Izzo said Iowa should keep Lickliter too -- LOL

[iowamike21]

Izzo should keep his nose out of Iowa City. He said Iowa had no business firing Lickliter, the worst coach in the history of Hawkeye basketball, and there have been plenty of other bad ones. Now Tommy says Iowa should be afraid to fire Fran after only 15 years of mediocrity. What else can you expect at Iowa, right, Tommy? Bullshit.

Ask Wisconsin if coaching matters. The Badgers had NO basketball history at all . . . then they dared to hire Bo Ryan. And they've never looked back, leaving Iowa in the dust.

If Beth doesn't fire Fran, thousands of Iowa fans will be former Iowa fans. If Iowa can't do better, and won't even try, then just give up the sport like Wisconsin gave up baseball a long time ago.

If Indiana hires McCollom, that would be the icing on the Hawkeye cake.

So, Beth, are you afraid, or do you have the "courage" to do what any school would IF it wanted a decent basketball program.

 

[Rambler Hawk]

Izzo should keep his nose out of Iowa City. He said Iowa had no business firing Lickliter, the worst coach in the history of Hawkeye basketball, and there have been plenty of other bad ones. Now Tommy says Iowa should be afraid to fire Fran after only 15 years of mediocrity. What else can you expect at Iowa, right, Tommy? Bullshit.

Ask Wisconsin if coaching matters. The Badgers had NO basketball history at all . . . then they dared to hire Bo Ryan. And they've never looked back, leaving Iowa in the dust.

If Beth doesn't fire Fran, thousands of Iowa fans will be former Iowa fans. If Iowa can't do better, and won't even try, then just give up the sport like Wisconsin gave up baseball a long time ago.

If Indiana hires McCollom, that would be the icing on the Hawkeye cake.

So, Beth, are you afraid, or do you have the "courage" to do what any school would IF it wanted a decent basketball program.

Actually a better example than Wisconsin might be Butler in 2010 and 2011…. Just proves the point that you don’t have to be a blue blood with a roster full of 4/5 star recruits to makes waves in The Big Dance….unfortunately we hired the wrong Butler coach….😢

 

[TampaHawkfan]

Actually a better example than Wisconsin might be Butler in 2010 and 2011…. Just proves the point that you don’t have to be a blue blood with a roster full of 4/5 star recruits to makes waves in The Big Dance….unfortunately we hired the wrong Butler coach….😢

Yes, this may be my favorite example. I have never exactly followed Butler hoops very closely, but it seems unlikely to me that their rosters were loaded with 4-5* recruits. Didn't stop them from winning at a high level. They just had the right head man.

 

[BrewHawk]

If Indiana hires McCollum, they will return to the level of success that made them a Blue Blood.

 

[Rambler Hawk]

Yes, this may be my favorite example. I have never exactly followed Butler hoops very closely, but it seems unlikely to me that their rosters were loaded with 4-5* recruits. Didn't stop them from winning at a high level. They just had the right head man.

It’s pretty crazy when you think about it, especially back then with no portal options. Being an Iowa fan, it would be a wild dream to make just one NC game appearance in my lifetime- but for Butler to pull it off in back to back years is insane….🤪

 

[TampaHawkfan]

It’s pretty crazy when you think about it, especially back then with no portal options. Being an Iowa fan, it would be a wild dream to make just one NC game appearance in my lifetime- but for Butler to pull it off in back to back years is insane….🤪

At least we got two in a row from the women! But I hear you - seeing the men make a run like that would be a once in a lifetime experience. I'm old enough to remember the Elite 8 in 1987, but sadly I don't remember the 1980 Final Four (born in '77).

 

[83Hawk]

It’s none of Izzo’s business.

 

[combes]

Izzo also said Illinois should keep Groce. Lol

 

[iahawks10]

Ask Wisconsin if coaching matters. The Badgers had NO basketball history at all . . . then they dared to hire Bo Ryan. And they've never looked back, leaving Iowa in the dust.

Wisconsin went to the Final Four two seasons before Bo Ryan began coaching there. They definitely had recent history.

 

[jberesford]

What's Izzo's idea of a bad coach?

 

[ChiPackHawk]

If Indiana hires McCollum, they will return to the level of success that made them a Blue Blood.

If he is such a hot commodity, what makes you think he would have any interest in Iowa?

 

[SDHawkDoc]

Izzo's a hall of famer. I also don't give 2 sh!ts about his thoughts on who should be the Iowa men's bball coach.
The Iowa AD will do her job and give his comments the consideration warranted relative to her decision.

 

[TampaHawkfan]

If he is such a hot commodity, what makes you think he would have any interest in Iowa?

Other than being an Iowa native, and an opportunity to coach in the Big Ten, you mean?

