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Is Obama Trying To Stop The Ark Of The Covenant From Being Unearthed?

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More nuttiness from the religious fringe:

So much for separation of church and state. A man who claims he knows where the biblical Ark of the Covenant is, also says the US Government is trying to stop him from digging it up. After decades of research, Rabbi Harry Moskoff claims that his conclusion is buried underneath the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.

Finding the Ark of the Covenant would completely shake up the status quo. People would question science, lawmaking, authority and it would probably lead to a third world war because it would prove that Palestine belongs to Israel.

Listen to News Talk Florida host Dan Maduri speak with Moskoff about the implications of such a find in this interview:

http://www.epictimes.com/danmaduri/...the-ark-of-the-covenant-from-being-unearthed/
 
More nuttiness from the religious fringe:

So much for separation of church and state. A man who claims he knows where the biblical Ark of the Covenant is, also says the US Government is trying to stop him from digging it up. After decades of research, Rabbi Harry Moskoff claims that his conclusion is buried underneath the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.

Finding the Ark of the Covenant would completely shake up the status quo. People would question science, lawmaking, authority and it would probably lead to a third world war because it would prove that Palestine belongs to Israel.

Listen to News Talk Florida host Dan Maduri speak with Moskoff about the implications of such a find in this interview:

http://www.epictimes.com/danmaduri/...the-ark-of-the-covenant-from-being-unearthed/
Unless Rabbi Harry works to the U.S. Gov't, what authority would they have to prevent him from completing his task? There's plenty of other obstacles ahead of him.

IIRC, isn't the Temple Mount under Muslim control?

Call me jaded, but the deniers in the media and within the 'powers that be' would probably kill the story even if they find the ark.

BTW - everybody knows the ark is in a crate in an American gov't warehouse? Duh. Didn't you see "Raiders of the Lost Ark"?
 
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Unless Rabbi Harry works to the U.S. Gov't, what authority would they have to prevent him from completing his task? There's plenty of other obstacles ahead of him.

IIRC, isn't the Temple Mount under Muslim control?

Call me jaded, but the deniers in the media and within the 'powers that be' would probably kill the story even if they find the ark.

BTW - everybody knows the ark is in a crate in an American gov't warehouse? Duh. Didn't you see "Raiders of the Lost Ark"?

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On the plus side, I guess our relationship with Israel isn't as bad as cons thought if we can reach around the world and control Temple policy. But say the Rabbi is correct about the Ark of the Covenant. Why would finding this relic change anything? Unless the Ark can really perform magic like in the movie, it would be just a completely expected bit of old religious art. Even an atheist raised in a Hindu culture would not be shocked that the Jews once built a fancy box to hold some stone tablets they believed were important. Finding a pretty box that behaves like a pretty box ordinarily should would change nothing. Pulling down the Dome of the Rock to get the pretty box, now that's another story. I suspect that's the real goal here.
 
On the plus side, I guess our relationship with Israel isn't as bad as cons thought if we can reach around the world and control Temple policy. But say the Rabbi is correct about the Ark of the Covenant. Why would finding this relic change anything? Unless the Ark can really perform magic like in the movie, it would be just a completely expected bit of old religious art. Even an atheist raised in a Hindu culture would not be shocked that the Jews once built a fancy box to hold some stone tablets they believed were important. Finding a pretty box that behaves like a pretty box ordinarily should would change nothing. Pulling down the Dome of the Rock to get the pretty box, now that's another story. I suspect that's the real goal here.

You miss that the magic of the 'relic' would be its verified modern day discovery would embolden and validate both Jews and Christians.
 
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You miss that the magic of the 'relic' would be its verified modern day discovery would embolden and validate both Jews and Christians.
How so and to what extent and for how long? I'm sure we would see church attendance rise the next week. But if the thing doesn't melt your face, its sort of a let down. If its not magic intrinsically, might the faithful reflect and start questioning why they believed it should be? I bet finding an ordinary pretty box would actually be a point for my side in this debate.
 
In the Old Testament it is clearly stated that the King of
Babylon (Nebuchadnezzer) came in 586 B.C. and destroyed
Jerusalem. He actually burned the Temple of Solomon that
contained the Ark of the Covenant.

Bottom Line: The Ark of the Covenant was burned.
See the book of 2 Kings 25:8,9 in your Bible.
 
In the Old Testament it is clearly stated that the King of
Babylon (Nebuchadnezzer) came in 586 B.C. and destroyed
Jerusalem. He actually burned the Temple of Solomon that
contained the Ark of the Covenant.

