iowa??
 
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Are you suggesting that asymptomatic people or people with mild symptoms are being hospitalized because of positive tests? Or are you suggesting that hospitals shouldn't be testing people who are showing symptoms to determine whether a particularly widespread virus is the cause of the symptoms? Either way, it's a poorly thought out opinion.
I’ve referred to numbers from the IDPH and linked to their site many, many times. That’s where the 7.5% comes from, along with ventilators in use, ICU beds available, etc. It’s a handy resource whenever Das Ga posts more dire news.

I’ve never asserted that asymptomatic people are being admitted but I know for a fact that a least one local hospital ‘chain’ had adopted a policy recently to admit any symptomatic case with a positive test regardless of severity.

Hospitals were hit hard by the shutdown: they’re doing the logical thing in trying to recoup their losses. These admins aren’t stupid - they will try to increase capacity (empty beds = empty bank acts) while continually pleading their case that they’re in dire straits. Why? More money....this isn’t rocket science.

And still not one word on the absolute uselessness of the PCR test as a diagnostic tool in a ‘pandemic’ scenario. 🙈
 
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Eff her so bad. Our numbers are a disaster right now.
The problem I have is she acts like it's an inconvenience when reporters ask her about Covid. I don't see any empathy for victims and families. Just the "canned response" that we get from the WH.

I've gone from an extreme disgust of her to downright hatred.

I'm interested to see how she acts if/when Trump loses next week.
 
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I’ve referred to numbers from the IDPH and linked to their site many, many times. That’s where the 7.5% comes from, along with ventilators in use, ICU beds available, etc. It’s a handy resource whenever Das Ga posts more dire news.

I’ve never asserted that asymptomatic people are being admitted but I know for a fact that a least one local hospital ‘chain’ had adopted a policy recently to admit any symptomatic case with a positive test regardless of severity.

Hospitals were hit hard by the shutdown: they’re doing the logical thing in trying to recoup their losses. These admins aren’t stupid - they will try to increase capacity (empty beds = empty bank acts) while continually pleading their case that they’re in dire straits. Why? More money....this isn’t rocket science.

And still not one word on the absolute uselessness of the PCR test as a diagnostic tool in a ‘pandemic’ scenario. 🙈

My apologies for being off the topic of this thread but the highlighted paragraph above illustrates a problem for "for profit" healthcare and is an argument for universal healthcare.

Carry on...
 
Like I said earlier, I am interested to see what Kimmy does once she's done campaigning for her cohorts.

Cause you know damn well the correspondance from the WH dries up.
 
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As others have already stated... no one knows the long term effects of covid.

My nephew, through marriage, had covid in August and still doesn't feel great. He was on a vent for five days.
 
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Gee, didn’t we hear this already back in April?

Covid patients are taking up 7.5% of the beds in Iowa, and the only reason the number is that high is due to mandatory testing and highly suspect testing protocols.

We’re also doing 5-6 times more testing than six months ago, and no matter how much you hate Donny Boy if you can’t admit that has a drastic impact on new positives then you’re truly delusional.

More fear porn for the masses.

So someone that tests positive gets a bed? I don't think you know how it works. A good friend of mine had it for ten days, said it was the worst 10 days of his life. He couldn't walk five feet without stopping to catch his breath. They didn't admit him to the hospital because he could still breathe on his own. He lost 20 lbs. in 10 days.
 
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Total number of Covid inpatients at UIHC today....22.

8 months into the deadliest pandemic in 100 years and the largest hospital in the state of Iowa has 22 Covid inpatients.

8 months into the deadliest pandemic in 100 years Johnson County and it’s 150,000 population have had 31 people die WITH Covid.
 
LTC outbreaks count now sits at 76.

Guess Iowans really aren't learning to live with it.

Should we tell Kimmy and would she even give a crap?
 
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This may be so, but I'd like to see some numbers.

I remember talk of Texas and Houston being overrun. Florida... Lots of places, actually. And maybe it happened, and I missed, but it always seemed the problem was avoided. (at the last second, at the precipice of disaster? or were they that close at all?)
 
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Gee, didn’t we hear this already back in April?

Covid patients are taking up 7.5% of the beds in Iowa, and the only reason the number is that high is due to mandatory testing and highly suspect testing protocols.

We’re also doing 5-6 times more testing than six months ago, and no matter how much you hate Donny Boy if you can’t admit that has a drastic impact on new positives then you’re truly delusional.

More fear porn for the masses.

When more people feel sick and go get tested then yes more testing will occur
 
So someone that tests positive gets a bed? I don't think you know how it works. A good friend of mine had it for ten days, said it was the worst 10 days of his life. He couldn't walk five feet without stopping to catch his breath. They didn't admit him to the hospital because he could still breathe on his own. He lost 20 lbs. in 10 days.
I never said that. The mandatory testing can add numbers to the total - say a twenty year old male is admitted for an appendectomy: he is swabbed, comes back positive and thus becomes another Covid hospitalization.

A lady in our community was receiving in-home care: mid 80’s and dying of cancer. A week before she died she was admitted to hospital and received a covid test which returned positive. It happens over and over.

There are hospital(s) in the area that are now admitting positive cases with non-life threatening symptoms and I don’t blame them. They have a low census and they need the money.

