Nine of the thirteen Iowa commits had ISU offers.
ZERO of the twelve ISU commits had Iowa offers.
A storm is brewing.
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Nine of the thirteen Iowa commits had ISU offers.
ZERO of the twelve ISU commits had Iowa offers.
A storm is brewing.
Totally agree and the general obnoxiousness of many ISU fans has me not hoping for them to be good any time soon. I get castigated for saying this here, but I don't think it's really possible for both Iowa and ISU to be good (like 9-10 win season good) at the same time for any amount of time. Just a limited amount of top level players in state and in our region. I know, I'm a bad person for not wishing ISU luck in every game except against Iowa. It doesn't mean I don't respect how Campbell coaches, I do. I just don't want them to be good.
Whenever I think of Matt Campbell I think of his first stint down at the ACES coaches clinic down at Des Moines (large gathering of Iowa High School Football Coaches). He did his chat/presentation and was no where to be found (same with his staff). On the other hand, you couldn't go anywhere without seeing/interacting with an Iowa coach. May be a small scale to the average folk...but it goes a long ways in showing how one program embraces the state while the other, at least at first, thought they could be successful without having the state programs/players as their foundation.
I have an uncle who was a Dowling assistant for years. He is biased and an Iowa fan, so take it with a grain of salt, but he attended a lot of camps put on by Ferentz and staff and raved every time about their professionalism and how approachable they were.
I have an uncle who was a Dowling assistant for years. He is biased and an Iowa fan, so take it with a grain of salt, but he attended a lot of camps put on by Ferentz and staff and raved every time about their professionalism and how approachable they were.
Yeah let's not start bragging about stars and look like total hypocrites.....Damn, you guys missed the memo... those 2* kids from Florida are wayyyyyyyyyyyy better than any 4* kid from Iowa.
Yeah let's not start bragging about stars and look like total hypocrites.....
Whoosh.Yeah let's not start bragging about stars and look like total hypocrites.....
You might want to check the kid's offer list before you make that comment.Agreed 100%... we’ve been pounding our chests yelling stars don’t matter for years. I fact I’d take that 2* RB from Florida in a heartbeat.
Yes tho.... we are kicking their ass on the field and in recruiting haha
Yeah let's not start bragging about stars and look like total hypocrites.....
That's nice, but we will never pull a class in like Ohio State is this year. A 5.8 and 5.7 have very little difference. Good work ethic can easily be the difference. Same with a 5.5 vs a 5.4. prolly same with a 6.1 and 6.0. yes I guess it's safe to say a 6.1 has much higher chance to succeed vs a 5.4.Stars matter.
There's a reason why OSU, Clemson, LSU and Bama win.
That's nice, but we will never pull a class in like Ohio State is this year. A 5.8 and 5.7 have very little difference. Good work ethic can easily be the difference. Same with a 5.5 vs a 5.4. prolly same with a 6.1 and 6.0. yes I guess it's safe to say a 6.1 has much higher chance to succeed vs a 5.4.
Osu has 11 top 100 players already according to 247. No point even comparing that to most programs....
My point is stars aren't everything. If you want to compare us to Ohio State and Alabama that is fine. Even then I'm sure they take three stars they would rather have over four...So what does this have to do with ISU and hypocrisy?
We always recruit better than them and stars matter.
You're pontificating off topic.
My point is stars aren't everything. If you want to compare us to Ohio State and Alabama that is fine. Even then I'm sure they take three stars they would rather have over four...
There are also turds that bling. Did you know fsu and mi had top 5 classes in 16 and 17? They sure don't show on the field...fsu much more.Never said we were Alabama.
The point is there is a relationship between recruiting rankings and winning. Sure there are diamonds in the rough but they are the exception not the rule.
I have an uncle who was a Dowling assistant for years. He is biased and an Iowa fan, so take it with a grain of salt, but he attended a lot of camps put on by Ferentz and staff and raved every time about their professionalism and how approachable they were.
Nine of the thirteen Iowa commits had ISU offers.
ZERO of the twelve ISU commits had Iowa offers.
A storm is brewing.
Which recruit? And yeah of course he would want to go to Iowa. How many linemen have Iowa State put into the NFL vs us?IA17 - what hurts worse for them has to be the fact that the OL who they think will be the next Outland Trophy winner will commit to Iowa in a second if we ever offer. I almost want him to commit to the Clones and then we offer and he flips. Send the ISU trolls into a meltdown.
