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The UN can inspect anywhere they want to, so long as Tehran agrees.

VIENNA (AP) — Setting up a potential showdown with Iran, the head of the U.N. atomic agency said Tuesday that a nuclear agreement being worked on by Tehran and six world powers would give his experts the right to push for access to Iranian military sites.

International Atomic Energy Agency head Yukiya Amano spoke as negotiators opened a new round of talks aimed at reaching a deal by the end of June.

Iran tentatively agreed last month to open its atomic activities to greater scrutiny as part of the deal, which would require it to commit to curbing nuclear activities that could be used to make weapons in exchange for relief from international sanctions.

But Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has since set conditions, declaring military sites off limits "to foreigners ... under the pretext of inspections." Brig. Gen. Hossein Salami of the Revolutionary Guards warns that anyone setting foot into an Iranian military facility will be met with "hot lead" — meaning bullets.

In an Associated Press interview Tuesday, Amano said Iran specifically agreed to implement what's known as the agency's "Additional Protocol" when it agreed to the outlines of the deal now being worked on.

The protocol would allow the Vienna-based agency's inspectors much more access than they have now to follow up on suspicions of undeclared Iranian nuclear activities or equipment.


Director General of the International Atomic Energy Agency, IAEA, Yukiya Amano from Japan speaks dur …
The United States and Russia are among the 147 countries with additional protocols, although the U.S. and some others have provisions designed to ensure that inspections do not compromise national security, something Iran also demands. Still, Amano said the same rules will apply to Iran as to the others that have signed on.

"In many other countries from time to time we request access to military sites when we have the reason to, so why not Iran?" he said. "If we have a reason to request access, we will do so, and in principle Iran has to accept it."

Amano said the agency can request access, clarification or a "short-notice inspection" anytime "there is any inconsistency (or) abnormality" to what Iran has declared as its nuclear work or assets.

In arguing that military facilities must be accessible to the agency, the United States and others at the negotiating table with Iran point to suspicions that Tehran used them in the past to work on nuclear weapons, something Iran denies.

Confirmed nuclear-related work at such facilities includes the manufacture of components of centrifuges, machines that can enrich uranium for uses ranging from generating energy to the cores of nuclear weapons.

Director General of the International Atomic Energy Agency, IAEA, Yukiya Amano from Japan speaks dur …
Tehran denies any interest in nuclear arms, but with the proposed deal placing strict limits on centrifuge numbers and types, Washington and its allies want to make sure the agency has a complete picture of such activities. Iran says opening up such sites could lead to spying on its military assets.

Iran has backed down on other issues it previously said were not negotiable and it's unclear whether its unequivocal rejection of access to military facilities is also a negotiating stance that will be open to compromise.

If not, though, it could lead to a crisis if the agency tries for access once a deal is struck and Iran turns it down. David Albright of the Institute for Science and International Security says Iranian refusal could even be a deal breaker.

It is also unclear whether the Additional Protocol will aid the agency in kick-starting nearly a decade of stalled investigations of Iran's alleged nuclear weapons work.

While Iran wants quick sanctions relief, diplomats involved in the negotiations say it cannot hope to be completely sanctions-free until the agency delivers a ruling on the alleged work. But Iran has refused to allow agency inspectors access to documents, officials and sites they are interested in.


Director General of the International Atomic Energy Agency, IAEA, Yukiya Amano from Japan speaks dur …
Asked if the Additional Protocol will help in the agency's probe, Amano said "we don't know yet."

"We are not in position to provide an assessment now," he said. Success "depends very much on the pace and level of cooperation from Iran."


http://news.yahoo.com/experts-iran-nuke-deal-ahead-june-deadline-081216623.html
 
The UN can inspect anywhere they want to, so long as Tehran agrees.

VIENNA (AP) — Setting up a potential showdown with Iran, the head of the U.N. atomic agency said Tuesday that a nuclear agreement being worked on by Tehran and six world powers would give his experts the right to push for access to Iranian military sites.

International Atomic Energy Agency head Yukiya Amano spoke as negotiators opened a new round of talks aimed at reaching a deal by the end of June.

Iran tentatively agreed last month to open its atomic activities to greater scrutiny as part of the deal, which would require it to commit to curbing nuclear activities that could be used to make weapons in exchange for relief from international sanctions.

But Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has since set conditions, declaring military sites off limits "to foreigners ... under the pretext of inspections." Brig. Gen. Hossein Salami of the Revolutionary Guards warns that anyone setting foot into an Iranian military facility will be met with "hot lead" — meaning bullets.

In an Associated Press interview Tuesday, Amano said Iran specifically agreed to implement what's known as the agency's "Additional Protocol" when it agreed to the outlines of the deal now being worked on.

The protocol would allow the Vienna-based agency's inspectors much more access than they have now to follow up on suspicions of undeclared Iranian nuclear activities or equipment.


