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Iowa vs Ohio State Predictions

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Flowrestling Rankings 1/21 Dual Score
WEIGHT RANKED IOWA Match Score OHIO STATE RANKED IA O$U
125 29 Joey Cruz 2 7 Brendan McCrone 12 0 3
133 2 Drake Ayala 8 5 Nic Bouzakis 10 3 3
141 20 Ryder Block 3 14 Jesse Mendez 1 3 7
149 4 Kyle Parco 7 5 Dylan D'Emilio 10 6 7
157 NA Miguel Estrada 4 9 Sammy Sasso 19 6 10
165 2 Mikey Caliendo 14 6 Paddy Gallagher 13 10 10
174 5 Patrick Kennedy 8 6 Carson Kharchla 6 13 10
184 5 Gabe Arnold 4 3 Ryder Rogotzke 20 16 10
197 1 Stephen Buchanan 11 2 Seth Shumate 22 19 10
285 11 Ben Kueter 4 6 Nick Feldman 5 19 13


Interesting match-up at 133, I didn't find any past matchup between the two.
 
Flowrestling Rankings 1/21 Dual Score
WEIGHT RANKED IOWA Match Score OHIO STATE RANKED IA O$U
125 29 Joey Cruz 2 7 Brendan McCrone 12 0 3
133 2 Drake Ayala 8 5 Nic Bouzakis 10 3 3
141 20 Ryder Block 3 14 Jesse Mendez 1 3 7
149 4 Kyle Parco 7 5 Dylan D'Emilio 10 6 7
157 NA Miguel Estrada 4 9 Sammy Sasso 19 6 10
165 2 Mikey Caliendo 14 6 Paddy Gallagher 13 10 10
174 5 Patrick Kennedy 8 6 Carson Kharchla 6 13 10
184 5 Gabe Arnold 4 3 Ryder Rogotzke 20 16 10
197 1 Stephen Buchanan 11 2 Seth Shumate 22 19 10
285 11 Ben Kueter 4 6 Nick Feldman 5 19 13


Interesting match-up at 133, I didn't find any past matchup between the two.
Well That looks like A$$, should of previewed it before posting....how do I delete it?
 
McCrone is a pinner. Cruz will need to be very careful in that one.

Looking forward to 285. Feldman is a smaller heavyweight, but powerful. Hopefully, Kueter wrestles well.
 
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Well That looks like A$$, should have previewed it before posting....how do I delete it?
If you push the … button it will give you the option to edit or delete. Looks like you could just go through and delete the crazy numbers and leave the team scores but I think most of us can figure out the last 2 numbers are the team scores.
 
I get how a computer algorithm calculating an expected value margin comes up with Gabe 4-3 over Rogotzke, but the reality is that the distribution is more like 80% Major for Gabe, 10% Pin for Rogotzke, and only 10% a close match with the way Rogotzke wrestles.
 
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At 157, what is Estrada's status re: redshirt? He's had 6 dates, 3 tournaments and 3 duals. Does Soldier Salute count as unattached? Or did he burn his RS already (which would seem to me to be stupid unless Teemer is out for the season, which doesn't appear to be the case)? If he's still at 5 attached and eligible for RS, it seems unlikely that he'll go, which means Teemer will be back or they have to go off the sheet to get someone else. If Estrada already burned the shirt, it's much more likely he'll go for this one.
 
At 157, what is Estrada's status re: redshirt? He's had 6 dates, 3 tournaments and 3 duals. Does Soldier Salute count as unattached? Or did he burn his RS already (which would seem to me to be stupid unless Teemer is out for the season, which doesn't appear to be the case)? If he's still at 5 attached and eligible for RS, it seems unlikely that he'll go, which means Teemer will be back or they have to go off the sheet to get someone else. If Estrada already burned the shirt, it's much more likely he'll go for this one.
I believe his last meet brought him to his limit. I would sincerely doubt we see him against OSU.
 
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I believe his last meet brought him to his limit. I would sincerely doubt we see him against OSU.
Right. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong about the nuances of the NCAA's dumb rules, but I think first semester tournaments count as attached but second semester can be unattached, and all duals count. That adds up to 5 with 2 first semester tournaments and 3 duals. The one in question is Soldier Salute, which was during the semester break. If that counts as first semester / attached, then he's already over the limit. If not, then I agree with you.
 
