It seems like the recipe for stopping Iowa is clear....

[Hwk-I-St8]

...and Urban has to be kicking himself for not playing more aggressively against Iowa's offense.

Aggressive, stunting and blitzing seems to absolutely stymie our offense. It's not new this year (MSU has used this recipe for years), but this year is particularly bad.

Why are we unable to punish teams for being so aggressive? How do other teams handle this reasonably well while Iowa falls apart?

 

[LuciousBDragon]

Uh...sophomore QB, new O-Coordinator, new O-Line coach, and O-Line that has been playing more freshmen than Kevin Spacey.

Did everyone just think they were all going to gel quickly?

Hindsight will tell us the 2017 team was a work-in-progress. I'm pretty certain our coaches know they are getting blitzed and will solve for that as best as possible in the offseason. Does anyone else think our strength and conditioning may have taken a toll after the Rhabdo case a few years back? We just don't seem the same since?

2 days after a horrible loss I hope people come down to Earth and look at the season for what it is:

- Expectations were 7-5/6-6. We can still meet or exceed here
- 2 out of 3 so far in trophy games with a decent chance of 3 of 4
- QB play has improved clearly
- James Butler was clearly supposed to be an integral part of the offense this year. Injury and the need to use Akrum as a power-back did not fit the script. Blame coaches who did not utilize our backs as best they could have if you want. I believe they balanced what they thought could be a decent attack while protecting the football with trusted backs. At least Young got some touches and PT this year. Part of true Iowa Football is winning the turnover margin and a back that is unproven with potential fumble-titus does not work for KF.

The Ohio State game is now an outlier. One team watched tape and game-planned better than the other. Had OSU coached to their potential it would have been a slaughter.

Good news is we still have 3 games left and hopefully this team will be positioned to make a run the next two years. We need to spend our collective efforts worrying about replacing Josey and the LB's as well as hoping & praying Josh Jackson remains on campus. I am loving Kiper saying he could still benefit from one more year.

 

[Hawkfan5220]

Holy crap, a post by someone who isn't an overreacting or insane "fan". Excellent view on how things are going, Iowa has such two faced fans, I mean at least the hardcore forum posters that is. Last week Ferentz is a God, things go horribly wrong and they turn on him/them without a second thought. People are so unrealistic, of course we should hope that Iowa competes well in all phases, recruiting, etc.....

Everyone of the negative posters complain about coaching, well guess what, Iowa gets an assload of players that other teams passed on and Ferentz turns them into decent or above average.

Ferentz has faults, predictability being the main one, but for all the idiots bitching I wouldn't trade Ferentz for anything right now. Iowa has stability, class, and usually recruits blue collar hard working kids that represent the Univ well.

Would you rather have Nebraska, Minn, or Illinois?

Iowa is a perennial 7-5/8-4 team with the occasional 10+ win seasons sprinkled in. Iowa does well considering, I get the impression Ferentz cares deeply about his players and the team, to think he doesn't care about winning is absolutely insane.

 

[LuciousBDragon]

...and Urban has to be kicking himself for not playing more aggressively against Iowa's offense.

Aggressive, stunting and blitzing seems to absolutely stymie our offense. It's not new this year (MSU has used this recipe for years), but this year is particularly bad.

Why are we unable to punish teams for being so aggressive? How do other teams handle this reasonably well while Iowa falls apart?

One suggestion is we somehow get Tom Brady and Bill Belichick to run the show. Tom has perfected the quick release with a 2-step drop. In fact, he does it so well the Patriots can do that in the dark. Get the ball out quickly - that is how you beat a constant blitz coming at Nate Stanley. This assumes we get NFL quality receivers who can run a perfect route 99% of the time and get separation. At least we took one baby step in that direction and hired some guy from that staff. That's more than other B1G schools can say.

We should take it as a badge of honor that the only way to beat us is to play an NFL-Blitz video-game type defense. Heck 40% of the line are young freshmen. AND, ESPN shows us as having the 3rd highest strength of schedule thus far. 3 games we were within one score and Penn State we were 1 play away.

I'm a glass half-full guy. That being said and to OP's point, it would make me smile more if we tried more screen passes. Anyway to get Akrum in space and make the girls say hooty-hoo!

 

[Wasnt-drunk-didnt-troll]

"We fight fire with marshmellows." -toys.

