People talk about the guy like dirt. Its a sad thing. He will be a fine rep as a graduate of the university. He probably hates Iowa fans, and I can't say that I blame him.
Yep, it's always the fans fault. Don't ever blame the team or the coaches.....you know people who actually play the game.Originally posted by JRHawk2003:
People talk about the guy like dirt. Its a sad thing. He will be a fine rep as a graduate of the university. He probably hates Iowa fans, and I can't say that I blame him.
I apologize that I felt that he wasn't the best QB on the team and in the long run the coaches had similar feelings. I hope the best for him, but I am an Iowa fan and what's best for Iowa is what I ultimately care most about. I feel that the right choice was made and I'm now more excited about next year knowing who will be the starter.Originally posted by JRHawk2003:
Solely because of the fans? No. A factor is wanting to leave? Yes.
He probably will hate Hawk fans like Paul Burmeister does.
I tend to agree, while it may not have been a primary factor in him leaving, it certainly wasn't a positive in terms of staying.Originally posted by JRHawk2003:
People talk about the guy like dirt. Its a sad thing. He will be a fine rep as a graduate of the university. He probably hates Iowa fans, and I can't say that I blame him.
I would say the coaching staff releasing a depth chart with the 2 year starer as QB2 is more of a reason for him leaving than the fans. He is graduating and wants to go to med school. Michigan has a very good med school, needs someone to fill in at QB for a year and their new coach was considered a homerun hire at a traditional powerhouse. Seems like a no brainer to me.Originally posted by JRHawk2003:
Solely because of the fans? No. A factor is wanting to leave? Yes.
He probably will hate Hawk fans like Paul Burmeister does.
You were great in those Vacation movies. Thanks.Originally posted by JRHawk2003:
Our fans are the joke. Idiotic to the hilt....
I hate being associated with a lot of the group, but I am loyal as a 3rd generation alum and I Club member. There are always Cousin Eddies.
Funny stuff JR. Doing some serious trolling today, huh?Originally posted by JRHawk2003:
Our fans are the joke. Idiotic to the hilt....
I hate being associated with a lot of the group, but I am loyal as a 3rd generation alum and I Club member. There are always Cousin Eddies.
Nah, I would think he's smart enough to know that this is how sports works. If he does go to Michigan, he will have played at 2 major B1G universities. Graduated with a Bachelors from Iowa, and likely graduate with a PhD from Michigan. ALL paid for by the way.Originally posted by JRHawk2003:
Solely because of the fans? No. A factor is wanting to leave? Yes.
He probably will hate Hawk fans like Paul Burmeister does.
Ironic coming from JR, mr loyal fan that just a 2-3 weeks ago started multiple threads about firing fran next year - as well as the infamous won't win another game all year.Originally posted by JRHawk2003:
Our fans are the joke. Idiotic to the hilt....
I hate being associated with a lot of the group, but I am loyal as a 3rd generation alum and I Club member. There are always Cousin Eddies.
Give it up. All you do is spout nonsense and create strawman arguments.Originally posted by Hawkeye2222:
funny thing is there has been ABSOLUTELY NOTHING put out by KF or the U of I about him leaving, all I ever see is a bunch of JR BASHER's that keep praying that he leaves so that their GOD can take his RIGHTFUL PLACE as the starter.
until KF give a public announcement that JR is leaving and I doubt he does and I would go so far as saying that JR ends up the starter his RSSR year and it is CJ that leaves. as CJ seems to be the type to pout and leave.
and BOY will this board turn into a major major MELTDOWN and there will be very little support for JR on this site. also if CJ plays like he did against Tennessee IA will be lucky if they win 5-6 games,
but oh wait then it will be the coaches fault fo not getting him ready to play as the starter for a whole season. and yet JR in his 1st season as a full time starter with NO PRIOR playing time went 8-5 finished 2nd in the Legends Division beating Nebraska and Michigan including a win in the OOC against ISU, was mot good enough. in that 2013 season IA lost to these.
MSU 13-1 BT Champ
O$U 12-2 Leaders Champ
Wisconsin 9-4 2nd to O$U in the Leaders division coming off their 3rd straight RB
NIU 12-2 coming off a BCS game season
LSU 10-3 in the bowl game
but that was totally unforgiveable as IA should have gone undefeated, just like the 2014 season where IA should have played if not WON the NT.
THAT's how you hypocrites judge JR AND NOTHING ELSE.