Director General of the International Atomic Energy Agency, IAEA, Yukiya Amano from Japan speaks dur …
The United States and Russia are among the 147 countries with additional protocols, although the U.S. and some others have provisions designed to ensure that inspections do not compromise national security, something Iran also demands. Still, Amano said the same rules will apply to Iran as to the others that have signed on.

"In many other countries from time to time we request access to military sites when we have the reason to, so why not Iran?" he said. "If we have a reason to request access, we will do so, and in principle Iran has to accept it."

Amano said the agency can request access, clarification or a "short-notice inspection" anytime "there is any inconsistency (or) abnormality" to what Iran has declared as its nuclear work or assets.

In arguing that military facilities must be accessible to the agency, the United States and others at the negotiating table with Iran point to suspicions that Tehran used them in the past to work on nuclear weapons, something Iran denies.

Confirmed nuclear-related work at such facilities includes the manufacture of components of centrifuges, machines that can enrich uranium for uses ranging from generating energy to the cores of nuclear weapons.

Director General of the International Atomic Energy Agency, IAEA, Yukiya Amano from Japan speaks dur …
Tehran denies any interest in nuclear arms, but with the proposed deal placing strict limits on centrifuge numbers and types, Washington and its allies want to make sure the agency has a complete picture of such activities. Iran says opening up such sites could lead to spying on its military assets.

Iran has backed down on other issues it previously said were not negotiable and it's unclear whether its unequivocal rejection of access to military facilities is also a negotiating stance that will be open to compromise.

If not, though, it could lead to a crisis if the agency tries for access once a deal is struck and Iran turns it down. David Albright of the Institute for Science and International Security says Iranian refusal could even be a deal breaker.

It is also unclear whether the Additional Protocol will aid the agency in kick-starting nearly a decade of stalled investigations of Iran's alleged nuclear weapons work.

While Iran wants quick sanctions relief, diplomats involved in the negotiations say it cannot hope to be completely sanctions-free until the agency delivers a ruling on the alleged work. But Iran has refused to allow agency inspectors access to documents, officials and sites they are interested in.


Director General of the International Atomic Energy Agency, IAEA, Yukiya Amano from Japan speaks dur …
Asked if the Additional Protocol will help in the agency's probe, Amano said "we don't know yet."

"We are not in position to provide an assessment now," he said. Success "depends very much on the pace and level of cooperation from Iran."


http://news.yahoo.com/experts-iran-nuke-deal-ahead-june-deadline-081216623.html

If the US and/or Israel has to fight Iran, I hope it happens before they get nukes.
 
To which Obama/Kerry and the UN respond, "No problem Ayatollah. We trust you, we're all friends here. You don't want us inspecting a site, we get it. You probably got some hot babes running a brothel there and you don't want us embarrassing you by revealing this information. We are all good keeping your secrets. We don't care if you are building nuclear weapons, but we have to put on a show for the people back home. Keep doing what you are doing, you have nothing to worry about from us. Afterall, we are all on the same team."
 
they were and are laughing at Obama and Kerry for their "negotiating skills"

Kerry thinks he's getting a peace prize for this
 
This admin is grade school. That's what you get when you elect a community agitator, which he's VERY good at doing.
 
they were and are laughing at Obama and Kerry for their "negotiating skills"

Kerry thinks he's getting a peace prize for this
He probably will. Remind us why Obama got a peace prize. Those two clowns have no respect in the international community. Nobody fears them, they just are the butt of most jokes made at the international cocktail parties.
 
He probably will. Remind us why Obama got a peace prize. Those two clowns have no respect in the international community. Nobody fears them, they just are the butt of most jokes made at the international cocktail parties.
The Middle East is 10x worse off since dinglebarry took office.. These 2 turds are gonna start world war 3...
 
If Iran gets a nuke, that will calm things down immensely. Once a country gets a nuke, they get scratched right off the "Countries We Can Invade Militarily" List by the US Government. If America goes to war with Iran before that, you'd better get ready for a lot of coffins with US Flags.
 
If Iran gets a nuke, that will calm things down immensely. Once a country gets a nuke, they get scratched right off the "Countries We Can Invade Militarily" List by the US Government. If America goes to war with Iran, you'd better get ready for a lot of coffins with US Flags,
Iran has more American blood on their hands then any other country in the Middle East... It all started with your liberal hero Jimmy Carter... Liberal appeasement doesn't work Strummin... Tried tested and failed over and over..
 
Iran has more American blood on their hands then any other country in the Middle East... It all started with your liberal hero Jimmy Carter... Liberal appeasement doesn't work Strummin... Tried tested and failed over and over..

Um, no, that goes back further to the Eisenhower administration. Look up Operation Ajax. And, if I'm not mistaken, wasn't it Ronald Reagan that sold arms to Iran to fight Iraq, and vice versa?
 
Iran has more American blood on their hands then any other country in the Middle East... It all started with your liberal hero Jimmy Carter... Liberal appeasement doesn't work Strummin... Tried tested and failed over and over..
What lives are you giving them credit for here? Could you point to the roughly 5k deaths Iran would need to claim this prize?
 
