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*****IOWA vs The Slippery Rock University Game Thread*****

I was at the game and give you my thoughts.

* I like the first unit a lot and they looked really good throughout (yes, I know competition was weak). But they are going to cay se issues defensively for teams, especially Keegan, Patrick, and Touissant. Even JBo’s defense was better it seemed. The press looked good with this unit.

* Patrick looked really confident and improved all around, as did Keegan. Both looked confident with the ball, they both looked strong rebounding, and played great Defense (Patrick didn’t get lost like he has in the past some).

* Touissant looked solid. Under control and his little 10 ft jumper looked nice. Still doesn’t seem confident out to 3.

* JBo knew he didn’t have to force anything and didn”t. I think Fran’s right to start him with this group to give them one solid threat from behind the arc. If Perkins was out there instead of JBo, not sure where the consistent 3 pt threat comes from?

* Not sure exactly how good Rebraca will be but he definitely is the most consistent and refined of the big men. I think he will complement Keegan and Patrick nicely.

* The 2nd unit really struggled in the first half - which Fran said they were obviously nervous - and why he started them in the 2nd Half, where they settled in and looked a lot better.

* Sandfort will play if only because he can really shoot. With Perkins, Ullis, and Kris, he will be needed to stretch the floor.

* I like the athleticism and potential of Perkins, Ullis, and Kris but I’m not positive they are ready for starter minutes. They play hard and will be valuable in rotation and hopefully will keep improving and become more consistent.

* Connor was Connor. One intangible he brings with the 2nd unit is leadership and calming guys down. Even Sandfort said Connor calmed him down at half and helped him settle in for the 2nd Half.

* Big O and Mulvey look like 11th and 12th guys. I’m sure there are certain games and match-ups they will play more but I think the 4/5 spots will be manned by Keegan, Patrick, Rebraca, and Kris in tighter rotations (at least at this point). Hopefully, those two will continue to grow with more experience if only for the size they can bring.

* FT shooting was great.

* Defense overall was much more intense and it’s noticeable how long and athletic and bought in defensively this group is compared to last few years.

* I am worried where the consistent outside shooting will come from. Small sample size of course but JBo and Sandfort are only two that I feel great about at this point to be consistent from 3. I wonder if there will be certain games Ash plays more if they need a lift from 3 and teams daring them to shoot? That being said, this group seems to have the ability to deprive and get to hoop more than in years past.

Going into the season, I feel like this is a bubble team right now and nothing changed my mind.


10,789 was the announced attendance. I believe that # is tickets distributed and not scanned tickets.

As a team, we shot 17-20 from the FT line (85%).

I have said this a while now but i think 3 point shooting is one of our biggest concerns. Coming into this season, JBo was our only known commodity. Ash is not going to get a lot of minutes so now it looks like a true freshmen might be our 2nd best 3 point shooter (Payton was 2-4 from 3).

Joe had some wide open looks at 3 and passed them up; the two 3's he attempted he missed.

Overall the team shot 6-21 (29%) from 3.

From 3:

Starters (2 for 9, 22%)

Joe 0-2.
JBo 1-4;
PMac 1-2;
Keegan was 0-1;
Filip 0-0

Bench (4 for 12, 33%)
Connor 0-2;
Kris 0-1;
Carter 0-2;
Payton 2-4;
Ash 2-3;

Filip, playing the 5, did not attempt a 3. Last year, of course, we had a major threat from 3 from the 5 position.

In his Oct 27 podcast, Tom Kakert said the big men had struggled. He said that

* Filip was still adjusting.

* Josh O was still developing & getting his wind.

* Riley was adjusting to physical basketball at this level against grown men.

Michigan, Purdue, & Illinois all have really good big men. How will our bigs perform against those really good teams?

We open B1G play Dec 3 at Purdue and Dec 6 vs Illinois. Yikes.

Tom said this Iowa team will miss Jack Nunge; Jack would have started at the 5 this year for Iowa.

Most have Iowa finishing 9th or 10th in the B1G and a NCAA Tournament bubble team (hope they are right!).
 
