Is anyone realistic anymore?

[hawkisoaker]

Georgia. Maybe just on their defense alone. I’m not trying to feed the troll.

No injuries to incoming projected starters....but noted. Besides GA and Bama, it's nearly impossible to recover from.

 

[hawkisoaker]

People want the biggest BANG!!! for the buck, and it's just not happening. Sexy is good...sexy sells.

Don't disagree....but even sexy wouldn't recover from that many injuries.

 

[hawkisoaker]

You're right to an extent. On an opponent-adjusted basis the Iowa offense is 95th. I'm pretty sure that most of the OC's on teams ranked below Iowa have already been fired however.

BCF Toys - 2022 OFEI Ratings

www.bcftoys.com

That doesn't mean squat. Our runtime would be way more successful and opennup the play action that wasn't effective in the BIG due to injuries and a young oline. It would have been in many others.

 

[WDMHawk72]

Did you really think after losing our 3 starting WRs Keegan J., Nico,& Bostick, along with Bruce for a few games as well as Britt and really 2 others on the Oline, plus Robert's, Jacobs, Harris, Black and 2 other Dlineman thru the yr, we would be stellar. And that doesn't even account for 1 & 2 game miss injuries.

Come on man...get a clue. Iowa fball is just fine, I agree an OC change is in order but that was the least of our problems. What would you have called differently with all that mess of luck? Get a clue peeps.

Watcha smokin? I want some.

 

[jonesy5960]

That doesn't mean squat. Our runtime would be way more successful and opennup the play action that wasn't effective in the BIG due to injuries and a young oline. It would have been in many others.

What doesn't mean squat? You suggested that the Iowa offense wouldn't be 100+ if it didn't play in the B1G. I provided an opponent-adjusted efficiency measure that supported your argument. As far as what contributed to that offensive production is another discussion. It was 90th last year. Same reasons?

 

[spiderland]

Yeah cause MIs double tight end, run the ball OFF isn't working out.

I always love how some posters who like to point out the success of offenses like Michigan, Bama, and Georgia (that can be similar to ours) will then be the first to turn around and point out the delusion of expecting Iowa to be able to recruit to their same level.

 

[The Deplorable Sleeping Dog]

Not playing this game as there are NO excuses for being as bad as we’ve been two years in a row.

STFU.

Iowa wasn't bad last year. Ten reg season wins and a Division title is not ever anything but an outstanding season at Iowa, if you are talking about team records and team success.

If you're just talking about the offense then we obviously need some major improvement. Improved health would help.

 

[LIV4GOD]

Come on man...get a clue. Iowa fball is just fine, I agree an OC change is in order . . .

Seems contradictory.

 

[hawkisoaker]

Iowa wasn't bad last year. Ten reg season wins and a Division title is not ever anything but an outstanding season at Iowa, if you are talking about team records and team success.

If you're just talking about the offense then we obviously need some major improvement. Improved health would help.

I can agree with this.

 

[hawkisoaker]

Seems contradictory.

How?..I know how, like most you only evaluate a team by its OFF production, not wins, and certainly not if they are a dominate defensive team. You would be all chuckles if we put up 50 and gave up 45 for 7 wins now wouldn't ya!

 

[frydaze]

Did you really think after losing our 3 starting WRs Keegan J., Nico,& Bostick, along with Bruce for a few games as well as Britt and really 2 others on the Oline, plus Robert's, Jacobs, Harris, Black and 2 other Dlineman thru the yr, we would be stellar. And that doesn't even account for 1 & 2 game miss injuries.

Come on man...get a clue. Iowa fball is just fine, I agree an OC change is in order but that was the least of our problems. What would you have called differently with all that mess of luck? Get a clue peeps.

Damn, if we weren't the only team in the country to have injured players by game 12 of the season and before that too. Why always just us?

 

[Steamboat529529]

Damn, if we weren't the only team in the country to have injured players by game 12 of the season and before that too. Why always just us?

And in addition we lost four receivers in the portal since last season, two being big contributors. It amazes me that all these apologists about injuries hurting Iowa’s offense, don’t blame that lack of receiving depth on the offensive coaching staff. It’s shocking honestly.

