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Iowa Penn State Game Preview and Prediction

While I agree that PSU may have better overall team speed, both of these teams are nearly identical in terms of youth on the depth chart.

Starting 2 deeps: Freshmen and Sophomores on Offense - PSU - 9 - IOWA - 12 Freshmen and Sophomores on Defense - PSU - 12 - IOWA - 11
This is just the offense and defense - does not include specialists (kickers, holders, etc.)
source: https://www.ourlads.com/ncaa-football-depth-charts/depth-chart/penn-state/91671
https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/thre...s-for-iowa-at-penn-state.247877/#post-5811817

This is not the IOWA team you saw last year. I'm sorry, but I think PSU is the team that will need to play close to perfect to win.

its your opinion.. the Hawks have historically been very average, we'll see what happens. Not sure how you explain Wisconsin.. they are not a great team and you still logged an L... in Iowa no less.
 
Too much McSorey I’m afraid

38-21 Lions
Wow! So the PSU team that Iowa held down last season WITH Barkley, and their great TE, to 15 pts until the last play of the game, is going to put up almost 40 against an Iowa defense that has statistically been way better then last year. Not to mention that our offense, especially the passing game has made significant improvement over last year, (I'm giving them a mulligan on the pass game for last week's wind tunnel), and yet we're not going to be able to score more then last year? Yes, we're on the road, but barring a bunch of bad turnovers, I'll stick with 27-17 Iowa.
 
its your opinion.. the Hawks have historically been very average, we'll see what happens. Not sure how you explain Wisconsin.. they are not a great team and you still logged an L... in Iowa no less.

Iowa handed Wisconsin that game with two special team turnovers. One had Wisconsin starting inside the Iowa 10. The other negated what would have been Iowa starting a possession in Wisconsin territory. Even with that, Iowa led late into the 4th quarter. Wisconsin scored a second touchdown when Iowa was selling out to get a stop in do or die time.

Take out those two giveaways (and gift TD) and I think Iowa wins going away. JMHO, but the momentum swings were huge.
 
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Wow! So the PSU team that Iowa held down last season WITH Barkley, and their great TE, to 15 pts until the last play of the game, is going to put up almost 40 against an Iowa defense that has statistically been way better then last year. Not to mention that our offense, especially the passing game has made significant improvement over last year, (I'm giving them a mulligan on the pass game for last week's wind tunnel), and yet we're not going to be able to score more then last year? Yes, we're on the road, but barring a bunch of bad turnovers, I'll stick with 27-17 Iowa.

PSU could had 50.. Josey Jewell played OUT OF HIS MIND behind a great Iowa crowd.. what # is he wearing this year? ;)
 
Plain and simple Iowa is a beatter team this year PSU is not as good as they were last year.3rd consecutive loss at home for PSU this iowa team is hungry and has something to prove
 
PSU could had 50.. Josey Jewell played OUT OF HIS MIND behind a great Iowa crowd.. what # is he wearing this year? ;)

Not quite sure what you're driving at here. It's true, that Iowa graduated all 3 starting LBs including the great Josey Jewell. However, LB play this year has been a strength of this year's defense, which is performing at a much higher level top to bottom.

What does that tell you? ;)
 
PSU has the talent to win.. they should be undefeated (led by double digits late in both games) but they are not. I was at the last Iowa game at PSU.. the Hawks O literally pissed down their leg all night with a senior QB. It was one of the 5 worst physical beatings the Hawks have taken in the last 10 years.


I'd agree with that, you were much better in 2016. This isn't that Iowa team, nor that Penn St team. I have not been that impressed with PST this year, while Iowa is looking better than any Iowa team in the last decade. I realize Maryland, Indiana, Minnesota, and Iowa State aren't Alabama, Clemson, Ohio St, and Oklahoma but we absolutely dominated those teams physically. This will be the toughest defense you have seen so far.
 
Both played in Minneapolis and Bloomington. I've been to games at Minnesota and that venue is definitely hostile...… Indiana not as much. I'll concede that Penn State is a more hostile environment than the previous road games, but it is not their first.

Dude, the stadium was 1/3 empty. A shadow of Kinnick, The Shoe, Beaver Stadium etc.... a very faint shadow at that. These guys haven't played in a hostile road environment yet.
 