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Sandfort looks legit. I also thought Perkins looked good. I liked his aggressiveness in the second unit. I think Rebraca will look better the more he plays with this group. There were a couple of times he just wasn't ready for the dish from Joe T. The more he gets used to how Joe plays, he'll do some damage. The way Joe was driving and dishing at moments tonight were impossible to defend. Filip and everyone else needs to keep their heads on a swivel this year.

i guess i wasn't as impressed with Perkins. He wa 2-6 from the field and did not attempt a 3 point shot.
 
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i guess i wasn't as impressed with Perkins. He wa 2-6 from the field and did not attempt a 3 point shot.
I think at this point I see Perkins as an Eric May - he’s tough, he’s strong, he’s athletic and he’s going to be a Swiss army type of player that will bring a lot of positives. However, until he improves his shot and can be a somewhat consistent threat, there is a ceiling on how good he can be. I think he needs to be on the floor with JBo or Sandfort so that he can have room to utilize his positives .
 
I think at this point I see Perkins as an Eric May - he’s tough, he’s strong, he’s athletic and he’s going to be a Swiss army type of player that will bring a lot of positives. However, until he improves his shot and can be a somewhat consistent threat, there is a ceiling on how good he can be. I think he needs to be on the floor with JBo or Sandfort so that he can have room to utilize his positives .

I just think that really good defensive teams are gonna get back on D and force Iowa into a half court offense. I think they will attempt to clog up the lanes and force Iowa into jump shots.

Can we hit the 3 and those mid range shots against those good teams? Can't wait to find out.
 
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I just think that really good defensive teams are gonna get back on D and force Iowa into a half court offense. I think they will attempt to clog up the lanes and force Iowa into jump shots.

Can we hit the 3 and those mid range shots against those good teams? Can't wait to find out.
Totally agree. Until Perkins can prove to be somewhat of a threat in mid-range and out, his minutes will be limited.
 
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Perkins is a guy that would benefit from playing with offensive threats. Actually, a lot of the reserves would.

When you have 3 guys that are hesitant to shoot on the court at the same time, it kind of exacerbates the issue.

I think Perkins or Ulis would look better running with the ones on occasion.
 
Perkins is a guy that would benefit from playing with offensive threats. Actually, a lot of the reserves would.

When you have 3 guys that are hesitant to shoot on the court at the same time, it kind of exacerbates the issue.

I think Perkins or Ulis would look better running with the ones on occasion.
Yeah, agree with this and I’m sure there will be times they do. That is why Sandfort being a threat is so important to the second unit. I love Perkins mentality and tenacity and the other thinks he brings. If he can add a more consistent shot - doesn’t have to be great but at least more of a threat - he has all the other skills and toughness to be an All-Big Ten type player.
 
He was a pest on D. Fights through every screen.

I am trying to tap the brakes a little based on who we played.

When Tony plays (and it might be with Connor), we better have a couple shooters with them on the court because I don't care how good at defense a player is, you still gotta be able to score on the other end. And Tony was 2-6 from the field last night.

It will be interesting to see what Tony's role will be as the season progresses.
 
Yeah, agree with this and I’m sure there will be times they do. That is why Sandfort being a threat is so important to the second unit. I love Perkins mentality and tenacity and the other thinks he brings. If he can add a more consistent shot - doesn’t have to be great but at least more of a threat - he has all the other skills and toughness to be an All-Big Ten type player.

During the 20 game B1G season, opposing teams will have us very well scouted.

Remember last season how defenses sagged every time Connor had the ball, begging him to shoot? Right now, I think that happens with Perkins until he can prove he is a threat from outside.

I think opposing teams are gonna try to force Iowa into a game of half court jump shots. Can we hit jump shots on a consistent basis will be the question that we soon will find an answer.
 
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it looks/sounds like Fran is comfortable right now with PMac, Keegan & Filip as our front line

i think we are going to be in trouble once B1G play begins; all we have to look at is Michigan's, Purdue's and Illinois' center
none of those opposing big guys can guard a center with perimeter skills, so yeah you give up 20+ points but you get a lot of it back if your smaller center can score on them.


Two center bodies + part time Fiilip/Keegan/Kris all 6'8 is more than enough. Now if Mulva or JoshO get hurt, you do a lose a lot of optionality.

I'm glad to hear Fran is playing more Man defense and hopefully decent man defense. The Zone has just been killed by opposing teams 3pt shooting.
 
none of those opposing big guys can guard a center with perimeter skills, so yeah you give up 20+ points but you get a lot of it back if your smaller center can score on them.