 

[nitewing]

Wadley went into this season a marked man, defenses were geared to stop Wadley and make 1st year Stanley with a bunch of untested WR/TE's beat them,

well guess what these teams are doing just that. stop Wadley and they usually win,
I have asked this before but nobody will/can't or won't answer,

who are they going to key on next season? Wadley will be gone. Young maybe but at 5'11 220 lbs will be a load. just look at Butler when he is healthy @ 5'9 210 lbs is hard to bring down/stop,

APB Bryan will be coming in as a RSFR @ 5'11 210 lbs is another bruiser,
Taylor for Wisconsin is 5'11 214 lbs,

the one I am looking forward to seeing is Giel a 6'1 211 lb RB. size and power with speed.

 

[hawkeye bb n fb fan]

Wadley went into this season a marked man, defenses were geared to stop Wadley and make 1st year Stanley with a bunch of untested WR/TE's beat them,

well guess what these teams are doing just that. stop Wadley and they usually win,
I have asked this before but nobody will/can't or won't answer,

who are they going to key on next season? Wadley will be gone. Young maybe but at 5'11 220 lbs will be a load. just look at Butler when he is healthy @ 5'9 210 lbs is hard to bring down/stop,

APB Bryan will be coming in as a RSFR @ 5'11 210 lbs is another bruiser,
Taylor for Wisconsin is 5'11 214 lbs,

the one I am looking forward to seeing is Giel a 6'1 211 lb RB. size and power with speed.

They won't need to key on anyone specific. If we continue to not throw the ball downfield they will stack the box regardless of who's in the backfield/on the field at the time

 

[Wasnt-drunk-didnt-troll]

Taking away a weapon isn't going to make it harder to defend us. Theoretically teams are selling out to stop Wadley and making us pass. (And beating us) if they don't have to sell out to stop the run we are even more f'd.

 

[HerkysDad]

Please temper your expectations and don’t start saying with the Hawks will be going undefeated next season. Let ISU do that instead.

 

[HawkLogic]

2012--> Senior 5th year QB Vandenberg, bottom 10% in offense

2013--> Rookie QB Ruddock, below average offense

2014--> Ruddock QB, better but still below average offense, got rolled vs UT in bowl. Ruddock goes to Michigan, stars there, gets into NFL.

2015--> Beathard QB, soft schedule, little bit above average offense, got rolled by Stanford in bowl

2016--> Beathard, QB, one of worst passing games in NCAA, pass protection terrible and Beathard takes a pounding in Bowl game as we get rolled again. Beathard gets drafted and makes NFL.


2017--> bottom 10% in offense, run blocking terrible

Two NFL caliber QBs...maybe a 3rd in Stanley. I see history of under-performance and excuses.

 

[Wasnt-drunk-didnt-troll]

I don't know man does ISU have 3* rsso @6'1 210 with a 4.47 40 and 4.03 shuttle at RB? I don't even know how you type that stuff all the time that was a pain.

 

[Wasnt-drunk-didnt-troll]

2012--> Senior 5th year QB Vandenberg, bottom 10% in offense

2013--> Rookie QB Ruddock, below average offense

2014--> Ruddock QB, better but still below average offense, got rolled vs UT in bowl. Ruddock goes to Michigan, stars there, gets into NFL.

2015--> Beathard QB, soft schedule, little bit above average offense, got rolled by Stanford in bowl

2016--> Beathard, QB, one of worst passing games in NCAA, pass protection terrible and Beathard takes a pounding in Bowl game as we get rolled again. Beathard gets drafted and makes NFL.


2017--> bottom 10% in offense, run blocking terrible

Two NFL caliber QBs...maybe a 3rd in Stanley. I see history of under-performance and excuses.

Don't bring logic into this. Anything better than an 80 out of 130 ranked offense is video game numbers. Get off my lawn and quit listening to your rap music!!a

 

[nitewing]

They won't need to key on anyone specific. If we continue to not throw the ball downfield they will stack the box regardless of who's in the backfield/on the field at the time

they did that last year but Iowa had Daniels as the power back, this season Butler was supposed to be that power back,
Young is a faster Greene and is only 5 lbs lighter, Kelly-Martin is in the mold of Wadley.