Penn State hasn't lost by more than one possession in 3 years. Lost to OSU 2x by 1 lost to MSU 2X by 3-4 lost to USC by 3. Could PSU lose absolutely will Iowa win by double digits? Not a snow balls chance in hell. I get you guys are having a nice year but neither of us have beat a good team yet, I know fan stands for fanatic, but I think all that confidence is a bit misplaced.
 
Penn State averages 34.9 ppg in Conference play
Iowa averages 32.5

defensively Penn State is giving up 25.0 ppg
Iowa 18.8

on offense:
Penn State 474.3 ypg
Iowa 403.3 ypg

on defense
Penn State 443.0
Iowa 295.0

Penn State is averaging 3.0 sacks per game
Iowa 2.5

sacks against:
Penn State 2.5
Iowa 0.5

first downs :
Penn State 21.8
Iowa 21.6

defensive first downs
Penn State 26.0
Iowa 17.0

third down conversions (biggest key in every game, imo)
Penn State 35.1%
Iowa 53.3 %

defensive:
Penn State 31.9%
Iowa 40.4%

TOP:
Penn State 28:21
Iowa 33:02

INDIVIDUALS
rushing:
Miles Sanders 119.3 ypg
Ivory Kelly Martin 72.3

Passing:
Trace McSorley 55.5% 214.5 ypg 6 TD's
Nate Stanley 59.5% 244.0 ypg 13 TD's

gonna be a barn burner
 
Dude, the stadium was 1/3 empty. A shadow of Kinnick, The Shoe, Beaver Stadium etc.... a very faint shadow at that. These guys haven't played in a hostile road environment yet.
I already conceded that Penn State is a more hostile environment. Minnesota did not sell-out for Iowa but that did not somehow make the est. 35,000 Gopher fans who showed up at TCF friendly - they overwhelming outnumbered Iowa fans. Definitely hostile.
 
Wisconsin game last year was lost when Stanley couldn’t hear sheet. If they don’t practice noise and have a solution this Penn St could be similar. Hopefully Clayborn’s clone comes to play Saturday and we get the big victory.!
...btw this years WI gift was due to punt block team kicking a ball. Stuff happens but WI didn’t beat us we did it to ourselves and thats football.
 
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good discussions. I'm trying to behave :). Here is it.. Hawks are improved, PSU down a bit as of late, but if PSU plays well they can beat any team in the country not coached by Nick Saban. I believe the whole key is Iowa ability to run effectively.. if Iowa gets behind the sticks at the Beav it ain't gonna be ez. The only Iowa team I ever really dreaded playing was Brad Banks, he was very McSorely like.
 
Iowa handed Wisconsin that game with two special team turnovers. One had Wisconsin starting inside the Iowa 10. The other negated what would have been Iowa starting a possession in Wisconsin territory. Even with that, Iowa led late into the 4th quarter. Wisconsin scored a second touchdown when Iowa was selling out to get a stop in do or die time.

Take out those two giveaways (and gift TD) and I think Iowa wins going away. JMHO, but the momentum swings were huge.

Penn State handed Ohio State and MSU games.. your team is the plays that you make or don't make. Both teams are good, neither are great as of right now. College football is down, only real juggernaut is Bama. Clemson/OSU/PSU/USC/Georgia.. all are beatable this year.
 
Look up Clayborn, Angerererererererrrrr, Ballard, and Stanzi. You know you were freaking..

“The best game”
 
PSU could had 50.. Josey Jewell played OUT OF HIS MIND behind a great Iowa crowd.. what # is he wearing this year? ;)
Really, so now its based on what you COULD have scored? Please. Yes we lost Jewell and the other LB's, and between the guys who have stepped in, and the improved play of a rested and veteran DL, our defense has played much better consistantly this season over last. Thats a Fact. By the way, our defense won't be chasing Barkley all over the field like last year, but I'm sure your going to tell me that your even better without him this season?........:rolleyes:
 
Penn State handed Ohio State and MSU games.. your team is the plays that you make or don't make. Both teams are good, neither are great as of right now. College football is down, only real juggernaut is Bama. Clemson/OSU/PSU/USC/Georgia.. all are beatable this year.