They are also a basketball school!? BahahahaCan update that now to 10 of 14 of commits had ISU offers.
Has to hurt last 2 being WR since according to clone fans they are a WR school now because of Lazard and Butler.
Oh yeah... I remember hearing about him. The issue is that we're pretty much set this year on OL recruits and they're all fantastic. I don't really see Maro fitting in tbh. It does suck to not give an in-state guy a chance, but with all of the other in-state talent as well as the out-of-state guys we picked up, that's kind of how the cookie crumbles.Not - Tyler Maro from Iowa. I think he is good. Not at the same level of our current OL recruits but still good. Iowa has not offered. He is getting some steam. Nebby, Oregon, UCLA have offered. ISU thinks they have him. Wait to see if Iowa offers what happens. But I think we are waiting on a couple others that the staff is higher on.
If he grew up a clown, he would have committed. No way a hawk would choose them when they have other options....especially those options!Not - Tyler Maro from Iowa. I think he is good. Not at the same level of our current OL recruits but still good. Iowa has not offered. He is getting some steam. Nebby, Oregon, UCLA have offered. ISU thinks they have him. Wait to see if Iowa offers what happens. But I think we are waiting on a couple others that the staff is higher on.
Not - Tyler Maro from Iowa. I think he is good. Not at the same level of our current OL recruits but still good. Iowa has not offered. He is getting some steam. Nebby, Oregon, UCLA have offered. ISU thinks they have him. Wait to see if Iowa offers what happens. But I think we are waiting on a couple others that the staff is higher on.
I just looked further into the Iowa vs ISU Draft pick situation because I was curious and bored.Can update that now to 10 of 14 of commits had ISU offers.
Has to hurt last 2 being WR since according to clone fans they are a WR school now because of Lazard and Butler.
That's nice, but we will never pull a class in like Ohio State is this year. A 5.8 and 5.7 have very little difference. Good work ethic can easily be the difference. Same with a 5.5 vs a 5.4. prolly same with a 6.1 and 6.0. yes I guess it's safe to say a 6.1 has much higher chance to succeed vs a 5.4.
Osu has 11 top 100 players already according to 247. No point even comparing that to most programs....
However, how does that explain Minnesota's PJ Fleck with some decent recruiting? He's the biggest "snake oil salesman" around.Maybe thinking too much about this... but Iowa's success, both on the field and producing pro players, combined with a sensible coach probably makes these kids and more importantly their parents comfortable with choosing the Iowa program during this crisis.
Flashy slogans and snake oil salesmen probably doesn't make families feel as good.
I’ve had a few chances to talk with coach Ferentz at their coaching clinics as well as coach Morgan at our schools. We’d had a few walk ones and doctors play/work with the program. He always has gone out of his way to help/talk/make us feel welcomed: it’s amazing the sincerity they’ve always displayed.I have an uncle who was a Dowling assistant for years. He is biased and an Iowa fan, so take it with a grain of salt, but he attended a lot of camps put on by Ferentz and staff and raved every time about their professionalism and how approachable they were.
I just looked further into the Iowa vs ISU Draft pick situation because I was curious and bored.
In the last 10 NFL drafts, Iowa has had 36 players picked vs. 6 for ISU. Each has had 1 WR drafted. Before Hakeem Butler, the Cyclones hadn't had a WR drafted since 1985.
After learning this information I don't think ISU should be taking the "If you choose us we'll give you the best chance to play in the NFL" recruiting angle for any prospect. Ever. Sell them on the quality of water in Ames or the free Happy Meal after the games but do not bring up the NFL
I think the Hawks need to go ahead and offer Tyler Maro. There is always attrition and injuries that occur with offensive linemen and it would be a shame to pass on a local kid who is as good as he is. Let's get Tyler in this class ! Go Hawks !Not - Tyler Maro from Iowa. I think he is good. Not at the same level of our current OL recruits but still good. Iowa has not offered. He is getting some steam. Nebby, Oregon, UCLA have offered. ISU thinks they have him. Wait to see if Iowa offers what happens. But I think we are waiting on a couple others that the staff is higher on.