Iowa will/should have its 2 headed monster, Stanley will no longer be a rookie, and his receiving targets will be more experienced,
Fant is leading the team in TD receptions with 7, Hochenson has 3,
Easley leads the team in Receptions with 41, yards with 421
Iowa returns 4 of their top 6 targets with another spring practices and another summer of Conditioning, Iowa won't be so easy to defend.

 

[EpenesaEpenesa]

2012--> Senior 5th year QB Vandenberg, bottom 10% in offense

2013--> Rookie QB Ruddock, below average offense

2014--> Ruddock QB, better but still below average offense, got rolled vs UT in bowl. Ruddock goes to Michigan, stars there, gets into NFL.

2015--> Beathard QB, soft schedule, little bit above average offense, got rolled by Stanford in bowl

2016--> Beathard, QB, one of worst passing games in NCAA, pass protection terrible and Beathard takes a pounding in Bowl game as we get rolled again. Beathard gets drafted and makes NFL.


2017--> bottom 10% in offense, run blocking terrible

Two NFL caliber QBs...maybe a 3rd in Stanley. I see history of under-performance and excuses.

That’s not execution. That’s a flawed scheme. The stars might align(Ohio State) every now and then, but that is an offensive system that needs to be blown up. Wisconsin has a good defense, but that was a travesty offensively last weekend.

 

[Muskie5]

...and Urban has to be kicking himself for not playing more aggressively against Iowa's offense.

Aggressive, stunting and blitzing seems to absolutely stymie our offense. It's not new this year (MSU has used this recipe for years), but this year is particularly bad.

Why are we unable to punish teams for being so aggressive? How do other teams handle this reasonably well while Iowa falls apart?

What team has handled Wisconsin's defense 'reasonably well' this year?

 

[nitewing]

Uh...sophomore QB, new O-Coordinator, new O-Line coach, and O-Line that has been playing more freshmen than Kevin Spacey.

Did everyone just think they were all going to gel quickly?

Hindsight will tell us the 2017 team was a work-in-progress. I'm pretty certain our coaches know they are getting blitzed and will solve for that as best as possible in the offseason. Does anyone else think our strength and conditioning may have taken a toll after the Rhabdo case a few years back? We just don't seem the same since?

2 days after a horrible loss I hope people come down to Earth and look at the season for what it is:

- Expectations were 7-5/6-6. We can still meet or exceed here
- 2 out of 3 so far in trophy games with a decent chance of 3 of 4
- QB play has improved clearly
- James Butler was clearly supposed to be an integral part of the offense this year. Injury and the need to use Akrum as a power-back did not fit the script. Blame coaches who did not utilize our backs as best they could have if you want. I believe they balanced what they thought could be a decent attack while protecting the football with trusted backs. At least Young got some touches and PT this year. Part of true Iowa Football is winning the turnover margin and a back that is unproven with potential fumble-titus does not work for KF.

The Ohio State game is now an outlier. One team watched tape and game-planned better than the other. Had OSU coached to their potential it would have been a slaughter.

Good news is we still have 3 games left and hopefully this team will be positioned to make a run the next two years. We need to spend our collective efforts worrying about replacing Josey and the LB's as well as hoping & praying Josh Jackson remains on campus. I am loving Kiper saying he could still benefit from one more year.

people were saying the same thing about King as they were wringing their hands over who would relace him, hmm Jackson steps is and looks better than King
backing up Jackson is Hankins another 6'1 Texas kid who was a North South AA game member,

 

[nitewing]

What team has handled Wisconsin's defense 'reasonably well' this year?

nobody.

 

[hwk23]

Wisconsin really didn't blitz as much as it seemed. They were able to get a lot of pressure with just 4. The problem is you never know which 4 are coming. Our inexperienced OL was clearly confused much of the time.

 

[Muskie5]

Wisconsin really didn't blitz as much as it seemed. They were able to get a lot of pressure with just 4. The problem is you never know which 4 are coming. Our inexperienced OL was clearly confused much of the time.

You are correct. I'm calling it 'zone blitzes', but it's more of just a 'zone rush' and you never know where the rushers are coming from because they usually only had 2 down linemen and could send any of 4 or 5 LB's (they usually just sent 2) depending on what package they were in.

 

[anon_i8nzeu2gbf0ba]

What team has handled Wisconsin's defense 'reasonably well' this year?

Everybody...including Illinois and Indiana...except Iowa.