I agree with you on people that get sick: any respiratory virus can kill - or help kill - and it all depends on how vulnerable you are. This particular one can knock you on your ass or it might go basically unnoticed. We’re all predisposed to reacting differently to different stimuli...some of us can eat a bag of Snickers that one sniff of would put a vulnerable person in the ER

I would much rather my kids get corona than the flu, but if I had an 80 year old grandparent in the home I might be hoping for the opposite.

I hope your friend recovers completely.
 
"Killer Filthy Don" won't be happy until these numbers increase, With him its us against them. He doesn't have a plan and doesn't want one.
 
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When more people feel sick and go get tested then yes more testing will occur
A lot of it is work required. There are five nursing homes in our county that have all adopted twice-weekly testing. Don’t know how many staff that is but let’s say twenty five employees each. So 125 employees works out to 250 new tests per week. Pretty sure they’re all pretty much healthy because if you have a fever you don’t get in the door.

Multiplied nationwide that’s a LOT of testing of healthy people, yet for some reason the residents are still extremely vulnerable.

Not to mention the emotional pain they’ve suffered. :confused:
 
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I’ve referred to numbers from the IDPH and linked to their site many, many times. That’s where the 7.5% comes from, along with ventilators in use, ICU beds available, etc. It’s a handy resource whenever Das Ga posts more dire news.

I’ve never asserted that asymptomatic people are being admitted but I know for a fact that a least one local hospital ‘chain’ had adopted a policy recently to admit any symptomatic case with a positive test regardless of severity.

Hospitals were hit hard by the shutdown: they’re doing the logical thing in trying to recoup their losses. These admins aren’t stupid - they will try to increase capacity (empty beds = empty bank acts) while continually pleading their case that they’re in dire straits. Why? More money....this isn’t rocket science.

And still not one word on the absolute uselessness of the PCR test as a diagnostic tool in a ‘pandemic’ scenario. 🙈
Here’s Fauci talking about how high cycle thresholds skew the numbers and how ‘positives’ at that level can’t even be considered viral. Funny, isn’t it?
 
Other than the pending restraining orders, these threads have been a consistent source of sensible chuckles for 6 months, so I appreciate it. I personally know hundreds of of healthcare workers, many on the front lines, who completely disagree with everything that has been repeatedly posted here. Your confidence in your position in the face of zero rational basis is inspiring to me.

But, by all means, carry on. It gives me a reason to visit HROT.
 
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"Killer Filthy Don" won't be happy until these numbers increase, With him its us against them. He doesn't have a plan and doesn't want one.
You can insert the leader of every country in the world if it helps you feel better.

you will eventually come to realize it isn’t going away without a vaccine.

you should rely on yourself and not an elected official that couldn’t give a shot if you live or die. You think Biden cares if you die? He cares about winning and then his #1 priority will be winning again.
 
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Other than the pending restraining orders, these threads have been a consistent source of sensible chuckles for 6 months, so I appreciate it. I personally know hundreds of of healthcare workers, many on the front lines, who completely disagree with everything that has been repeatedly posted here. Your confidence in your position in the face of zero rational basis is inspiring to me.

But, by all means, carry on. It gives me a reason to visit HROT.



I know....hysterical, right!!!???

~2000 healthcare workers who have died from Covid (>1200 in the US), while treating Covid patients.
I LOL so hard at all of them being self-PWNED I almost can't stand up anymore!!!

😲

https://twitter.com/CTZebra
 
Other than the pending restraining orders, these threads have been a consistent source of sensible chuckles for 6 months, so I appreciate it. I personally know hundreds of of healthcare workers, many on the front lines, who completely disagree with everything that has been repeatedly posted here. Your confidence in your position in the face of zero rational basis is inspiring to me.

But, by all means, carry on. It gives me a reason to visit HROT.

 
Other than the pending restraining orders, these threads have been a consistent source of sensible chuckles for 6 months, so I appreciate it. I personally know hundreds of of healthcare workers, many on the front lines, who completely disagree with everything that has been repeatedly posted here. Your confidence in your position in the face of zero rational basis is inspiring to me.

But, by all means, carry on. It gives me a reason to visit HROT.

 
Other than the pending restraining orders, these threads have been a consistent source of sensible chuckles for 6 months, so I appreciate it. I personally know hundreds of of healthcare workers, many on the front lines, who completely disagree with everything that has been repeatedly posted here. Your confidence in your position in the face of zero rational basis is inspiring to me.

But, by all means, carry on. It gives me a reason to visit HROT.

 
Other than the pending restraining orders, these threads have been a consistent source of sensible chuckles for 6 months, so I appreciate it. I personally know hundreds of of healthcare workers, many on the front lines, who completely disagree with everything that has been repeatedly posted here. Your confidence in your position in the face of zero rational basis is inspiring to me.

But, by all means, carry on. It gives me a reason to visit HROT.

 
Other than the pending restraining orders, these threads have been a consistent source of sensible chuckles for 6 months, so I appreciate it. I personally know hundreds of of healthcare workers, many on the front lines, who completely disagree with everything that has been repeatedly posted here. Your confidence in your position in the face of zero rational basis is inspiring to me.

But, by all means, carry on. It gives me a reason to visit HROT.

 
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