Bottom Line: The Ark of the Covenant was burned.
See the book of 2 Kings 25:8,9 in your Bible.

Naw, Lute,

It was stolen from its keepers in Ethiopia last November:

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Axum| The Patriarch of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church, His Holiness Abune Mathias, announced this morning that the most prized biblical treasure in the world, the Ark of Covenant, was stolen last night from the catacombs of the Church of Our Lady Mary of Zion. The guardians of the artefact were allegedly put to sleep through the use of chemical weapons, before the robbers entered the crypt and stole the precious Holy item.


The criminal operation was reportedly executed by a team of 12 to 16 highly-trained professionals who travelled aboard two black military helicopters. They landed less than 500 meters away from their objective after allegedly arriving from the East. The men were dressed in black military-style uniforms and seemed to function as a well coordinated army unit. They were equipped with night-vision equipment and armed with high caliber weapons, giving them an incredible advantage over the local security forces.


The protection of the Ark was left to a group untrained volunteers with AK-47s. The Church did not see any need for more security as the Ark was expected to protect itself from people with impure intentions.

The 11 guards and armed volunteers present on the site to defend the Ark were neutralized by the thieves, using some high technology grenades that released a rare opium-based soporific gas. The robbers then went into strenuous labor, using jackhammers and explosives to enlarge the corridors in various locations inside the catacombs leading to the Ark, in order to be able to remove the large chest from its underground vault.

The entire operation was over in less than an hour, an incredibly short time considering the number of obstacles that had to be overcome. This amazing efficiency suggests that the thieves had repeated the operation and had carefully prepared their crime.


Few signs of the crime were visible this morning on the site, but a lot of damage was reported inside the catacombs under the building.

The Ethiopian Orthodox Church claims to possess the Ark of the Covenant in a chapel in the small town of Axum, in their country’s northern Highlands. It arrived nearly 3,000 years ago, they say, and has been guarded by a succession of virgin monks who, once anointed, are forbidden to set foot outside the chapel grounds until they die. No one except the Guardians are ever allowed to see the Ark, not even the Patriarch of the Church.

The story is told in the Kebra Negast (in Ge’ez language, Glory of the Kings), Ethiopia’s chronicle of its royal line: the Queen of Sheba, one of its first rulers, traveled to Jerusalem to benefit from King Solomon’s wisdom; on her way home, she bore Solomon’s son, Menelik. A few years later, Menelik went to visit his father, and on his return journey was accompanied by the firstborn sons of some Israelite nobles—who, unbeknown to him, stole the ark and carried it with them to Ethiopia.
When Menelik learned of the theft, he reasoned that since the ark’s frightful powers hadn’t destroyed his retinue, it must be God’s will that it remain with him. It was then presumably kept in the islands of Lake Tana for about four hundred years and finally taken to Axum, where it was kept safe for more than two thousand years.
The disappearance of the Ark is certainly dramatic news for the Ethiopian Orthodox Church, as much of its prestige came from the possession of the relic and many of its rituals were centered on it. His Holiness Abune Mathias was visibly emotional when he made the announcement many of the journalists and faithfuls present for the press conference, burst into tears when they heard the news.

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/ethiopia-ark-of-covenant-reported-stolen-by-church-authorities/
 
In the Old Testament it is clearly stated that the King of
Babylon (Nebuchadnezzer) came in 586 B.C. and destroyed
Jerusalem. He actually burned the Temple of Solomon that
contained the Ark of the Covenant.

Bottom Line: The Ark of the Covenant was burned.
See the book of 2 Kings 25:8,9 in your Bible.

Was Jesus ever asked about it? That would seem to be a pretty important question to ask. "Hey God, what happened to your laws?"
 
You guys really are out of touch. In Texas we have an Ark Tunnel and what do you think it is for?
 
You miss that the magic of the 'relic' would be its verified modern day discovery would embolden and validate both Jews and Christians.
Not if, as natural sensibly predicts, it's just a nice box with artifacts you'd expect from those times.

What we can also predict is that if it's merely a nice box with ordinary artifacts, the faithful will insist it isn't that true Ark, after all, and the search must continue. Sorry Muslims for desecrating your holy place. Don't take it personally.

OTOH, suppose they came out with a nice box that contained a document that seemed to be an agreement whereby God gives the Jews control of all Palestine. Do you think that Arabs and Muslims will just say "well, all right, then, we'll leave now"? Would Christians - heretics one and all and not even slightly among God's chosen people - also have to leave?
 
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