Iowa Teachers Union Stances on the ISSUES being debated in the State House
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If they put an income limit on the voucher would that make it better?
Or could also scale the voucher payment and where the income is above a certain line the money would go to the school and not offset any tuition the student many need to pay. Rich people still on the hook and the school still gets some money. Poor kid gets all the voucher money to offset tuition
Still don't like it though. Public schools need to first and last in my opinion on spending.
If Iowa is spending 7k per student (is that true?). and average class size is 20 kids would that be 140k? Teachers you should be asking some very serious accounting questions if that is true on compensation.
Behavior isn’t a disability. Kids who need extra learning help aren’t all special Ed.
Both Behavior and learning issues can now be classified as disorders instead of disabilities.
You consistently show you know very little about education and how it works.
Or he picks a block that fits his narrative. But Chicago!!!
Are we sure about this? When I taught BD it was classified as a disability. Pretty positive because I had to answer questions from the state when parents were requesting state money for their disabled child.
He doesn’t know or understand what he is talking about.
Purely behavior issues aren’t a disability. Children with emotional or learning disabilities can have behavior issues.
My wife is a primary level special education teacher. She constantly deals with regular Ed classroom teachers who are trying to offload behavior issues to special Ed so they don’t have to deal with it.
So parents were acquiring state funds due to a disorder? Again, it’s been awhile since I taught sped but I’m pretty sure it was considered a disability. I remember not wanting to answer the state’s questions because I said, “Why should our tax dollars go to a mom who created this problem by smoking crack when she was pregnant with James?” And yes, many of these kids had learning issues as well.
I believe most districts do this. They all can accommodate many firms of special needs but severe and profound need children are probably sent to a central location where specialized staff is there to work with them.
Not much different than special needs folks in any community. Most can be handled satisfactorily in a home or group home setting with family or other special needs folks and staff. The more seveekynand profound handicapped require a soeciak setting abs/or living condition.
No sir, the only school that has 504 plans or IEP's is our newest district building. This is where the kids get transportation to who need that specialized help. Our Catholic grade school provides volunteers tutors for kids who need some extra help, but are not on 504 plans or IEP's.
There is a difference between sending all your special needs kids to one location and consolidating your highest need kids to deliver the best services possible.
Kids with a speech development delay are classified as special Ed, but if you’re sending them to a centralized location, that’s asinine.
This may be an Indiana vs Iowa difference. We are classifying very few if any kids who only have behavior issues as disabled. And it is not an expressly funded exceptionally in Indiana.
I feel like everyone skipped over the fact that Iowa public schools are ranked almost last in the nation. Something needs to change. The status quo is a failure.
A study of Indiana’s voucher program has proven to not improve academic performance. However, feel free to try it.
I honestly hope they shelve this here in Iowa. Too many concerns with it at this point.
No way this fits the least restrictive environment part of an iep.
I have had kids that wear diapers, can’t read past a 1st grade level in my general education classes.
Indiana’s public schools are ranked far ahead of Iowa’s. If there is a failure, it is Iowa’s current system.
The voucher system has little to do with those rankings. Vouchers benefit private schools.
In Cedar Rapids they have Metro which is for students with behavioral “disorders”. In our school district in Minnesota all the kids with learning disabilities such as downs attend a certain school where they have specialists.
Vouchers benefit families ability to choose the school situation that best fits their needs.
There are levels of learning disabilities. Most are spending the majority of their time in a regular classroom with support from specialists. Very few if any spend the majority of time in special education classroom. As @stout1 mentioned, students with learning/behavioral/medical/etc. issues are required to be taught in the least restrictive environment. We no longer have "special ed" students taught behind closed doors down the hall.
It appears that approach might be lowering the quality of education for everyone.
Iowa used to be known for great schools. New approach, now we’re almost last in public school education.
Iowa used to be known for great schools. New approach, now we’re almost last in public school education.
In Indiana it actually defrays the costs of well off people who have already chosen to send their kids to private schools. Very few of the dollars help kids trapped in poor schools.
It also reduces the support public schools receive.
How does that make Indiana’s public schools better?
There’s that private school mindset to avoid those kids.
If that’s the case then I disagree with it if they are a distraction for other students. If a para is having to jump in to keep that child in check then that’s a distraction for the others.
This isn’t even remotely close to being true. Stop lying. It’s pathetic. Like I said, you don’t know shit about education in Iowa. You just front. It’s nonsense.
In what category? Overall they rank about 15-20ish. Standardized test wise they are top 5ish.
These may have changed a little here and there as I know that was as of a couple years ago, but I doubt much.
Last? According to whom? And if Iowa is last, it is totally on Iowa’s Republican politics and their funding mechanism. A few years ago, Iowa schools abs Wisconsin schools were ranked #1 and #2 nationally. Pine…I seriously doubt your statement here. Maybe in “your” circles Iowa education is as poor as you say…. But you cannot prove it simply by saying so.
It's a federal law for public schools.
Least Restrictive Environment (LRE) is the requirement in federal law that students with disabilities receive their education, to the maximum extent appropriate, with nondisabled peers and that special education students are not removed from regular classes unless, even with supplemental aids and services, education in regular classes cannot be achieved satisfactorily. [20 United States Code (U.S.C.) Sec. 1412(a)(5)(A); 34 Code of Federal Regulations (C.F.R.) Sec. 300.114.]
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