 

[Muskie5]

Everybody...including Illinois and Indiana...except Iowa.

Wisconsin is number 1 in the country in total defense, no. 1 in rushing defense, no. 3 in scoring defense (they are no. 1 in the B1G) etc... yup sounds like every offense had them figured out but Iowa, LOL.
Now for your stats on this board; You are no.1 on this board for negativity. You are no. 3 in idiotic posts. You are no. 5786 in football knowledge. Lol. Being the positive person I am, I think you can do better.

 

[Hwk-I-St8]

What team has handled Wisconsin's defense 'reasonably well' this year?

Nebraska - over 300 yards, 10 offensive pts
Purdue - 230 yards, 3 offensive pts
Maryland - 265 yards, 13 offensive pts
Illinois - 300 yards, 10 offensive pts
Indiana - 270 yards, 17 offensive pts
Utah State - 310 yards, 10 offensive pts
Florida Atlantic - 250 yards, 14 offensive pts
BYU - 192 yards, 6 offensive pts
Northwestern - 240 yards, 24 offensive pts
Iowa - 66 yards, 0 offensive pts

Hmmm....At least everyone, including Utah State and Florida Atlantic, were able to move the ball somewhat. Every team that's played wisconsin has scored some points on offense. Even the cupcakes. Northwestern scored 24 points.

I'd say Florida Atlantic, utah State, Illinois, Indiana, Maryaland, Nebraska and especially Northwestern didn't embarass themselves when on offense.

Purdue and BYU didn't score much, but at least both got into 3 figures for yards.

Iowa on the other hand....

 

[Suterman]

What team has handled Wisconsin's defense 'reasonably well' this year?

Purdue lost 17-9.

 

[Hawk_4shur]

2012--> Senior 5th year QB Vandenberg, bottom 10% in offense

2013--> Rookie QB Ruddock, below average offense

2014--> Ruddock QB, better but still below average offense, got rolled vs UT in bowl. Ruddock goes to Michigan, stars there, gets into NFL.

2015--> Beathard QB, soft schedule, little bit above average offense, got rolled by Stanford in bowl

2016--> Beathard, QB, one of worst passing games in NCAA, pass protection terrible and Beathard takes a pounding in Bowl game as we get rolled again. Beathard gets drafted and makes NFL.


2017--> bottom 10% in offense, run blocking terrible

Two NFL caliber QBs...maybe a 3rd in Stanley. I see history of under-performance and excuses.

Since KF has been here, offense has generally been poor to average, with a couple of years in there that were above average to good.

To say that this is KF's "fault", is completely fair and accurate, since he is the HC and the one constant.

But to say that it's "too conservative" or "bad play calling" is completely understating the complexity of offense today in CF. Yes, it falls on the coaches, but .....

It starts with recruiting - Iowa has not recruited, or developed, enough talented skill position players on offense. Then, you have to look at offensive philosophy, scheme, coaching up the kids, game planning - and then on game day, play calling, execution and adjustments. Add injuries into the mix. Iowa is just not good enough at critical components of offensive football, and hasn't been for the KF years.

 

[EpenesaEpenesa]

Purdue lost 17-9.

With 2 TDs they should have had defensively and a blocked punt, but they tripped over their own peckers on both and came up empty

 

[NorthDSMHawk]

Nebraska - over 300 yards, 10 offensive pts
Purdue - 230 yards, 3 offensive pts
Maryland - 265 yards, 13 offensive pts
Illinois - 300 yards, 10 offensive pts
Indiana - 270 yards, 17 offensive pts
Utah State - 310 yards, 10 offensive pts
Florida Atlantic - 250 yards, 14 offensive pts
BYU - 192 yards, 6 offensive pts
Northwestern - 240 yards, 24 offensive pts
Iowa - 66 yards, 0 offensive pts

Hmmm....At least everyone, including Utah State and Florida Atlantic, were able to move the ball somewhat. Every team that's played wisconsin has scored some points on offense. Even the cupcakes. Northwestern scored 24 points.

I'd say Florida Atlantic, utah State, Illinois, Indiana, Maryaland, Nebraska and especially Northwestern didn't embarass themselves when on offense.

Purdue and BYU didn't score much, but at least both got into 3 figures for yards.

Iowa on the other hand....

Man, I sure wish we could "execute" as well as those teams. They must be full of confident, experienced, junior/senior playmakers.