OK. I expressed my opinion. Iowa made a couple unforced errors and that's why Wisconsin won. Iowa was performing better on O and D. If we make unforced errors at PSU, PSU will likely win. If we don't, my money is on Iowa. If I were you, I'd be hoping for Iowa to have some bad luck...that's your best chance.
 
you are playing good.. but Wisconsin got stomped by BYU and Iowa took the gas pipe against them. This is a real road game and your QB is slower than snot. It will be a should be a good game. When you've beaten PSU (surprisingly they somehow stomped the ever living life out you while on sanctions) you've run the ball well. Your run game is mediocre this year, and you couldn't move the ball an inch in Iowa City last year. Iowa is a decent team, but hasn't played anybody as of yet.

The OSU/PSU game was a slug fest, it decimated both teams for the following 2 games. If you watch PSU/MSU and Indy/OSU both teams looked really sluggish following the game. As far as the transitive property... ie Hawks crushed Indiana.. I saw a mediocre Hawks team push the Lions last year, and mediocre Hawk team slaughter a tired OSU team. If PSU plays well I would give Iowa a 25% at best.. if PSU plays like they have vs MSU/Indy... it will be a 4th Q nail biter.

PSU is MUCH FASTER.. but much younger, the draft and graduation have decimated PSU experience wise. Hawks best chance is ball control.. but they'll have to get more than 3 each time. I generally like Iowa, prob about the only team in the whole league I actually root for from time to time outside of PSU.. I like your coach and your kids play tough, clean football.
Hmmm ... so this is interesting ... As you say, we haven't played anyone ... except we did beat the in-state school who recently beat the then No. 6 W Va team ...

So, let's take a look at an opponent both Iowa and PSU have played...

But, I guess PSU will just be too much for little 'ol Iowa ... :confused: ... Ha ... You will see ...

Iowa 42
Indiana 16

Penn State 33
Indiana 28
 
PSU has the talent to win.. they should be undefeated (led by double digits late in both games) but they are not. I was at the last Iowa game at PSU.. the Hawks O literally pissed down their leg all night with a senior QB. It was one of the 5 worst physical beatings the Hawks have taken in the last 10 years.
So just curious ... what leads a PSU fan to come to lil 'ol Iowa's message board to stir up a conversation about a team (i.e. your Nittany Lions) that is surely going to beat lil 'ol Iowa.

Why the need to come here? Bored? Insecure? Makes you feel better?

Having a good conversation is one thing ... but by your posts, you are just wanting to stir the pot ... Good luck with whatever your goal is ...
 
I am not hear trying to say that Iowa does not have a chance, but since 2016 after the Michigan blowout PSU has lost 5 games by a total of like 10 points. The people hear calling for a double digit win are, I think, out of line. Also I dont know if this is true but the perception of Iowa is they are not the same team away from Kinnick and they play in the West which has been a one team side of the conference.
 
I am not hear trying to say that Iowa does not have a chance, but since 2016 after the Michigan blowout PSU has lost 5 games by a total of like 10 points. The people hear calling for a double digit win are, I think, out of line. Also I dont know if this is true but the perception of Iowa is they are not the same team away from Kinnick and they play in the West which has been a one team side of the conference.
One team conference. That's funny. Look up my earlier post on Big Ten East vs. Big Ten West records. East Powers (Michigan, Mich. State, OSU, Penn State) 33-14 vs. the West. West Powers (Wisconsin, Iowa, Northwestern, Nebraska) 30-16. Describe that East dominance again?

In regards to Iowa not good away from Kinnick, explain that to Minnesota and Indiana. And while you're at it, ask Indiana if they would rather play Iowa or Penn State in a rematch.
 
Explain that to Minnesota and Indiana. And while you're at it, ask Indiana if they would rather play Iowa or Penn State in a rematch.

A single game against a common opponent is a data point but historically not all that accurate its an argument but does it equate to a double digit win at PSU? I just don't see it.
 
A single game against a common opponent is a data point but historically not all that accurate its an argument but does it equate to a double digit win at PSU? I just don't see it.

I never said we will win by double digits, but I do think that will be a distinct possibility. Don't get me wrong, Penn State could very well win this game, but I think Iowa is the superior team and will win this game by a surprising margin.
 
