Could Iowa possibly get a game like Wisconsin did vs Alabama to kickoff the season. Some high profile SEC team to kick off the season. I would love to see it.
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Not really. not with 9 conference games and Iowa State. At best, we could play Bama or Texas at a "neutral" site, but we need home games for financial reasons.
They "could" but they won't, at least under the current regime.
Also, starting the year off with a guaranteed loss doesn't sound particularly appealing.
Also, starting the year off with a guaranteed loss doesn't sound particularly appealing.
I'm more of a glass half full guy. So I don't dismiss the Hawks as easily as you do.
You also apparently don't pay a lot of attention to football.
Either way, it's moot as long as KF is in charge. He apparently sees things more along the lines of how I do. I know that will be tough for you to comprehend and accept, but it's an aboslute fact.
Deal with it.
First off, Your opinion is not fact, It is your opinion, 2nd, If you are trying to be a complete douche, Congrats, Mission accomplished.
The KEY being the Iowa State boondoggle. I'm not actually opposed to playing them fairly regular, but I don't think it should be every year. Yes, both teams are in Power 5 conferences, but it limits BOTH teams in terms of national exposure and things of that nature, IMO. Iowa has played Pitt several times now, who isn't exactly a national pushover.
The "problem" is Iowa State, and will be going forward if you're looking for "National" tests in the early season against ranked out of state teams, with the BIG going to a 9 game conference schedule. Yes, under Ferentz Iowa State has won far more games than it ever should have, and Ferentz should have been canned before now, if not for the contract albatross, on that record alone, IMO.
If Iowa is going to pay their Head Coach 4 million dollars a year, you absolutely should be testing yourself against the "big boys" of College Football in the non-conference schedule. IF you want to be thought of as a serious national player, you put on your big boy pants and take on all comers. If not, you get no respect over time, nor deserve much if any, as this year has clearly shown.
It's a fact that we don't play in those type of games, and it's well known is that the reason is because Kirk and Gary don't want to.
Try paying attention sometime, moron.
Funny, story I heard was we couldn't get any big teams to agree to a home and home. They would only accept us going there.
That may have been Bowlsby, but big time teams don't want to play at Iowa.
That may have been Bowlsby, but big time teams don't want to play at Iowa.
I think if the opportunity for one of those Labor Day weekend "KIckoff Classic" type games against an SEC team came up, Iowa would give up a home game for it. Don't have the numbers in front of me, but from what I understand, those schools are paid a pretty penny for those games. Besides, any actual loss in revenue would be made up for with the exposure. Of course, IMO, Iowa would need to have a run of success similar to '02-'04 to get that kind of invite.
Name me the last SEC team to play at game at a Big Ten stadium?
The SEC honks only want Big Ten teams to play in the South.
They don't want to play up North.
Remember, recently, Vanderbilt cancelled their 2-game series between 2013-2014 with Northwestern.
We are locked into Iowa State until 2021. The article below says it all.
http://www.thegazette.com/2014/02/14/wyoming-deal-with-it
To summarize, Iowa needs seven home games a year to make budget. With five road games in the Big Ten every other year and at Iowa State every other year, the only way to get seven home games is to schedule cupcakes.
The real reason is that Barta is a puXXX.
Barta basically said some fans aren't happy with it but he doesn't care.
http://www.thegazette.com/2014/02/14/wyoming-deal-with-it
To summarize, Iowa needs seven home games a year to make budget. With five road games in the Big Ten every other year and at Iowa State every other year, the only way to get seven home games is to schedule cupcakes.
The real reason is that Barta is a puXXX.
Barta basically said some fans aren't happy with it but he doesn't care.
If I remember correctly there have been at few occasions where Iowa was supposed to play a team and they backed out...the reason we played Northern Iowa is because Missouri actually backed out of their commitment to play us and actually paid Iowa to not play......on a side note stop being a douche
That was with an eight game Big Ten schedule. Can't do that now with a ninth Big Ten game.
