Sure, 3-0 would be nice but it's not surprising that it has taken a few weeks to get things right.
And posters already wanting Petras benched? Good grief.
And posters already wanting Petras benched? Good grief.
IOWA is 5th youngest team in Country. It had no Spring Practices. And our Fan Base expects Perfection
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I saw that, I did not realize how young the roster is overall - gets a little obscured by ISM/Smith at WR I think as seniors, when most of the other guys are younger than that.
Also throw in the on again/off again nature of fall camp and stuff makes a little more sense. I'm also looking around and just seeing crazy results all over and realizing that this year just isn't the season to determine how good 90% of the teams are this year.
Also throw in the on again/off again nature of fall camp and stuff makes a little more sense. I'm also looking around and just seeing crazy results all over and realizing that this year just isn't the season to determine how good 90% of the teams are this year.
What I saw was a team of disarray the first two games.
This last game it's hard to look bad when the other team is playing even worse then you did your first two.
We are always a slow starting team regardless who is on it. It's madening
This last game it's hard to look bad when the other team is playing even worse then you did your first two.
We are always a slow starting team regardless who is on it. It's madening
You obviously are a big kf fan...22 years and 2 conference titles to show for it..almost 20 years ago...would you want stock in a company like that???????
Our fan base expects perfection...
Yes. I'll take P& G stock with steady growth and a 4% dividend every year over Enron...
Except the 4% growth is from year to year..so essentially you get 4% better each year. So by your math the team should be 40% better then in 2010 correct? I think a lot of people on here would argue we are 4% better from 2010 to 2020
Great analyticals skills, that's exactly what he was getting at.
I think Iowa lost to one good team,NW. Lost to a ok team Purdue, cuz they couldn't cover one guy.
this is just a very tough year to judge any team. Remember when Iowa state lost so Louisiana? Yeah they’re near the top of the b12. Or when kansas state won @ Oklahoma after losing to Arkansas state?
because the b10 screwed around, this has taken on an especially bizarro season after the on / off again fall camp.
for this one year, I’m just happy to have football and want to see them play better in 6 weeks than they started out. Person, I think we played better overall than it looked, but mistakes at bad moments killed us.
because the b10 screwed around, this has taken on an especially bizarro season after the on / off again fall camp.
for this one year, I’m just happy to have football and want to see them play better in 6 weeks than they started out. Person, I think we played better overall than it looked, but mistakes at bad moments killed us.
Or, we can be like Debbie and find out that a 7-5 to 10-3 record is much better then multiple losing seasons and a coaching carousel. KF might not be Urban Meyer or Nick Saban, but he is the fourth winningest coach in Big Ten history.
Now the argument will be that its all because he's been here for so long. True, but here's the thing fellas, He still had to WIN those 163 games! He's not 4th all time because he coached here for 21+ seasons. Its because he's won 163 games or whatever. For the math folks that almost 8 wins a year. Without the start over from the ashes 1999-2000 year its over 8 wins a year.Or, we can be like Debbie and find out that a 7-5 to 10-3 record is much better then multiple losing seasons and a coaching carousel. KF might not be Urban Meyer or Nick Saban, but he is the fourth winningest coach in Big Ten history.
Well comparatively speaking to the best teams in the country, Northwestern and Purdue aren't good.
But right now, thanks to covid running wild in Madison, they're the leaders of the West.......because Iowa is so generous like that.
Meh. We've only won 47 games the last 5 years. That barely puts us in the Top 10 in country. Utterly shameful!
Since nobody looses a year of eligibility this year will we still be the 5th youngest next year?
I don't think anyone knows how next season is really going to go for teams.
Basically sounds like: "congratulations seniors, you can come back next year (if you're currently in the two deeps). We're still trying to figure out how to pay for it, but you're welcome back (but hope many of you don't). Not a huge deal if you don't want to though, who really wants to go through spring and fall camp again anyway (unless you're starting and need more film for the NFL) ?"
In the opening game of season Iowa had 10 juniors, seniors or graduate players on their offensive two deeps on offense and 11 on defense. Purdue had 9 of offense and 10 on defense. Purdue’s 112 man roster has 87 freshmen, redshirt freshmen and sophomores.
Come on, Fran. How's that job at the straw man factory going?
Nobody expects "perfection" every year. We do expect consistency from a guy who's been in the job 20+ years. I'm sure Petras will continue to improve with experience as well...but he's not some newbie who's never seen the IOWA playbook.
We'll know by the end of the year. Regardless of roster age, under .500 ain't gonna cut it.
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Straw man factory? And you want to be taken seriously?
And you expect consistency, huh? Well, that's what you have gotten. KF won 47 games over the last 5 years, which had never before been done in program history.
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OK, Fran...we've always gotten along. You know what I mean... it's not fair to say that everyone expects perfection. They don't.
Yes, KFz just had a great 5 year run... one of the best in IOWA football history behind Howard Jones, JHF and Evy. Maybe that's why folks are surprised by the apparent drop off.
