Iran not sharing positive vibes with the U.S.

[MemorialRedWarrior]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...sy-seizure/ar-BBmOTCM?li=AAa0dzB&ocid=ieslice


Chanting "Death to America" and burning the US flag, thousands of Iranians joined protests Wednesday marking the 36th anniversary of the seizure of Washington's embassy in Tehran.

The outpouring of anti-US sentiment came despite a landmark nuclear deal between Iran and major powers including Washington in July.

The storming of the embassy by students, months after the Islamic revolution, led to a 444-day hostage crisis and a break in diplomatic relations that continues to this day.

Demonstrators gathered outside the former US embassy in Tehran and across Iran for what was declared "national day of the fight against global arrogance" -- a term often used by supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

Protesters held placards with slogans including "Down with U.S.A" and "Down with Israel".

Prosecutor General Ebrahim Raisi gave a fiery speech attacking US "atrocities" ranging from slavery, the treatment of Native Americans, phone tapping and "the killing of 300,000 Iraqis".

 

[strummingram]

It's not helping their relationship with the USA at all. But, what a grand showing of the sort of rebellious spirit that ultimately defeated the Crown in 1783.

The list of atrocities was most certainly earned.

 

[22*43*51]

It's important to note that the "death to America" chants are related only to our policies.

The mob that gathered were all of one mind regarding this topic.

 

[cigaretteman]

What positive vibes from the US are you referring to? There are plenty here who are all to eager to "bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" upon any pretext.

 

[MemorialRedWarrior]

It's not helping their relationship with the USA at all. But, what a grand showing of the sort of rebellious spirit that ultimately defeated the Crown in 1783.

The list of atrocities was most certainly earned.

I may or may not have underlined that for a reason. There is no pride to go with that, but the truth is what it is.

 

[MemorialRedWarrior]

What positive vibes from the US are you referring to? There are plenty here who are all to eager to "bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" upon any pretext.

I'm speaking of them and how they were not exactly sending positive karma our way. I'm well aware of how our policies have shaped that attitude towards us. The history behind our involvement with them isn't the kind of history we ourselves would wish to have had with any other country. I'm certain we would be doing much more than screaming death chants to that country had they show us the same 'respect' that we show Iran.

 

[strummingram]

I may or may not have underlined that for a reason. There is no pride to go with that, but the truth is what it is.

There's no pride to go with what, exactly?

 

[strummingram]

I'm speaking of them and how they were not exactly sending positive karma our way. I'm well aware of how our policies have shaped that attitude towards us. The history behind our involvement with them isn't the kind of history we ourselves would wish to have had with any other country. I'm certain we would be doing much more than screaming death chants to that country had they show us the same 'respect' that we show Iran.

Exactly. It's hard to face an unpleasant truth like that. I think a lot of the general attitude of how much Americans hate Iran (or any nation) is measured by their own individual sense of nationalism, period. If you don't really consider yourself "American", then you probably can see it in an objective way. To me, "American" is about as subjective as "Christian" or "Liberal." It's indistinct and usually used to divide and feel threatened in some way.

 

[SIXERS24]

Only libtards like Obama, Kerry, Pelosi, and CLinton thought this would make a difference!

 

[bagdropper]

I guess I don't understand what all the hubbub is about Iran any more.

They're not going anywhere any time soon. Other countries in the immediate region will take them down a peg if they get out of line. Nobody over there wants another nuclear neighbor.

I just have a hard time truly believing they'll ever be capable of building a bomb. It's kinda hard to do.

I know...Pakistan has one, India has one, so why don't they? Well, my thinking is Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Russia, China, Israel and India probably won't be very happy with them if they do succeed in building one - and take the problem "off our hands" so to speak.

 

[fredjr82]

Argo was a OK film.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Argo was a OK film.

I liked it.

 

[86Hawkeye]

It's important to note that the "death to America" chants are related only to our policies.

The mob that gathered were all of one mind regarding this topic.

True. They all love Americans, and even America itself.

They just want death to our government policies.

 

[86Hawkeye]

Exactly. It's hard to face an unpleasant truth like that. I think a lot of the general attitude of how much Americans hate Iran (or any nation) is measured by their own individual sense of nationalism, period.

Well, it could've been the taking and holding of hostages for over a year a while back.

Plus, if we see throngs of people chanting "death to America", that might have a somewhat chilling effect on our perceptions of Iran.

That's not really nationalism.

 

[MemorialRedWarrior]

True. They all love Americans, and even America itself.

They just want death to our government policies.

Despite your obvious and derisive mocking tone, that is a lot closer to the truth than you think. They are intelligent enough to know that the American people on their own are not the ones pushing forth the policies that have hurt them. Iranians as a people are not a bunch of savages and hateful beings who wish to destroy the common citizen.
They are people who like us are often subject to propaganda, but are usually smart enough to see around it. To think that our governments policies aren't what many in the world hate, then you are just being paranoid.
Do you hate Japanese people? Do you hate german people? How about Russian people or people from Great Britain? Of course you do not. They are just people, like you and me. Does that mean at the same time you may have hated the policies their governments once implemented? Perhaps they even still do things that makes you not like their governments?
Stop and think about things that don't just involve your own formulated patriotic behaviors and start looking beyond that. You'll be better off for doing so.

 

[MemorialRedWarrior]

There's no pride to go with what, exactly?