 

[hawkeye bb n fb fan]

they did that last year but Iowa had Daniels as the power back, this season Butler was supposed to be that power back,
Young is a faster Greene and is only 5 lbs lighter, Kelly-Martin is in the mold of Wadley.

Iowa will/should have its 2 headed monster, Stanley will no longer be a rookie, and his receiving targets will be more experienced,
Fant is leading the team in TD receptions with 7, Hochenson has 3,
Easley leads the team in Receptions with 41, yards with 421
Iowa returns 4 of their top 6 targets with another spring practices and another summer of Conditioning, Iowa won't be so easy to defend.

Then why didn't Toren play when Butler got hurt? Seems like a waste of a redshirt to me

 

[0418hawkguy1001]

You act like this is something new that teams need to do. Urban got caught up in his own arrogance thinking his front 7 was better and could play face up. It didn't happen. Next year wont be like this with more experience under our belt along the edges and a year wiser qb who can see it.

 

[H4wkfan4life]

The Ohio State game is now an outlier. One team watched tape and game-planned better than the other. Had OSU coached to their potential it would have been a slaughter.

.

Yeah, lets not credit Iowa for blocking, catching passes, being fundamentally sound etc.....

 

[sober_teacher]

Then why didn't Toren play when Butler got hurt? Seems like a waste of a redshirt to me

Toren redshirted last year. From a run game perspective I’m not sure why he didn’t play more with butler out.

 

[hawkeye bb n fb fan]

Toren redshirted last year. From a run game perspective I’m not sure why he didn’t play more with butler out.

Oh ya, you're right. Still he should've played more IMO

 

[Hwk-I-St8]

Yeah, lets not credit Iowa for blocking, catching passes, being fundamentally sound etc.....

I don't think it's a lack of credit. Clearly Iowa executed well in that game. The point is that Iowa does not execute well when pressured by aggressive D. It's not hard to force Iowa into mistakes and render the offense impotent. We've seen it many times this season alone and it's been an issue historically. Urban, for whatever reason (the quoted poster speculates arrogance), decided not to employ those tactics. This allowed Iowa to get comfortable and not be forced into execution errors. The results are, as they say, history.

 

[DavenportHawk8]

Uh...sophomore QB, new O-Coordinator, new O-Line coach, and O-Line that has been playing more freshmen than Kevin Spacey.

Did everyone just think they were all going to gel quickly?

Hindsight will tell us the 2017 team was a work-in-progress. I'm pretty certain our coaches know they are getting blitzed and will solve for that as best as possible in the offseason. Does anyone else think our strength and conditioning may have taken a toll after the Rhabdo case a few years back? We just don't seem the same since?

2 days after a horrible loss I hope people come down to Earth and look at the season for what it is:

- Expectations were 7-5/6-6. We can still meet or exceed here
- 2 out of 3 so far in trophy games with a decent chance of 3 of 4
- QB play has improved clearly
- James Butler was clearly supposed to be an integral part of the offense this year. Injury and the need to use Akrum as a power-back did not fit the script. Blame coaches who did not utilize our backs as best they could have if you want. I believe they balanced what they thought could be a decent attack while protecting the football with trusted backs. At least Young got some touches and PT this year. Part of true Iowa Football is winning the turnover margin and a back that is unproven with potential fumble-titus does not work for KF.

The Ohio State game is now an outlier. One team watched tape and game-planned better than the other. Had OSU coached to their potential it would have been a slaughter.

Good news is we still have 3 games left and hopefully this team will be positioned to make a run the next two years. We need to spend our collective efforts worrying about replacing Josey and the LB's as well as hoping & praying Josh Jackson remains on campus. I am loving Kiper saying he could still benefit from one more year.

Yup agree, it was supposed to be a 6-6 year and it could very well end up that way. We are a young team in certain positions and when you have no real 'threat" on the outside, it makes it easy for teams to load the box and stop your running game. Defensively our line has not gotten the pressure we thought they could, but they are also young.

I think this team can get to 7-5 possible 8-4 and go to a good bowl game and hopefully build some momentum in the off-season. I just worry what our defense will look like w/out Jewell & Jackson. Damn going to be replacing some playmakers on the defensive side of the ball.