But again, it's only 3 games. 7-2 is still possible...so is 1-8. I'd put my money on 5-4 if forced to.
We won 10 games last year including a blow out off USC. A few of one you seem to have forgotten that.
I hope the irony here isn't lost on you. If there has been one word the outside media uses to describe the Iowa program under Kirk it's been consistent. I honestly thought you were trolling when first reading it.
https://athlonsports.com/college-football/iowa-football-game-game-predictions-2020
Iowa has been one of the more consistent teams in the entire country throughout Kirk Ferentz's tenure
Found that in 15 seconds. Probably could fine 400 more articles that say that.
Exactly. Also, people don't seem to take into consideration that Iowa had those years they lost Brandon Wegher after his freshman year, and then Adam Robinson shortly after. Both were young backs. Then we lost Marcus Coker, all in what, a two or three year period? That was Kirk's worst stretch I believe. Think of how many years that set Iowa back. If Wisconsin had lost their three best backs in a two or three year span, I doubt they would have been so dominant in the West, and things would look differently today. How good could Iowa had been if they had Wegher and Adam Robinson for 3 or 4 years, and Coker for the same duration? Instead, we had to use a fullback at tailback in Mark Weisman, who did a good job for what it was, but he was still a FB playing HB.
I think Hampton would have been special at Iowa had he stayed healthy, and persevered......
They could be 3-0 and the same lame asses would still be complaining.
It is a bit misleading. Our starters going off week 1 lineups there were a lot of upperclassman.
4 of 5 OL
2 WRs
4 DL
2 LB
3 Secondary
Then you have Goodson, La Porta, Ragaini & Tracy who all played as freshman. Basically the whole offense minus Petras were not playing in their first game and had least 1 season of being on the field under their belt.
Our senior starters are VERY few this year. And considering that they can all come back, that leaves us looking pretty darn competitive. This is fantastic for the type of development that is the Iowa program.
There will be a considerable amount of experience on our roster for years to come. Which, again, is good for a program like Iowa's. Yes, others will have the same advantage EXCEPT the teams that will lose lots of talent to the NFL. Plus, it weighs heavily towards a Kirk Ferentz run program.
Senior starters on Offense:
Brandon Smith
Alaric Jackson
Cole Banwart
ISM
Keith Duncan
Senior starters on Defense:
Chancey Golston
Jack Heflin
Barrintong Wade(when we don't play cash)
Nick Neimann
Matt Hankins
We should be returning all but a few players. It will be interesting.
Almost all teams should be better from the extra year. But I still say it favors KF and the Iowa Hawkeyes more than 95% of all programs.
There will be a considerable amount of experience on our roster for years to come. Which, again, is good for a program like Iowa's. Yes, others will have the same advantage EXCEPT the teams that will lose lots of talent to the NFL. Plus, it weighs heavily towards a Kirk Ferentz run program.
Senior starters on Offense:
Brandon Smith
Alaric Jackson
Cole Banwart
ISM
Keith Duncan
Senior starters on Defense:
Chancey Golston
Jack Heflin
Barrintong Wade(when we don't play cash)
Nick Neimann
Matt Hankins
We should be returning all but a few players. It will be interesting.
Almost all teams should be better from the extra year. But I still say it favors KF and the Iowa Hawkeyes more than 95% of all programs.
definitely an older defense but a lot of guys seeing there first ever time. I think Barrington and Niemann playing out of position and Heflin playing his first game within the scheme hurt them in the run game. Along with Nixon and ZVV never playing a full game before.
MSU was fairy successful against an above average Michigan defense but they really struggled against the Hawks front 7. I think the defense has figured out its deficiencies and played a lot more aggressive upfront. Benson is going to be a hell of player.
if they can hold Minnesota to 27 they will be 2-2
IOWA was the better team in all three games and was out coached in the first 2 games.
(For the record, I am a KF and BF fan)
(For the record, I am a KF and BF fan)
First of all, I don't believe HROT is representative of our fan base, way overboard here.
Second, I think very few fanbases expect perfection, maybe Ohio State, Notre Dame, Alabama.
Third, fans care about winning, not necessarily about how you won, how much you won by, who you beat.
Fourth, in football as in life, you're only as good as your last game.
Second, I think very few fanbases expect perfection, maybe Ohio State, Notre Dame, Alabama.
Third, fans care about winning, not necessarily about how you won, how much you won by, who you beat.
Fourth, in football as in life, you're only as good as your last game.
kind of a shitty comparsion . compared to the BEST teams in the country probably not that good , how many best teams in the country are there ? 7 or 8 ? northwestern is very solid purdue is not far behind .
pretty sure we were missing some of our better linebackers . if you think northwestern is mediocre you have shown us your football knowledge .
Yeah, check out the orig post from November. Iowa is an incredibly young team. It will be interesting to see if they keep the momentum and winning streak going.
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