Two center bodies + part time Fiilip/Keegan/Kris all 6'8 is more than enough. Now if Mulva or JoshO get hurt, you do a lose a lot of optionality.

I'm glad to hear Fran is playing more Man defense and hopefully decent man defense. The Zone has just been killed by opposing teams 3pt shooting.
The man d was pretty tight tonight. Joe T, Perkins and Ulis were being asked to pick up their man at half and sometimes 3/4 court. Even JBo extended 5 plus feet beyond the arc to stick his man. I don’t think JBo will be able to keep that up against better guards, but the other three will. Perkins and Joe T in particular were so fast and disruptive on D.
 
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I think Iowa best defense against dominant opposing centers will be to make them step out and play defense.

Do I worry about Iowa guarding Cockburn, yes. But if Iowa goes small, I doubt Cockburn is feeling good about guarding Keegan or Pat.
 
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Perkins is a guy that would benefit from playing with offensive threats. Actually, a lot of the reserves would.

When you have 3 guys that are hesitant to shoot on the court at the same time, it kind of exacerbates the issue.

I think Perkins or Ulis would look better running with the ones on occasion.
Yeah, I agree. I hope McCaffery doesn't follow his "line change" philosophy that he has used in the past. You never know when you might hit on the perfect combination for that particular night by mixing guys in.
 
During the 20 game B1G season, opposing teams will have us very well scouted.

Remember last season how defenses sagged every time Connor had the ball, begging him to shoot? Right now, I think that happens with Perkins until he can prove he is a threat from outside.

I think opposing teams are gonna try to force Iowa into a game of half court jump shots. Can we hit jump shots on a consistent basis will be the question that we soon will find an answer.
Agreed. It’s way too early to know or tell. Perkins is going to have to prove he’s willing to shoot and make enough to keep defenses honest.
 
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The man d was pretty tight tonight. Joe T, Perkins and Ulis were being asked to pick up their man at half and sometimes 3/4 court. Even JBo extended 5 plus feet beyond the arc to stick his man. I don’t think JBo will be able to keep that up against better guards, but the other three will. Perkins and Joe T in particular were so fast and disruptive on D.
Yep, I understand the quality of competition but last years biggest weakness now appears to be one of the bigger strengths. This team will likely look a whole lot different compared to last year. Much better defense and athleticism with questionable shooting.
 
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There is some great post game analysis here.

Thanks guys.
Agreed. I have enjoyed reading the posts last night and today. Many thanks to all who have shared.

I also think it’s been interesting to see a few posters subtly launch trial narratives in an effort to see which player might best serve as the Internet whipping boy this year. Such is life on the interwebs, I guess.
 
The man d was pretty tight tonight. Joe T, Perkins and Ulis were being asked to pick up their man at half and sometimes 3/4 court. Even JBo extended 5 plus feet beyond the arc to stick his man. I don’t think JBo will be able to keep that up against better guards, but the other three will. Perkins and Joe T in particular were so fast and disruptive on D.
I like a lot of what BATL is saying in this thread.....look, no sense to worry about what's going to happen with this team down the road. Especially after an exhibition game.....when there is no clue to substitution patterns?? Waaayy to early.

The league is friggin tough and some teams longer on experience, size and talent but not all the teams are like PU, Illini, Big Blue but all B1G teams have talented rosters to match up with. And we will have opposing teams scouted very well too and none of these teams will get a clear path playing in this league on any given day or night playing....

What I saw is a talented roster, lean on experience but long on length, size and talent. Some speed that could kill and that length and size has great skills that is very mobile and athletic and can shoot the ball. That skill sure did get to the rim a lot Friday night too...we'll see if that can continue?

It's been awhile since I've seen a roster like this with an Iowa team, maybe ever....collectively, pretty darn good. I liked what I saw.....they need a lot or rope and PT which is why Fran has the schedule set-up the way it is.....

I am very OK with this....and can't wait for Tuesday night.
 
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Our perceived lack of 3 shooting leads me to believe that we may have to generate our offense through full court d and creating TOs. We have to play some games to know if we can't shoot the 3, but making us less dimensional is not a good thing. We already know it's gonna be tough to get much from the center position.
 
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