 

[OutbackBowl2017]

Iowa doesn't coach and play the same on the road compared to games at Kinnick. Road games are tight play calling w/ hardly any downfield throws, too many runs between the tackles, and too much shot gun formations instead of play action pass.

I'd rather see Iowa play aggressive on O and lose instead of play tight and not to lose because that's what everyone expects from Iowa on the road. There is nothing to lose if they play loose and to win. Hell, we all saw what happened when KF had a fake field goal a couple years ago and failed to get the first down. Half of Kinnick stood up and cheered the aggressive play call.

Iowa is 6-4 so go for it cause you aren't winning anything this year other than a bowl trip to Nashville or San Francisco regardless of the outcome of the last two games.

 

[General Tso]

2 days after a horrible loss I hope people come down to Earth and look at the season for what it is:

- Expectations were 7-5/6-6. We can still meet or exceed here

And this, my friend, is the mentality of a mediocre football program.

 

[Bearhawk0505]

Simple answer. Our WRs need to show they can beat man coverage.

 

[HawkTex]

Uh...sophomore QB, new O-Coordinator, new O-Line coach, and O-Line that has been playing more freshmen than Kevin Spacey.

Did everyone just think they were all going to gel quickly?

Hindsight will tell us the 2017 team was a work-in-progress. I'm pretty certain our coaches know they are getting blitzed and will solve for that as best as possible in the offseason. Does anyone else think our strength and conditioning may have taken a toll after the Rhabdo case a few years back? We just don't seem the same since?

2 days after a horrible loss I hope people come down to Earth and look at the season for what it is:

- Expectations were 7-5/6-6. We can still meet or exceed here
- 2 out of 3 so far in trophy games with a decent chance of 3 of 4
- QB play has improved clearly
- James Butler was clearly supposed to be an integral part of the offense this year. Injury and the need to use Akrum as a power-back did not fit the script. Blame coaches who did not utilize our backs as best they could have if you want. I believe they balanced what they thought could be a decent attack while protecting the football with trusted backs. At least Young got some touches and PT this year. Part of true Iowa Football is winning the turnover margin and a back that is unproven with potential fumble-titus does not work for KF.

The Ohio State game is now an outlier. One team watched tape and game-planned better than the other. Had OSU coached to their potential it would have been a slaughter.

Good news is we still have 3 games left and hopefully this team will be positioned to make a run the next two years. We need to spend our collective efforts worrying about replacing Josey and the LB's as well as hoping & praying Josh Jackson remains on campus. I am loving Kiper saying he could still benefit from one more year.

How much longer is the Excuse Mill going to operate?

 

[planohawk99]

Holy crap, a post by someone who isn't an overreacting or insane "fan". Excellent view on how things are going, Iowa has such two faced fans, I mean at least the hardcore forum posters that is. Last week Ferentz is a God, things go horribly wrong and they turn on him/them without a second thought. People are so unrealistic, of course we should hope that Iowa competes well in all phases, recruiting, etc.....

Everyone of the negative posters complain about coaching, well guess what, Iowa gets an assload of players that other teams passed on and Ferentz turns them into decent or above average.

Ferentz has faults, predictability being the main one, but for all the idiots bitching I wouldn't trade Ferentz for anything right now. Iowa has stability, class, and usually recruits blue collar hard working kids that represent the Univ well.

Would you rather have Nebraska, Minn, or Illinois?

Iowa is a perennial 7-5/8-4 team with the occasional 10+ win seasons sprinkled in. Iowa does well considering, I get the impression Ferentz cares deeply about his players and the team, to think he doesn't care about winning is absolutely insane.

I would rather be Wisconsin

 

[Eternal Return]

- Expectations were 7-5/6-6. We can still meet or exceed here

Yes, those were the expectations. And very few (if any) who had those expectations were excited about it. In fact, they were bitching about how bad such results would be in a projected weak B10 West. So all expectations (outside of the Ohio State stomping and crying uncle against UW) have so far been met. Those predicting those records were also saying Iowa would probably lose yet another bowl game. So it's not over yet! If Iowa wins a bowl game this year, any bowl game, the season will exceed the paltry expectations for this team. I'm crossing my fingers for Detroit against the MAC champion. Iowa can win that game. Might be a dogfight, but Iowa has a shot to win. God forbid they get the Music City. No way this team can hang with an SEC opponent outside of the state of Iowa.