 

[The Deplorable Sleeping Dog]

And in addition we lost four receivers in the portal since last season, two being big contributors. It amazes me that all these apologists about injuries hurting Iowa’s offense, don’t blame that lack of receiving depth on the offensive coaching staff. It’s shocking honestly.

Who was the other "big contributor," other than Shitbag Jones? Tracy was deep bench at Iowa and he stayed that way at Purdue. Kid couldn't keep his eye on the ball and regressed every year of his career.

 

[Steamboat529529]

Who was the other "big contributor," other than Shitbag Jones? Tracy was deep bench at Iowa and he stayed that way at Purdue. Kid couldn't keep his eye on the ball and regressed every year of his career.

Put away your hatred for Tyrone. Look me in the eye. And tell me you don’t think Tyrone Tracy would have been one of Iowa’s top, if not the top, receiver this year? I don’t think you can really count Keegan in the equation. I’d take Tracy over every healthy receiver we had this year. By the end of this year we weren’t even using Bruce at all, let alone at receiver.

 

[ellobo]

Bullshit...not double digits. Get a clue. Show me anyone who won more then 7 games after losing 8-12 starters...u can't. Youre just a example of ignorance.

If you mean 8-12 for multiple games...that would be Michigan

 

[iowaathletes]

Source: https://www.footballoutsiders.com/

Fremeau Efficiency Index ratings (FEI) are opponent-adjusted possession efficiency data representing the per-possession scoring advantage a team would be expected to have on a neutral field against an average opponent. Offense ratings (OFEI) and defense ratings (DFEI) are opponent-adjusted drive efficiency data representing the per-drive scoring advantage a team unit would be expected to have against an average opponent unit. Net drive efficiency (NDE) is the sum of offensive drive efficiency and defensive drive efficiency data representing scoring value earned by offense and defense units per drive. Strength of schedule ratings represent the expected number of losses an elite team two standard deviations better than average would have against each team's schedule to date (ELS), the expected number of losses a good team one standard deviation above average would have against the schedule to date (GLS), and the expected number of losses an average team would have against the schedule to date (ALS).

Overall records (Rec) and records against FBS opponents (FBS) are specified. Ratings and supporting data are calculated from the results of non-garbage possessions in FBS vs. FBS games.