Right. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong about the nuances of the NCAA's dumb rules, but I think first semester tournaments count as attached but second semester can be unattached, and all duals count. That adds up to 5 with 2 first semester tournaments and 3 duals. The one in question is Soldier Salute, which was during the semester break. If that counts as first semester / attached, then he's already over the limit. If not, then I agree with you.
He was unattached according to the results posting.
 
Flowrestling Rankings 1/21 Dual Score
WEIGHT RANKED IOWA Match Score OHIO STATE RANKED IA O$U
125 29 Joey Cruz 2 7 Brendan McCrone 12 0 3
133 2 Drake Ayala 8 5 Nic Bouzakis 10 3 3
141 20 Ryder Block 3 14 Jesse Mendez 1 3 7
149 4 Kyle Parco 7 5 Dylan D'Emilio 10 6 7
157 NA Miguel Estrada 4 9 Sammy Sasso 19 6 10
165 2 Mikey Caliendo 14 6 Paddy Gallagher 13 10 10
174 5 Patrick Kennedy 8 6 Carson Kharchla 6 13 10
184 5 Gabe Arnold 4 3 Ryder Rogotzke 20 16 10
197 1 Stephen Buchanan 11 2 Seth Shumate 22 19 10
285 11 Ben Kueter 4 6 Nick Feldman 5 19 13


Interesting match-up at 133, I didn't find any past matchup between the two.
I think we win at 57 regardless of who faces Sasso. Sadly this is a much different Sammy following his injures...and Estrada is showing he has real grit. Also, like someone else indicated I think Gabe will do some damage at 84, perhaps a MD. I don't think he'll want to keep it that close.
 
Flowrestling Rankings 1/21 Dual Score
WEIGHT RANKED IOWA Match Score OHIO STATE RANKED IA O$U
125 29 Joey Cruz 2 7 Brendan McCrone 12 0 3
133 2 Drake Ayala 8 5 Nic Bouzakis 10 3 3
141 20 Ryder Block 3 14 Jesse Mendez 1 3 7
149 4 Kyle Parco 7 5 Dylan D'Emilio 10 6 7
157 NA Miguel Estrada 4 9 Sammy Sasso 19 6 10
165 2 Mikey Caliendo 14 6 Paddy Gallagher 13 10 10
174 5 Patrick Kennedy 8 6 Carson Kharchla 6 13 10
184 5 Gabe Arnold 4 3 Ryder Rogotzke 20 16 10
197 1 Stephen Buchanan 11 2 Seth Shumate 22 19 10
285 11 Ben Kueter 4 6 Nick Feldman 5 19 13


Interesting match-up at 133, I didn't find any past matchup between the two.
Could be close if Ohio state wins , 25,33,57,74,hwt
 
Could be close if Ohio state wins , 25,33,57,74,hwt
141 is pretty much a lock for bonus points for them so if the Hawks lose all those weights they lose the meet. This one is going to be a nail biter, glad were in Carver.
 
I think we win at 57 regardless of who faces Sasso. Sadly this is a much different Sammy following his injures...and Estrada is showing he has real grit. Also, like someone else indicated I think Gabe will do some damage at 84, perhaps a MD. I don't think he'll want to keep it that close.
Sasso actually looked a lot better at 157 this weekend (despite losing to Blaze). He was just way too small for 165. He's obviously still not the national contender he was pre-shooting, but I wouldn't be too confident about a freshman 149 backup wrestling up against him. I don't think Sasso can beat a healthy Teemer at this point, but he can probably take Estrada (doubt you'll see him, though) or KV or whoever else might be there if Teemer isn't ready.
 
141 is pretty much a lock for bonus points for them so if the Hawks lose all those weights they lose the meet. This one is going to be a nail biter, glad were in Carver.
I think 125 and 141 are the only ones where tOSU really has a clear advantage (but, yeah, put 5 on the board for Mendez, he's been a machine...). Sasso vs a backup is probably pretty good for them, but not Teemer. HWT is probably a very small advantage but closer to a toss up, but 133, 149, 165, 174, 184, and 197 should all be in Iowa's favor (plus 157 if Teemer is back). There will be some good bouts, but I don't expect a real close team score.
 