To which Obama/Kerry and the UN respond, "No problem Ayatollah. We trust you, we're all friends here. You don't want us inspecting a site, we get it. You probably got some hot babes running a brothel there and you don't want us embarrassing you by revealing this information. We are all good keeping your secrets. We don't care if you are building nuclear weapons, but we have to put on a show for the people back home. Keep doing what you are doing, you have nothing to worry about from us. Afterall, we are all on the same team."
How would you respond to China coming over to inspect our military bases?
 
Um, no, that goes back further to the Eisenhower administration. Look up Operation Ajax. And, if I'm not mistaken, wasn't it Ronald Reagan that sold arms to Iran to fight Iraq, and vice versa?
You're not mistaken, but it seems a lot of people in this forum are.
 
Iran has more American blood on their hands then any other country in the Middle East... It all started with your liberal hero Jimmy Carter... Liberal appeasement doesn't work Strummin... Tried tested and failed over and over..
It's not about 'Liberal' appeasement Habah. For #$R sake will you wake up already? You're fighting a false cause dude. Quit listening to the GOP funded BS, and start thinking for yourself. Seriously, you're just as foolish as the hardcore liberals.
 
It's not about 'Liberal' appeasement Habah. For #$R sake will you wake up already? You're fighting a false cause dude. Quit listening to the GOP funded BS, and start thinking for yourself. Seriously, you're just as foolish as the hardcore liberals.
There are a handful on this board that are all lost causes and wastes of time. They are so indoctrinated that their main, and only, adversary is "the Left" or anything "liberal." It's indistinct, but there is a huge media industry that makes billions off of the ruse. Think of all the "conservative talk radio" shows and the people that employ them. Then you add the TV "news" industry that requires the simple-minded viewer to tune-in and fixate on their every word.
 
There are a handful on this board that are all lost causes and wastes of time. They are so indoctrinated that their main, and only, adversary is "the Left" or anything "liberal." It's indistinct, but there is a huge media industry that makes billions off of the ruse. Think of all the "conservative talk radio" shows and the people that employ them. Then you add the TV "news" industry that requires the simple-minded viewer to tune-in and fixate on their every word.
Which is what makes their 'expertise' just that much more disturbing. It's just regurgitation of someone elses false talking points. America is failing, because America is dumbing down. This isn't a regurgitated statement, this is a fact.
 
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What country do you think supplied the road side bombs in Iraq that killed and maimed THOUSANDS of American lives?
Quantify it for me. Less than 5k Americans died in both Iraq wars. I'd guess most of those at the hands of Iraqis. Even then it's hard to assign them ultimate blame for all as we were the aggressors that led to the majority of that. It's probably more accurate to say Bush has more American blood on his hands than any country in the Middle East and some people want to elect his brother who promises to add to the title.
 
Quantify it for me. Less than 5k Americans died in both Iraq wars. I'd guess most of those at the hands of Iraqis. Even then it's hard to assign them ultimate blame for all as we were the aggressors that led to the majority of that. It's probably more accurate to say Bush has more American blood on his hands than any country in the Middle East and some people want to elect his brother who promises to add to the title.


More troops have died the seven years Obama has been in office then when Bush was in office. You just don't hear about it because the news doesn't report it, and you certainly don't see the death count at the bottom right of your TV screen like you did during the Bush years.

And how many times do I have to say that Jeb Bush is an idiot and needs to go away. I DON'T LIKE THAT GUY ONE DAMN BIT.


http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/iran-showed-al-qaeda-how-bomb-embassies_610943.html
 
Wonderful... now these left v. right disciples are content with arguing about how many more or less died with each passing administration. The USA is destined for perpetual war, I guess.
 
How would you respond to China coming over to inspect our military bases?

Is China and the UN trying to prevent us from obtaining weapons or negotiating with us to not attempt to square such weapons?

Do we have a working agreement to have our facilities inspected to ensure that we are keeping our word?

If not.... You're comparison is wayyyyyyyyyyyyy off base.
 
How would you respond to China coming over to inspect our military bases?
I didn't realize we had some settlement with China. Can you enlighten me on a deal we have with China that warrants inspecting our military bases, and what are we getting in exchange for this condition. Wow, I stayed away from reading much news during Lent and I missed a China/US deal. Interesting.
 
Great. Let's keep playing the keep going back in history game, and we can argue that it's all the Romans fault. I love this line of reasoning.
Sorry phantom, we know you love to wage your wars and all. Some of us see faulty thinking in that regard.
 
I didn't realize we had some settlement with China. Can you enlighten me on a deal we have with China that warrants inspecting our military bases, and what are we getting in exchange for this condition. Wow, I stayed away from reading much news during Lent and I missed a China/US deal. Interesting.
Who the F are we to tell other people how to run their counties phantom. The deal was forced on to them, it's not like they wanted it to happen. They had sanctions imposed on them by U.S.
Any other excuses for our imperialistic ways that you'd like to share with us?
 
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