I know most of you are close to jumping off a building but you can bank on it.
Hawks will be in that game.
Hawks will be in that game.
Iowa will still be in the Big Ten Championship game!
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Nope. Nate isn’t that level of qb. He chokes in critical situations.
WI will beat PSU. There is little question who is the better team based on what I've seen from those two teams.
Northwestern has only one tough game in conference and that is Iowa. They are definitely in the driver's seat
The only significant difference btwn NW & IA is Iowa @ Purdue. NW already won that matchup. If you cannot win that game, you don't deserve a shot at a title
If Iowa wins out (meaning we beat Northwestern and Purdue and the rest), and Northwestern only loses to us (very possible), it doesn't matter if Wisconsin wins the rest. It'd be a 3-way tie between Northwestern, Wisconsin and us. We'd get the tiebreaker in that case by overall record. Look it up. So if Wisconsin loses and Northwestern only loses to us, and we win out, we win the tie-breaker with Northwestern.
So we just need to win out and see what happens. Northwestern's conference schedule looks easy going forward, except for us. Go Hawks!
So we just need to win out and see what happens. Northwestern's conference schedule looks easy going forward, except for us. Go Hawks!
Wrong. See #5. Our non-division opponents are shit thus we lose the tiebreaker.
https://bigten.org/news/2011/8/10/Big_Ten_Conference_Football_Divisional_Tiebreaker.aspx
Honestly curious about the tiebreaker...seems like conflicting info out there.
1. The records of the three tied teams will be compared against each other.
Is this overall record? Site is confusing.
1. The records of the three tied teams will be compared against each other.
Is this overall record? Site is confusing.
Hmm...Read (b) #1. It says above that the following scenarios will be considered until a winner is determined. (b) #1 says they look at overall record first in the case of a 3-way tie. It reads: "(b) If three or more teams are tied, steps 1 through 8 will be followed until a determination is made."
Northwestern does. Last 3 conference games with Iowa, Minnesota and Illinois. That's cupcake city
I’m with ya northern... I see an easier path but damn we made it a lot tougher on ourself missing this one today.
It reads and stops here, in a 3-way tie. Cause the next point would go to looking at the division only,
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(b) If three or more teams are tied, steps 1 through 8 will be followed until a determination is made. If only two teams remain tied after any step (or sub-step), the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative. If three or more teams remain tied after any step, move to next step in tiebreaker with remaining tied teams.
1. The records of the three tied teams will be compared against each other."
We wouldn't go to #2 case in this 3-way tie.
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(b) If three or more teams are tied, steps 1 through 8 will be followed until a determination is made. If only two teams remain tied after any step (or sub-step), the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative. If three or more teams remain tied after any step, move to next step in tiebreaker with remaining tied teams.
1. The records of the three tied teams will be compared against each other."
We wouldn't go to #2 case in this 3-way tie.
Against each other. AKA head-to-head. Everybody would be 1-1
Non-conference games don't mean shit until step #7. This makes complete sense. There should not be, and there is not, an incentive to schedule cupcakes non-conf
Everything is based on head-to-head, followed by division games, followed by conf non-division games, followed by non-conf (overall record), followed by random draw.
Wisconsin beat Iowa, NW beat Wisconsin, if Iowa beats NW and all three tie at 7-2 in conference then the non con records are considered. Wisconsin 9-3, NW 7-5 (figure they lose to ND next week), and Iowa at 10-2. Iowa goes to Indy, correct?
Makes sense Dawgs, and even if it kinda screws the Hawks, that's how it should be. Shouldn't be rewarded for scheduling a crap non conference schedule.
No, see #5. Iowa played weaker East division teams = they are screwed in this scenario
https://bigten.org/news/2011/8/10/Big_Ten_Conference_Football_Divisional_Tiebreaker.aspx
I'm not sure I want any part of Michigan or Ohio State in Indy trying to polish their playoff resume.
When they compare cross over games against the East, do they only compare those teams records within the East? That’s how it should be - otherwise your penalized for your team’s opponents having tough cross over games against the west
