Iowa Legislature: Iowa lawmakers likely to look at school library book selection process this session
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And you can't even name any book you find objectionable, but you are not blowing things out of proportion.
This is all something that goes back to a thing that doesn't exist...a boogeyman...now here we are wasting time debating and arguing over a non problem being turned into a problem...because the public is not very bright.
Republican lawmakers really do want Idiocracy to become reality, don't they?
When you fear and belittle an educated, intelligent electorate, it's likely because you know what you are doing is unethical and immoral but don't care.
When you fear and belittle an educated, intelligent electorate, it's likely because you know what you are doing is unethical and immoral but don't care.
Great participation in this thread today, Doobie. All full of faux rage and letting it rip!
This is another reason they are restricting press access to the legislature. They wan't to act in secret.
You're correct. Can you name one book they are trying to burn?
I can name a few books that have been subject to bans, but I'm not the one supporting the legislature's efforts.
If you don't want your son to read it there are other options besides banning it. Why do you get to decide what books other people's children can read?
I am sure some books is the reason a married couple with degrees are moving out of places like Wright county.
has nothing to do with jobs they desire and entertainment.
I don’t care how good the schools are, people are not going to stay in rural Iowa in big numbers.
Are you talking about school boards and the public meeting that they hold in the communities that they exist? Because it sounds likes that's exactly the type of thing you're referring to when you bring up the idea of a mechanism for dealing with a subject similar to deciding what is in a school's library.
I'm not sure I agree with this. Iowa used to have one of the best educational systems in the nation. We were always seen as being on the leading edge of educational opportunities. Now we are sliding towards the bottom. Every year we lose ground educationally.
Schools are a source of pride and nowhere is this more apparent than small towns. Literally everything revolves around schools in small towns. Take this source of pride away and what few reasons people have to live in small towns suddenly disappears.
For most communities, the local school board members
are the ones who have supervision over the local schools.
It is not necessary for the state legislatures to try and
take over that responsibility.
The best school districts are ones with low turnover of
teachers and administrators. Today, schools are having
enough problems with Covid 19 and do not need any
unnecessary interference with school library book
selections.
are the ones who have supervision over the local schools.
It is not necessary for the state legislatures to try and
take over that responsibility.
The best school districts are ones with low turnover of
teachers and administrators. Today, schools are having
enough problems with Covid 19 and do not need any
unnecessary interference with school library book
selections.
So, because I personally can't name a porn book, there is no such thing? I have to know the title if every book in existence to have an opinion? Duh. Also, I am not the one disapproving the legislature's efforts so I am not the one that has the burden. You are claiming it is book burning yet cannot name one book that is being "burned".
If you don't know the name of books you find questionable, how are you going to know if your son brings one home from the library? What library book(s) does your son currently have checked out?
Chapman got his tighty-whities in a wad about "The Hate U Give" & "The absolutely True Diary of a Part-Time Indian".
Iowa senator calls for felony penalty for distribution of 'obscene' materials in schools
Iowa's ACLU warns that recent attempts to ban books in schools are likely unconstitutional. Such moves have increased in the U.S. in the past year.
www.desmoinesregister.com
Neither of which graphically describe oral sex. In fact, the only thing mentioned in Part-Time Indian is masturbation.Chapman got his tighty-whities in a wad about "The Hate U Give" & "The absolutely True Diary of a Part-Time Indian".
Iowa senator calls for felony penalty for distribution of 'obscene' materials in schools
Iowa's ACLU warns that recent attempts to ban books in schools are likely unconstitutional. Such moves have increased in the U.S. in the past year.www.desmoinesregister.com
Also, if you're focusing on the masturbation mention, then you're missing the point of the entire book(which, unsurprisingly, most of these people are).
Chapman got his tighty-whities in a wad about "The Hate U Give" & "The absolutely True Diary of a Part-Time Indian".
Iowa senator calls for felony penalty for distribution of 'obscene' materials in schools
Iowa's ACLU warns that recent attempts to ban books in schools are likely unconstitutional. Such moves have increased in the U.S. in the past year.www.desmoinesregister.com
Tell me you didn't read the link without telling me you didn't read it. Lol
Wasn't this debate put to bed in The Music Man?
Edit: I think I'm misremembering the plot. Didn't Henry Hill use the fear of books eroding the morality of the youth in order to fleece the parents?
Edit: I think I'm misremembering the plot. Didn't Henry Hill use the fear of books eroding the morality of the youth in order to fleece the parents?
"In a standing-room-only meeting Thursday night in Johnston, Sen. Jake Chapman used a public meeting over two nationally controversial books to ramp up his rhetoric on the topic saying: "I don't know why the school thinks that they're above the law. But I intend to do something about it."
Chapman, an Adel Republican, was one of at least 60 people - including students, parents, and teachers - who packed the district's boardroom Thursday as a seven member committee discussed local couple's complaint about two books used in the districts curriculum.
Committee members said parents Mandy, and Rodney Gilbert complained at the beginning of the school year that bestsellers "The Hate U Give" by Angie Thomas and "The Absolutely True Diary of a Part-Time Indian" by Sherman Alexie were inappropriate and obscene "
Then get rid of the Bible, it's full of objectionable and lewd material including whoring, incest. gang-rape and descriptions of men hung like donkeys who cum in bucket sized loads like a horse.
If the aggrieved, snowflake parents agree to that it seems like an excellent place to start the overall discussion of banning books.
If the aggrieved, snowflake parents agree to that it seems like an excellent place to start the overall discussion of banning books.
Tell me you only read the first three paragraphs without... well, you get the idea.
Wait please tell me you aren't seriously arguing that Chapman doesn't want those books banned?
They have been gone for a long time. Which is just great. We get anything we want or need in rural Iowa for the most part. Nice and peaceful. All I need to do is spend a day in Omaha or Des Moines to realize how good I have it.
Here's my point. Parents would like to "see the book and read the passage" just like gohawk here and yet somehow the op calls that book burning. It is not.
So how did the books that are being defined as pornography get identified? And how did the schools react?
The current processes identified the books, provided a forum for discussion and pulled them from circulation. Everything worked like it should. It’s like these morons that present seized drugs as a reason Biden needs to secure the border.
I honestly don’t mind giving a window to parents for curriculum. When it’s accompanied by a message that teachers are the enemy (which is just gross) - it clearly demonstrates an ulterior motive
(I had a rare spell check that avoided a WOB in this post… always thought it was alterior motive… as in alternative motive… which still makes more sense to me)
I have no problem with the parents reading the books and forming their own opinions, but that will be a little difficult if the parents don't even know the title. I'm sure any parent would be welcome to visit their schools library to read the books available for students to check out.
As I'm sure you are aware the *burning books* expression is a nod to the past. I'm sure the OP doesn't believe parents are going to burn any school library books, but banning them would produce the same result in regard to their availability for other students.