Honestly I was just thinking right now Iowa is getting a lot of play nationally, Most of it not so good, But they are being noticed, It just seems like the timing would be ideal for Iowa to play a good SEC team in a showcase game. The haters can watch so they can hope they can say "see I knew Iowa wasn't any good" and I think with the fact that we have just opened the new football facility it would be a good time to get Iowa's name out there as much as possible in regard to helping with recruiting. I just think the timing could be right, It's not enough that Iowa has garnered as much national attention as they have the past couple of weeks, It will grow if the Hawks keep winning.
Think Alabama played at penn st the year where all the Sandusky stuff happened at end of season. But was a very rare case of sec playing somewhere besides the south in September.
One thing I'll applaud nick Saban for he was one of a few coaches in favor of 9 game conf schedule for sec that got turned down. So next year while big 10, 12 and PAC 12 all have 9 conf games they'll still be playing 8 with 4 non conf games. And as we saw this year not like sec is going out of its way to play tough teams. Only one I think is LSU will play Wisconsin at some neutral venue.
Most SEC teams play crap schedules. However, there are exceptions. Alabama played Wisconsin this year. Florida plays FSU every year. Tennessee played Oklahoma. South Carolina is playing both North Carolina and Clemson. So it happens. However, most SEC teams play 3 cupcakes and one BCS non conference. Whereas Big Ten teams starting next year will play 9 Big Ten teams and most of them play at least one BCS non conference game to bring the number of power 5 games to 10 vs. 9 for the SEC.
Yep, Arkansas scheduled Texas Tech and 3 rent a wins. Unfortunately, one of those rent a wins was Toledo, and that didn't work out so well for the Hogs.
We pick up a home and home with Michigan in a couple of years. I love those kind of games.
Playing an elite team early is extremely high risk to moderate reward. Sure if you win it could be nice. That team could also tank, and leave you out to dry, like Oregon. A loss almost ends your chances. The key is scheduling a moderate 20-40 team.
We would have to be good for a while to get a deal like Wisconsin vs Alabama...but not for all of those early games...If I remember correctly the first game Ferentz coached here was a neutral site game at Arrowhead vs Kansas State and we sucked then.
The risk is only if you are trying to win a National Championship, or worried about being bowl eligible at the end of the season. About every 30 to 40 years Iowa has some National Championship thoughts.
For teams like Alabama, Ohio St, etc it can be a risky proposition.
Iowa has been relevant in NC talk in 2015, 2009, and 2002 just in recent memory.
I don't really mind our non-conference schedule, playing teams like Pitt or Arizona. As a team which has typically been a "slow starter, get better as the year progresses," I wouldn't really care to play a higher level SEC team.
Our conference schedule will usually be a lot tougher than it has been this year anyways.
Our conference schedule will usually be a lot tougher than it has been this year anyways.
We have traveled to Arizona and played a couple of Pac 12 schools during KF tenure. We have also played Pitt in the non-conf. as well.
Iowa has a natural rivalry with another BCS team ISU, so therefore Iowa needs to make sure they get home games. I would not be opposed to playing a home/home with an SEC, PAC 12, or ACC team in the future along with ISU. I say give up a home game if you have to (TV$$ is increasing every year).
The whole problem is a lot of the SEC teams don't want to travel north. If you look at their schedules they never travel to the north for games, they always like to play at their home stadiums or at a neutral site (close to their stadiums).
The SEC does not travel at all in the non-conf. They think their league is tough enough that they do not need to travel or get into any sort of agreement with other teams.
I mean hell the SEC gets all the bowl games their backyard. I mean the last couple of times we have had to play in a bowl game, its been against the home state school or a school within a days drive of the stadium. Meanwhile Iowa fans have to travel something like 18-24 hours to the stadium.
I would love to see the SEC come up north in November and play football. Half of those kids wouldn't even get out of the bus.
Given the declining ticket sales around the country, it'd probably make sense for Iowa to give up a home game if it means signing up an attractive P5 home and home. Six home games with OOC against ISU and Arizona may result in higher revenue than 7 games with ISU, North Texas and Illinois State
I did go to the Orange Bowl game against USC and I don't remember anytime that year, after the loss to Iowa State, that the Hawks were in the National Championship picture.
In 2009, we were a possibility until the back to back losses to NW and Ohio St.
Then you would probably have to go back to 1985.