Is there any blame or fault here? He got beat out like 60+ guys on every team get beat out each year.Originally posted by InsaneHawk:
Yep, it's always the fans fault. Don't ever blame the team or the coaches.....you know people who actually play the game.Originally posted by JRHawk2003:
People talk about the guy like dirt. Its a sad thing. He will be a fine rep as a graduate of the university. He probably hates Iowa fans, and I can't say that I blame him.
Originally posted by 4th & 9 inches:
Don't know JR so I'm not going to characterize him, but if you have thin skin you got no business being the QB for a major university.
Morehouse and others have said that Jake hasnt been working out with the team all off season and although Ferentz and the University have not announced anything it is a foregone conclusion.Originally posted by Hawkeye2222:
funny thing is there has been ABSOLUTELY NOTHING put out by KF or the U of I about him leaving, all I ever see is a bunch of JR BASHER's that keep praying that he leaves so that their GOD can take his RIGHTFUL PLACE as the starter.
until KF give a public announcement that JR is leaving and I doubt he does and I would go so far as saying that JR ends up the starter his RSSR year and it is CJ that leaves. as CJ seems to be the type to pout and leave.
and BOY will this board turn into a major major MELTDOWN and there will be very little support for JR on this site. also if CJ plays like he did against Tennessee IA will be lucky if they win 5-6 games,
but oh wait then it will be the coaches fault fo not getting him ready to play as the starter for a whole season. and yet JR in his 1st season as a full time starter with NO PRIOR playing time went 8-5 finished 2nd in the Legends Division beating Nebraska and Michigan including a win in the OOC against ISU, was mot good enough. in that 2013 season IA lost to these.
MSU 13-1 BT Champ
O$U 12-2 Leaders Champ
Wisconsin 9-4 2nd to O$U in the Leaders division coming off their 3rd straight RB
NIU 12-2 coming off a BCS game season
LSU 10-3 in the bowl game
but that was totally unforgiveable as IA should have gone undefeated, just like the 2014 season where IA should have played if not WON the NT.
THAT's how you hypocrites judge JR AND NOTHING ELSE.
Originally posted by JRHawk2003:
People talk about the guy like dirt. Its a sad thing. He will be a fine rep as a graduate of the university. He probably hates Iowa fans, and I can't say that I blame him.
Here I posted a link to front page of yahoo's college football page since I know you don't know how to google it. Looks like KF ran off your QB. Now 2222 you were calling CJ a quitter and trashing him for not sticking it out to fight for the job this bowl season. What does this make Rudock? And before calling out fans maybe how his coach handled situation played some factors. Like waiting till the bowl game to do a rotating qb situation or releasing the depth chart. All those decisions were made by your beloved KF.Originally posted by Hawkeye2222:
funny thing is there has been ABSOLUTELY NOTHING put out by KF or the U of I about him leaving, all I ever see is a bunch of JR BASHER's that keep praying that he leaves so that their GOD can take his RIGHTFUL PLACE as the starter.
until KF give a public announcement that JR is leaving and I doubt he does and I would go so far as saying that JR ends up the starter his RSSR year and it is CJ that leaves. as CJ seems to be the type to pout and leave.
and BOY will this board turn into a major major MELTDOWN and there will be very little support for JR on this site. also if CJ plays like he did against Tennessee IA will be lucky if they win 5-6 games,
but oh wait then it will be the coaches fault fo not getting him ready to play as the starter for a whole season. and yet JR in his 1st season as a full time starter with NO PRIOR playing time went 8-5 finished 2nd in the Legends Division beating Nebraska and Michigan including a win in the OOC against ISU, was mot good enough. in that 2013 season IA lost to these.
MSU 13-1 BT Champ
O$U 12-2 Leaders Champ
Wisconsin 9-4 2nd to O$U in the Leaders division coming off their 3rd straight RB
NIU 12-2 coming off a BCS game season
LSU 10-3 in the bowl game
but that was totally unforgiveable as IA should have gone undefeated, just like the 2014 season where IA should have played if not WON the NT.
THAT's how you hypocrites judge JR AND NOTHING ELSE.
Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:
Nah, I would think he's smart enough to know that this is how sports works. If he does go to Michigan, he will have played at 2 major B1G universities. Graduated with a Bachelors from Iowa, and likely graduate with a PhD from Michigan. ALL paid for by the way.Originally posted by JRHawk2003:
Solely because of the fans? No. A factor is wanting to leave? Yes.