Purdue just beat your East Big Brother don’t give us the East/West this year. Penn St has been garbage and overrated since entering the BigTen
 
Both played in Minneapolis and Bloomington. I've been to games at Minnesota and that venue is definitely hostile...… Indiana not as much. I'll concede that Penn State is a more hostile environment than the previous road games, but it is not their first.
Dude the stadium has to be over half full to be hostile
 
Purdue just beat your East Big Brother don’t give us the East/West this year. Penn St has been garbage and overrated since entering the BigTen

Purdue beat OSU in a one off and could win the West this year, very true. But if you don't want to acknowledge the difference in strength over the last 3-4 years between East and West your being Naive. One game does not constitute a trend the West has been historically weak you cannot argue otherwise.
 
Purdue beat OSU in a one off and could win the West this year, very true. But if you don't want to acknowledge the difference in strength over the last 3-4 years between East and West your being Naive. One game does not constitute a trend the West has been historically weak you cannot argue otherwise.

I don't have the statistics, what have the actual game results been between the East/West the last 4 years? Please just stick with the actual games so we can get past the West homers making excuses.
 
So just curious ... what leads a PSU fan to come to lil 'ol Iowa's message board to stir up a conversation about a team (i.e. your Nittany Lions) that is surely going to beat lil 'ol Iowa.

Why the need to come here? Bored? Insecure? Makes you feel better?

Having a good conversation is one thing ... but by your posts, you are just wanting to stir the pot ... Good luck with whatever your goal is ...

I've been around the last 5-6 years.. see past PSU games... I sometimes come around to celebrate a UNL loss as well..;)
 
Look up Clayborn, Angerererererererrrrr, Ballard, and Stanzi. You know you were freaking..

“The best game”

Clayborn was good.. but we also kinda sucked.. Franklin has his faults but Joe was like 17 years behind the times. Stanzi was typical Iowa QB.. he would stumble around for 3 quarters and then hit play action to the TE just about the time you were convinced he had cerebral palsy.. the only Iowa QB I've ever liked was Banks, and he was purely a college QB. My fav was Christenson to play against.. may have been one of the 10 worst QB's I've ever seen...
 
I already conceded that Penn State is a more hostile environment. Minnesota did not sell-out for Iowa but that did not somehow make the est. 35,000 Gopher fans who showed up at TCF friendly - they overwhelming outnumbered Iowa fans. Definitely hostile.

I guess we have different concepts of "hostile". I was there...it wasn't terribly impressive. Away game, sure. Hostile.? Not really. Apart from the students who were pretty lubed up...Meh.
 
I guess we have different concepts of "hostile". I was there...it wasn't terribly impressive. Away game, sure. Hostile.? Not really. Apart from the students who were pretty lubed up...Meh.
Yeah, its a matter of interpretation. I definitely see your point though.
 
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I sense some bad blood between Ferentz and Franklin.

I haven't studied PSU enough to make a prediction but I do have a wish: Iowa in victory formation at end of game, snap, quick knee and Nate Stanley punts the ball into the stands.

Would love it if Iowa was winning by 14 points or so, in red zone with a few seconds on the clock, and Iowa punts into the stands with Nate.

Hahah
 
Start fast, Start fast, Start Fast! Iowa has to come out on the attack! Make Penn State Stop the two best offensive players Iowa has! Hock & Fant! As we’ve seen when these two get it going the O is very dangerous & the whole team feeds off of it! Penn State is ripe for the plucking! & there’s is no Saquon Barkley to deal with! Iowa’s ends can contain McWhoseywhatsit. Iowa 31- Pennsylvania State - 17
 
I am not hear trying to say that Iowa does not have a chance, but since 2016 after the Michigan blowout PSU has lost 5 games by a total of like 10 points. The people hear calling for a double digit win are, I think, out of line. Also I dont know if this is true but the perception of Iowa is they are not the same team away from Kinnick and they play in the West which has been a one team side of the conference.

If you want anyone to take your comments seriously at least use the correct "here/hear". Here is a little trick I learned in 2nd grade, hear has ear in it, so you know it involves hearing! Your welcome to use it as well!
 
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Casual bystander here. It’s my opinion that PSU hasn’t beaten anyone good yet this year and Iowa is good. I think the trend continues.

I believe Iowa could win by double digits if they play a clean game. PSU did not replace Barkley and on Sunday, McSorley will be, well..... sore.
 
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