I just hope we keep winning and get a chance this year. And I don't think there is anyway that a 13-0 Big Ten champion would be left out of the playoff. I doubt that a 12-1 Big Ten Champ will make the top 4 this year.
Of course, there is a lot of football left.
In 2002, Iowa was AP-ranked #3 going into the bowls. That would likely result in a CFP berth.
In 2002 Iowa was ranked #3 going into the bowl game. Using the current system the 2002 squad is probably in the CFP. In the BCS era they were only a loss or two away from getting the nod.
Again, in 2009, Iowa was ranked #4 before Stanzi got hurt. That squad had a legit chance to run the table if he doesn't get hurt.
This years squad is ranked #9 and should continue to rise if they keep winning and others start knocking themselves off.
That is 3 times in less than 15 years that Iowa has had legit NC thoughts late in the season.
OSU scored a TD (against Purdue?) on a 4th down all-or-nothing play. Iowa would have played Miami for the BCS title had they failed. OSU had a few other tight games down the stretch.
While I don't think it's likely Iowa adds another power 5 game any time soon, I think a game with Missouri every year or every other year would be kind of cool. I don't imagine they'd have a huge problem coming north (most of these are played in September anyway so who really cares imo), but St. Louis is also putting in a fancy new stadium that may not have a team to play in it. A "neutral" site game with revenue sharing down there would be kind of cool.
My biggest thing with scheduling is if you aren't going to get credit for beating the teams, don't take the chance of losing to them. The SEC has nailed this. If you're going to play a team nobody respects (ISU or a MAC school), make it a truly terrible team that has no shot to stay within 3 scores (unless you're Auburn and the nobody is Jacksonville St haha). If you're going to risk losing, be smart about it and make it a team you'll get credit for beating (like Wisconsin, Florida St and Clemson) and you don't look like a complete fool if you lose. It's tough to find partners willing to do that but if you're willing to give up some revenue it can be done. You just have to look at the budget over more than a one year period to justify it.
My biggest thing with scheduling is if you aren't going to get credit for beating the teams, don't take the chance of losing to them. The SEC has nailed this. If you're going to play a team nobody respects (ISU or a MAC school), make it a truly terrible team that has no shot to stay within 3 scores (unless you're Auburn and the nobody is Jacksonville St haha). If you're going to risk losing, be smart about it and make it a team you'll get credit for beating (like Wisconsin, Florida St and Clemson) and you don't look like a complete fool if you lose. It's tough to find partners willing to do that but if you're willing to give up some revenue it can be done. You just have to look at the budget over more than a one year period to justify it.
Coo loo coo coo coo coo coo coo!Iowa vs. SECTV?
That doesn't sound particularly fair. First off, most of them are pretty old now. Plus some of them are women. And of course their biggest guy passed away quite a few years ago.
But what the hell...let's see what those Canucks have got!
Honest question. Why is it looked at as SEC teams won't travel north for non-conference games? When was the last time a Big Ten team played a non-conference game in the south (non bowl)? Historically, the Big 10 has played more Pac 10/12 and Big 8/12 teams while the SEC plays ACC and Big 8/12. I hate the SEC hype as much as anyone, but this view is pretty skewed, IMO.
It's not as if the SEC is avoiding playing big non conference games. Louisville, North Carolina, Wisconsin, Arizona State, Texas Tech and Oklahoma were all opponents of SEC schools this year. Upcoming nonconference opponents for SEC teams:
Alabama: USC (2016), FSU (2017)
Arkansas: TCU (2016), TCU (2017)
Auburn: Clemson (2016), Clemson (2017)
florida: FSU (2016), Michigan, FSU (2017) - Michigan is first OOC game outside of Florida for uf since 90's
Georgia: North Carolina, Georgia Tech (2016), Notre Dame, Georgia Tech (2017)
LSU: Wisconsin (2016), BYU, Syracuse (2017)
Ole Miss: FSU (2016), Cal (2017)
Tennessee: Virginia Tech (2016), Georgia Tech (2017)
Texas A&M: UCLA (2016), UCLA (2017)
And remember, the last time an SEC/Big 10 series was scheduled (UGA/OSU for 2020), the Buckeyes were the ones that backed out.