He probably will hate Hawk fans like Paul Burmeister does.
It's not like fans disliked him at all, it's just that they have their chosen QB.We are the life-blood of the sport. Without fans, he never would have had this oppurtunity in the first place.
CJ won the battle and that's that. No reasons to have such hard feelings. It's how the ball rolls.
Every fan base has it's fair share of fans. You are an idiot if you think otherwise. Iowa isn't the first or last college team to have fans upset over who a coach plays etc. Wanting CJ to play over Rudock does not = people hating Rudock. Lame excuse to blame the fans for him transferring. If anyone did any disservice would be the coach rotating QBs in bowl game after he was starter all year and putting him 2nd on a January depth chart.Originally posted by JRHawk2003:
Our fans are the joke. Idiotic to the hilt....
I hate being associated with a lot of the group, but I am loyal as a 3rd generation alum and I Club member. There are always Cousin Eddies.
Boy, he pegged you, Eddie. It's not about wanting someone to play over someone else. A lot of 'so called fans' come on here and twitter, etc (don't forget a comma before etc. I don't know how a 'coach plays etc'. Is it some kind of game?) and make comments that players suck, they're worthless, they don't belong in D1, etc. If you don't think it gets back to the kids on the team or being recruited, through some of their friends or family, etc. than you are a fool. It affects them and I know this to be a fact.Originally posted by iahawkeyes17:
Every fan base has it's fair share of fans. You are an idiot if you think otherwise. Iowa isn't the first or last college team to have fans upset over who a coach plays etc. Wanting CJ to play over Rudock does not = people hating Rudock. Lame excuse to blame the fans for him transferring. If anyone did any disservice would be the coach rotating QBs in bowl game after he was starter all year and putting him 2nd on a January depth chart.Originally posted by JRHawk2003:
Our fans are the joke. Idiotic to the hilt....
I hate being associated with a lot of the group, but I am loyal as a 3rd generation alum and I Club member. There are always Cousin Eddies.
I've been around well over a decade. I haven't seen this level of delusion since the poster named coachsparky. And he was so wacko that he said if my son and his dog were next to each other drowning, he would surely rescue his dog only. Congrats.Originally posted by Hawkeye2222:
until KF give a public announcement that JR is leaving and I doubt he does and I would go so far as saying that JR ends up the starter his RSSR year and it is CJ that leaves. as CJ seems to be the type to pout and leave.
A two year starter and he decides to leave because some fans think another qb on the team is better??!! Are you saying that because of the fans Kirk Ferentz decided to name CJB #1 heading into spring? If so, that is another huge issue if the coach relented to fan pressure.Originally posted by JRHawk2003:
People talk about the guy like dirt. Its a sad thing. He will be a fine rep as a graduate of the university. He probably hates Iowa fans, and I can't say that I blame him.
This post is ridiculous 2222. You talk out both sides of your mouth like no other person on this board.Originally posted by Hawkeye2222:
funny thing is there has been ABSOLUTELY NOTHING put out by KF or the U of I about him leaving, all I ever see is a bunch of JR BASHER's that keep praying that he leaves so that their GOD can take his RIGHTFUL PLACE as the starter.
until KF give a public announcement that JR is leaving and I doubt he does and I would go so far as saying that JR ends up the starter his RSSR year and it is CJ that leaves. as CJ seems to be the type to pout and leave.
and BOY will this board turn into a major major MELTDOWN and there will be very little support for JR on this site. also if CJ plays like he did against Tennessee IA will be lucky if they win 5-6 games,
but oh wait then it will be the coaches fault fo not getting him ready to play as the starter for a whole season. and yet JR in his 1st season as a full time starter with NO PRIOR playing time went 8-5 finished 2nd in the Legends Division beating Nebraska and Michigan including a win in the OOC against ISU, was mot good enough. in that 2013 season IA lost to these.
MSU 13-1 BT Champ
O$U 12-2 Leaders Champ
Wisconsin 9-4 2nd to O$U in the Leaders division coming off their 3rd straight RB
NIU 12-2 coming off a BCS game season
LSU 10-3 in the bowl game
but that was totally unforgiveable as IA should have gone undefeated, just like the 2014 season where IA should have played if not WON the NT.
THAT's how you hypocrites judge JR AND NOTHING ELSE.