I don't bold those words in a manner of being proud of pointing something like that out. As in, it's the truth, and I'm pointing it out because it is the truth. I'm not at all proud of that truth. I would also say that there is nothing but shame in seeing people say that, and them being true.

 

[strummingram]

. They are intelligent enough to know that the American people on their own are not the ones pushing forth the policies that have hurt them. Iranians as a people are not a bunch of savages and hateful beings who wish to destroy the common citizen.
They are people who like us are often subject to propaganda, but are usually smart enough to see around it. To think that our governments policies aren't what many in the world hate, then you are just being paranoid.
Do you hate Japanese people? Do you hate german people? How about Russian people or people from Great Britain? Of course you do not. They are just people, like you and me. Does that mean at the same time you may have hated the policies their governments once implemented? Perhaps they even still do things that makes you not like their governments?
Stop and think about things that don't just involve your own formulated patriotic behaviors and start looking beyond that. You'll be better off for doing so.

QFT

 

[MemorialRedWarrior]

QFT

I had to the QFT up. Thank you. Like I have said, I enjoy your posts also. It's good to see some sense in all the nonsense.

 

[joelbc1]

True. They all love Americans, and even America itself.

They just want death to our government policies.

Do you really think Iranians do not like Americans?
You do understand what you are reacting to here is "religion" and not the heart of a people. It would be very similar here (in America) if we practiced only one religion and used its bastardized interpretations as the basis for our laws.
How friggin' dumb are some of you? Keeeeeerist.

 

[ottumwan in tx]

Do you really think Iranians do not like Americans?
You do understand what you are reacting to here is "religion" and not the heart of a people. It would be very similar here (in America) if we practiced only one religion and used its bastardized interpretations as the basis for our laws.
How friggin' dumb are some of you? Keeeeeerist.

unless it's the liberal climate change religion, tax the rich and give to the poor religion, then we can run the usa with that one-it's fine

 

[22*43*51]

They've captured another American.

I'm sure this is all just because we don't understand them like we should...

"The Iranian regime has detained another American on trumped up charges despite recently reaching a historic nuclear agreement with the United States in July.

Earlier this week, Iranian American Siamak Namazi was arrested and thrown in prison by Iranian military, upping the number of Americans held in that country to five.

An Iranian-American scholar and consultant who has advocated improved relations between the United States and Iran has been arrested in Tehran, according to people close to him. The arrest appeared to signal increased risks for dual citizens from the United States who are visiting or living in Iran.

The consultant, Siamak Namazi, is a World Economic Forum Young Global Leader who is currently the head of strategic planning at Crescent Petroleum, a subsidiary of the Crescent Group, a conglomerate based in the United Arab Emirates.

Iranian authorities also arrested a Lebanese citizen this week who carried permanent status in the United States.

Iranian state television on Tuesday claimed that a Washington-based Lebanese citizen missing in Tehran since September is actually an American spy now in the custody of authorities.

The state TV report is the first official word about Nizar Zakka, who holds permanent-resident status in the U.S.
Meanwhile, hundreds took to Tehran streets yesterday in celebration of the Iranian hostage crisis anniversary and repeatedly chanted, "Death to America!"

The White House repeatedly argued and maintained that the nuclear agreement with Iran will not change the bad behavior of the regime, which includes the detainment of Americans and the funding of Islamic terrorism around the world. "

 

[cigaretteman]

Do you really think Iranians do not like Americans?
You do understand what you are reacting to here is "religion" and not the heart of a people. It would be very similar here (in America) if we practiced only one religion and used its bastardized interpretations as the basis for our laws.
How friggin' dumb are some of you? Keeeeeerist.

The fact of the matter is that the majority of Iranians today were not even born yet during the revolution, and that the majority of them are not supportive of the theocratic regime, embrace western culture, and hunger for a more true democracy and normalized relations with the west.

 

[22*43*51]

The fact of the matter is that the majority of Iranians today were not even born yet during the revolution, and that the majority of them are not supportive of the theocratic regime, embrace western culture, and hunger for a more true democracy and normalized relations with the west.

Links to these facts?

I just linked an article of another US hostage taking. Seems like everything old is new again...

 

[millhawk]

It's important to note that the "death to America" chants are related only to our policies.

The mob that gathered were all of one mind regarding this topic.

So they hate our policies but not us, uh ok. Then why do libs think conservatives hate Obama not just his policies?

 

[22*43*51]

So they hate our policies but not us, uh ok. Then why do libs think conservatives hate Obama not just his policies?

 

[Jan Itor]

Do you really think Iranians do not like Americans?
You do understand what you are reacting to here is "religion" and not the heart of a people. It would be very similar here (in America) if we practiced only one religion and used its bastardized interpretations as the basis for our laws.
How friggin' dumb are some of you? Keeeeeerist.

Why don't you go visit Iran, walk down the streets, and then fi/when you make it back, you can present your slide show.

 

[strummingram]

Why don't you go visit Iran, walk down the streets, and then fi/when you make it back, you can present your slide show.

Thank you for suggesting that. It reminded me of this:



and this:

 

[strummingram]

Everyone should watch the 2nd video above. You'll realize that your government and THEIR government are at-odds with each other. The people, like the people here, couldn't care less. That's why it's important to not follow your government. Make the government follow YOU!