I think 125 and 141 are the only ones where tOSU really has a clear advantage (but, yeah, put 5 on the board for Mendez, he's been a machine...). Sasso vs a backup is probably pretty good for them, but not Teemer. HWT is probably a very small advantage but closer to a toss up, but 133, 149, 165, 174, 184, and 197 should all be in Iowa's favor (plus 157 if Teemer is back). There will be some good bouts, but I don't expect a real close team score.
Don’t sleep on Ohio state.. some reason they match up really well with Iowa this year.. like u said, 125, 41 they are clear favs.. they probably win hwt .. that’s 3 probables… 57.. if Teemer doesn’t go don’t think it’s crazy Sasso beats fresh Estrada… 74… wasn’t PK and Karchala always been pretty close? I always viewed them both in same tier for some reason but yeah not crazy if Karchala wins… that’s 5:5 split plus a gtd bonus win from Mendez….

Don’t think Ayala ever faced off Bouzakis.. obv Ayala favored but if for some reason Bouzakis wins I’d start sweating…

Oh also I forgot, does Davino have any available matches left, if Ohio state could send him out that would be very interesting option…
 
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Don’t sleep on Ohio state.. some reason they match up really well with Iowa this year.. like u said, 125, 41 they are clear favs.. they probably win hwt .. that’s 3 probables… 57.. if Teemer doesn’t go don’t think it’s crazy Sasso beats fresh Estrada… 74… wasn’t PK and Karchala always been pretty close? I always viewed them both in same tier for some reason but yeah not crazy if Karchala wins… that’s 5:5 split plus a gtd bonus win from Mendez….

Don’t think Ayala ever faced off Bouzakis.. obv Ayala favored but if for some reason Bouzakis wins I’d start sweating…

Oh also I forgot, does Davino have any available matches left, if Ohio state could send him out that would be very interesting option…
Davino is definitely a wild card here. If the dual starts at 125 and they use Davino and he wins so they're up 11-0 after 3 matches, it'll make people sweat a little, but I still think it's much more likely a comfortable Iowa win with a bunch of intriguing matchups. With 174, over the last two years, PK has improved, Kharchla has struggled with injuries and seems pretty stagnant.
 
Could be close if Ohio state wins , 25,33,57,74,hwt

Don’t sleep on Ohio state.. some reason they match up really well with Iowa this year.. like u said, 125, 41 they are clear favs.. they probably win hwt .. that’s 3 probables… 57.. if Teemer doesn’t go don’t think it’s crazy Sasso beats fresh Estrada… 74… wasn’t PK and Karchala always been pretty close? I always viewed them both in same tier for some reason but yeah not crazy if Karchala wins… that’s 5:5 split plus a gtd bonus win from Mendez….

Don’t think Ayala ever faced off Bouzakis.. obv Ayala favored but if for some reason Bouzakis wins I’d start sweating…

Oh also I forgot, does Davino have any available matches left, if Ohio state could send him out that would be very interesting option…
I thought Illini could have been closer but we took care of business. Saturday looks scary on paper.

OSU heavily favored at 25 and 41. If no Teemer, add 57 to that category. They are also favored at HWT.

We are heavily favored at 97 and 84 (184 is scary) and favored at 49. We'd be favorites at 57 with Teemer and should be favored at 65, no idea what to make of Paddy at 65.

33 and 74 are toss-ups

This could be back and forth all day!
 
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I thought Illini could have been closer but we took care of business. Saturday looks scary on paper.

OSU heavily favored at 25 and 41. If no Teemer, add 57 to that category. They are also favored at HWT.

We are heavily favored at 97 and 84 (184 is scary) and favored at 49. We'd be favorites at 57 with Teemer and should be favored at 65, no idea what to make of Paddy at 65.

33 and 74 are toss-ups

This could be back and forth all day!
In what world is 133 a tossup? Add 165 to the heavily favored list
 
In what world is 133 a tossup? Add 165 to the heavily favored list
Oh give me a break. Bouzakis is a highly ranked opponent. I've seen him as high as #5 (although that is WS so take it for what it's worth). That aside, we all know Bouzakis is very dangerous. I hope Drake wears him down and puts it on on PER3.

Yes Mikey is heavily favored and a TD machine. Again hoping he schools Paddy or whoever Ohio throws out there.

Drake stays a toss-up. Mikey moves to heavily favored.
 
I thought Illini could have been closer but we took care of business. Saturday looks scary on paper.

OSU heavily favored at 25 and 41. If no Teemer, add 57 to that category. They are also favored at HWT.

We are heavily favored at 97 and 84 (184 is scary) and favored at 49. We'd be favorites at 57 with Teemer and should be favored at 65, no idea what to make of Paddy at 65.