Updated 11/28/2022 9:00 PM EST

Yr​

Rk​

Team​

Rec​

FBS​

FEI​

OFEI​

Rk​

DFEI​

Rk​

NDE​

Rk​

ELS​

Rk​

GLS​

Rk​

ALS​

Rk​

2012​

68​

Iowa​

4-8​

3-8​

-0.11​

-0.62​

99​

0.35​

42​

-0.56​

89​

0.53​

69​

2.71​

54​

6.57​

49​

2013​

28​

Iowa​

8-5​

7-5​

0.42​

-0.12​

66​

0.95​

10​

0.41​

46​

1.11​

47​

3.86​

34​

7.41​

42​

2014​

48​

Iowa​

7-6​

6-6​

0.12​

-0.03​

63​

0.27​

47​

0.2​

57​

0.55​

71​

2.55​

66​

6.51​

60​

2015​

30​

Iowa​

12-2​

11-2​

0.41​

0.3​

38​

0.62​

22​

0.88​

23​

0.72​

59​

3.09​

59​

7.34​

44​

2016​

24​

Iowa​

8-5​

8-4​

0.42​

0.13​

57​

0.55​

20​

0.39​

40​

1.25​

23​

3.63​

32​

6.98​

51​

2017​

14​

Iowa​

8-5​

8-5​

0.67​

0.24​

44​

0.79​

18​

0.35​

42​

2.02​

7​

5.03​

7​

8.74​

12​

2018​

13​

Iowa​

9-4​

8-4​

0.72​

0.42​

41​

1.09​

5​

0.96​

19​

0.87​

49​

3.56​

39​

7.85​

32​

2019​

16​

Iowa​

10-3​

10-3​

0.68​

0.2​

53​

0.94​

10​

0.76​

25​

1.57​

26​

4.34​

20​

7.92​

17​

2020​

14​

Iowa​

6-2​

6-2​

0.55​

0.02​

64​

0.79​

8​

0.91​

25​

0.2​

99​

1.1​

100​

3.47​

87​

2021​

32​

Iowa​

10-4​

10-4​

0.38​

-0.34​

90​

1.01​

5​

0.28​

56​

1.33​

22​

4.52​

12​

8.7​

5​

2022​

31​

Iowa​

7-5​

6-5​

0.4​

-0.53​

95​

1.22​

2​

0.07​

62​

1.66​

15​

3.93​

29​

6.9​

41​

 

[jonesy5960]

Iowa wasn't bad last year. Ten reg season wins and a Division title is not ever anything but an outstanding season at Iowa, if you are talking about team records and team success.

If you're just talking about the offense then we obviously need some major improvement. Improved health would help.

The offense was really bad last year.

 

[spiderland]

Source: https://www.footballoutsiders.com/

Fremeau Efficiency Index ratings (FEI) are opponent-adjusted possession efficiency data representing the per-possession scoring advantage a team would be expected to have on a neutral field against an average opponent. Offense ratings (OFEI) and defense ratings (DFEI) are opponent-adjusted drive efficiency data representing the per-drive scoring advantage a team unit would be expected to have against an average opponent unit. Net drive efficiency (NDE) is the sum of offensive drive efficiency and defensive drive efficiency data representing scoring value earned by offense and defense units per drive. Strength of schedule ratings represent the expected number of losses an elite team two standard deviations better than average would have against each team's schedule to date (ELS), the expected number of losses a good team one standard deviation above average would have against the schedule to date (GLS), and the expected number of losses an average team would have against the schedule to date (ALS).

Overall records (Rec) and records against FBS opponents (FBS) are specified. Ratings and supporting data are calculated from the results of non-garbage possessions in FBS vs. FBS games.

Updated 11/28/2022 9:00 PM EST

Yr​

Rk​

Team​

Rec​

FBS​

FEI​

OFEI​

Rk​

DFEI​

Rk​

NDE​

Rk​

ELS​

Rk​

GLS​

Rk​

ALS​

Rk​

2012​

68​

Iowa​

4-8​

3-8​

-0.11​

-0.62​

99​

0.35​

42​

-0.56​

89​

0.53​

69​

2.71​

54​

6.57​

49​

2013​

28​

Iowa​

8-5​

7-5​

0.42​

-0.12​

66​

0.95​

10​

0.41​

46​

1.11​

47​

3.86​

34​

7.41​

42​

2014​

48​

Iowa​

7-6​

6-6​

0.12​

-0.03​

63​

0.27​

47​

0.2​

57​

0.55​

71​

2.55​

66​

6.51​

60​

2015​

30​

Iowa​

12-2​

11-2​

0.41​

0.3​

38​

0.62​

22​

0.88​

23​

0.72​

59​

3.09​

59​

7.34​

44​

2016​

24​

Iowa​

8-5​

8-4​

0.42​

0.13​

57​

0.55​

20​

0.39​

40​

1.25​

23​

3.63​

32​

6.98​

51​

2017​

14​

Iowa​

8-5​

8-5​

0.67​

0.24​

44​

0.79​

18​

0.35​

42​

2.02​

7​

5.03​

7​

8.74​

12​

2018​

13​

Iowa​

9-4​

8-4​

0.72​

0.42​

41​

1.09​

5​

0.96​

19​

0.87​

49​

3.56​

39​

7.85​

32​

2019​

16​

Iowa​

10-3​

10-3​

0.68​

0.2​

53​

0.94​

10​

0.76​

25​

1.57​

26​

4.34​

20​

7.92​

17​

2020​

14​

Iowa​

6-2​

6-2​

0.55​

0.02​

64​

0.79​

8​

0.91​

25​

0.2​

99​

1.1​

100​

3.47​

87​

2021​

32​

Iowa​

10-4​

10-4​

0.38​

-0.34​

90​

1.01​

5​

0.28​

56​

1.33​

22​

4.52​

12​

8.7​

5​

2022​

31​

Iowa​

7-5​

6-5​

0.4​

-0.53​

95​

1.22​

2​

0.07​

62​

1.66​

15​

3.93​

29​

6.9​

41​

Two comments:

1) NDE does not equal OFEI + DFEI, not even close. What am I missing?
2) 2022’s OFEI was -0.52, which if I’m understanding means with each offensive possession we were likely to LOSE a half a point. Which means I was totally justified in cringing every time the offense took the field, right?

 

[grayhair81]

Damn, if we weren't the only team in the country to have injured players by game 12 of the season and before that too. Why always just us?

I believe it was Merriweather last year that got injured in a Friday practice. That's right-on a Friday.

 

[grayhair81]

Two comments:

1) NDE does not equal OFEI + DFEI, not even close. What am I missing?
2) 2022’s OFEI was -0.52, which if I’m understanding means with each offensive possession we were likely to LOSE a half a point. Which means I was totally justified in cringing every time the offense took the field, right?

Yeah, I don't know if whoever posted that table thought he was presenting evidence that the offense is actually efficient but if that was the point, then ouch.

 

[Sett1997]

Haha..u r a moron. 2 yrs?..we were in the BIG Champ game last yr and 1 away game this yr ...tks for proving your ignorance.

The offense is a complete joke and the laughingstock of Collegiate football at all levels.
It's inexcusable.

 

[LIV4GOD]

How?..I know how, like most you only evaluate a team by its OFF production, not wins,

Well, you don't me and you don't my criteria for evaluations. Since you claim to know the unknowable, I'll leave you to it.

 

[HedgeHawk1]

17-9?

Hey, get out of here with your level headedness! Can’t you see these people are trying to rouse some rabble?!?

 

[GunnerHawk]

Not playing this game as there are NO excuses for being as bad as we’ve been two years in a row.

STFU.

We were 10-3 last year, maybe you should take your advise.

 

[HedgeHawk1]

Yeah, I don't know if whoever posted that table thought he was presenting evidence that the offense is actually efficient but if that was the point, then ouch.

I think the point of the table was to refute the claim made that Iowa has been “inexcusably bad for the previous 11 years”. I think the first rank column is for the overall FEI which presumably takes account of other things (e.g. special teams). In the past 11 years Iowa was top 16 in 4 seasons, top 32 in another 5 seasons, 48th once and 68th once. I don’t think that is “inexcusably bad” at all.

All depends on if my assumptions about the table are correct, but those assumptions do appear to fit the data.

 

[HedgeHawk1]

Two comments:

1) NDE does not equal OFEI + DFEI, not even close. What am I missing?
2) 2022’s OFEI was -0.52, which if I’m understanding means with each offensive possession we were likely to LOSE a half a point. Which means I was totally justified in cringing every time the offense took the field, right?

Lose half a point relative to an average team. So if the average team would have an expectation of 3 points on a given drive we’d have an expectation of 2.5. Still not good.

 

[grayhair81]

I think the point of the table was to refute the claim made that Iowa has been “inexcusably bad for the previous 11 years”. I think the first rank column is for the overall FEI which presumably takes account of other things (e.g. special teams). In the past 11 years Iowa was top 16 in 4 seasons, top 32 in another 5 seasons, 48th once and 68th once. I don’t think that is “inexcusably bad” at all.

All depends on if my assumptions about the table are correct, but those assumptions do appear to fit the data.

All it did was reenforce what everyone already knew: the defense is really good and the offense is really bad.

 

[BHCrusader2010]

People want the biggest BANG!!! for the buck, and it's just not happening. Sexy is good...sexy sells.

Every game, no matter, how bad the schedule is, doesn't have to come down to the final plays. Come on South Dakota St, 7-3 !

 

[Steve Waite]

I’m realistic the OP is out of his mind thinking everything is ok.

What’s even more scarier is his post got 26 likes!
We have some serious apologists on this board!