33 and 74 are toss-ups

This could be back and forth all day!
I wanna say this is the best Illinois team, on paper, I remembered for a long time.. they realistically, only had chances to win 5 matches 25,33,41,57,hwt w no real chance for bonus pts. So even if they split 5:5 at best, they will still lose on bonus pts.

If teemer is out, the big difference vs Ohio state is they can win 6 matches and can get bonus from 41 and 25 in case it splits 5:5.. and Iowa can get bonus from 65, 84, and 97.

If teemer is out I’d b sweating bc, like u said, Ohio state would be favored 25, 41, 57(would sasso be fav over Estrada?), Hwt .. that’s already 4 matches w 1-4 pt bonus.

Nothing to make of Paddy at 65. Caliendo prob major maybe tech. 84 and 97 ez Iowa. These 3 matches between 1-5 pt bonus. Parco should win maybe major is in play.

33 and 74 I got as Iowa slight fav. Think Davino got better shot so if I’m Ohio state I’m rollin out the blue chipper. PK and Karchla rank like 6th and 7th but some reason doesn’t feel like tossup . More like a lean PK .. but yeah the pt is if Ohio state wins one of these +25,41,57,hwt then it will come down to bonus pts.

On the other hand Ohio state might only win 25, 41, and hwt and Iowa crushes them.
 
Oh give me a break. Bouzakis is a highly ranked opponent. I've seen him as high as #5 (although that is WS so take it for what it's worth). That aside, we all know Bouzakis is very dangerous. I hope Drake wears him down and puts it on on PER3.

Yes Mikey is heavily favored and a TD machine. Again hoping he schools Paddy or whoever Ohio throws out there.

Drake stays a toss-up. Mikey moves to heavily favored.
A tough match doesn’t make it a toss-up. Drake is a favorite over anyone they put out.
 
I think we can quit with the hypotheticals at ‘57. Teemer will be back barring anything bad happening between today and Saturday.
Good news. He will likely be extra hyped up for this return on his journey. I don't ever remember seeing anyone throw a half in and complete a cow catcher feet to back while the other guy has his single leg up in the air. I think that was Bellarmine and was some really good stuff. Can't wait to see what's in store for him going forward.
 
Don’t sleep on Ohio state.. some reason they match up really well with Iowa this year.. like u said, 125, 41 they are clear favs.. they probably win hwt .. that’s 3 probables… 57.. if Teemer doesn’t go don’t think it’s crazy Sasso beats fresh Estrada… 74… wasn’t PK and Karchala always been pretty close? I always viewed them both in same tier for some reason but yeah not crazy if Karchala wins… that’s 5:5 split plus a gtd bonus win from Mendez….

Don’t think Ayala ever faced off Bouzakis.. obv Ayala favored but if for some reason Bouzakis wins I’d start sweating…

Oh also I forgot, does Davino have any available matches left, if Ohio state could send him out that would be very interesting option…
This looks like an Iowa fan finding the path to a victory over PSU.
 
In what world is 133 a tossup? Add 165 to the heavily favored list

In the world where Drake Ayala owns a loss to Tyler Knox this year.

I’m on your side and hope you’re right and Drake takes care of business and leaves no doubt, but it’s far from a sure thing. He’s not head and shoulders above the field by any means, and Bouzakis is no slouch.

I don’t put much stock in using common opponent comparisons for making predictions, but Bouzakis did major Knox this year FWIW
 
hope they send block to an open tournament this weekend. he needs some reps and would benefit more from that than facing mendez. especially from a qualification standpoint
 
125: mccrone. i would not be surprised at all to see an upset though. 0-3
133: ayala 3-3
141: mendez md over schriever 3-7
149: parco md 7-7
157: teemer. i think a md could be in play but will say dec. 10-7
165: caliendo md 14-7
174: kennedy 17-7
184: gabe 20-7
197: buchanan md 24-7
Hwt: feldman 27-7
 
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I saw the stat where Kennedy was 6 and 0 with 6 bonus including over 4 ranked guys prior to Illinois . If he keeps doing that he'll be really hard to pull out of line up. I would say most of it is in Kennedy's hands.
Really interested in how he does Saturday. I think a 7-3 two takedown to none win shows he can be a high AA this year and I don't know how you pull him at that point.
 
hope they send block to an open tournament this weekend. he needs some reps and would benefit more from that than facing mendez. especially from a qualification standpoint
Wouldn’t mind them sending out Schriever for one last dual. But, knowing how competitive athletes are at this level, Block will be wanting his shot at Mendez.
 
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