 

[AmericaNeedsMe]

Izzo also said Illinois should keep Groce. Lol

LMAO He seems exceedingly comfortable offering unsolicited advice to the administrations of other universities.

 

[BrewHawk]

Other than being an Iowa native, and an opportunity to coach in the Big Ten, you mean?

Exactly.

 

[ChiPackHawk]

Other than being an Iowa native, and an opportunity to coach in the Big Ten, you mean?

You mean come to a school where basketball is a distant 2nd to football and that will not change? Where your home state may produce 1-2 high D-1 prospects every half decade or so, and those more often than not get poached by blue bloods? You mean a school that has such fan apathy they are fortunate to get 8,000 people to attend a Big Ten game and students don't care unless beer is discounted? And this isn't all that recent of a development. I grew up in Iowa too, it doesn't mean I would take a lesser job just because of that. If you are the top candidate out there who has paid his dues already you don't settle and the Iowa job would be settling. If he wants it - great. Just because he is from Iowa doesn't mean he does.

Your By-line (one sweet 16 since 1988) tells you exactly why Iowa is not a top, sought after job.

 

[TampaHawkfan]

You mean come to a school where basketball is a distant 2nd to football and that will not change? Where your home state may produce 1-2 high D-1 prospects every half decade or so, and those more often than not get poached by blue bloods? You mean a school that has such fan apathy they are fortunate to get 8,000 people to attend a Big Ten game and students don't care unless beer is discounted? And this isn't all that recent of a development. I grew up in Iowa too, it doesn't mean I would take a lesser job just because of that. If you are the top candidate out there who has paid his dues already you don't settle and the Iowa job would be settling. If he wants it - great. Just because he is from Iowa doesn't mean he does.

Your By-line (one sweet 16 since 1988) tells you exactly why Iowa is not a top, sought after job.

Ok. You asked why.. I gave a couple of reasons why we would/could be interested. All you're giving me is reasons why he would NOT be interested. Either way, it'll be interesting to see where he ends up and how he does wherever that is.

 

[ChiPackHawk]

Ok. You asked why.. I gave a couple of reasons why we would/could be interested. All you're giving me is reasons why he would NOT be interested. Either way, it'll be interesting to see where he ends up and how he does wherever that is.

You gave me TWO reasons why he would. I countered those reasons with why he wouldn't. Kind of the function of a fan message board. Would I like to see a top coach come to Iowa? Of course I would. I just would not expect it to be automatic because I don't believe it is a top job. Many have considered even Illinois as a stepping stone for coaches to get to the ultimate level of college blue bloods. And I think many people forget that both Lick and Alford were considered top coaching candidates when they came to Iowa. We all know how that worked out.

 

[Rambler Hawk]

Izzo also said Illinois should keep Groce. Lol

Not surprised! 😎

 

[83Hawk]

You mean come to a school where basketball is a distant 2nd to football and that will not change? Where your home state may produce 1-2 high D-1 prospects every half decade or so, and those more often than not get poached by blue bloods? You mean a school that has such fan apathy they are fortunate to get 8,000 people to attend a Big Ten game and students don't care unless beer is discounted? And this isn't all that recent of a development. I grew up in Iowa too, it doesn't mean I would take a lesser job just because of that. If you are the top candidate out there who has paid his dues already you don't settle and the Iowa job would be settling. If he wants it - great. Just because he is from Iowa doesn't mean he does.

Your By-line (one sweet 16 since 1988) tells you exactly why Iowa is not a top, sought after job.

You don’t seem to think much of he University of Iowa, do you?

 

[83Hawk]

If Fran is gone, I can say I was present for both his first and last games at Carver.

 

[BrewHawk]

Iowa would certainly be more patient than Indiana, we know that for sure.

 

[DewHawk]

LMAO He seems exceedingly comfortable offering unsolicited advice to the administrations of other universities.

Izzo is FOS!

 

[TampaHawkfan]

You gave me TWO reasons why he would. I countered those reasons with why he wouldn't. Kind of the function of a fan message board. Would I like to see a top coach come to Iowa? Of course I would. I just would not expect it to be automatic because I don't believe it is a top job. Many have considered even Illinois as a stepping stone for coaches to get to the ultimate level of college blue bloods. And I think many people forget that both Lick and Alford were considered top coaching candidates when they came to Iowa. We all know how that worked out.

I'm not discounting any of your arguments because those are valid points.

Obviously I don't know what makes Ben McCollum tick, so I'm not assuming anything, but I'm not writing him off as someone who would never be interested. I know Iowa isn't the top job out there, but any position in the Big Ten couldn't possibly be THAT unattractive, either. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

 

[ChiPackHawk]

You don’t seem to think much of he University of Iowa, do you?

Well I graduated from there, did you? Me thinking the head coaching job for basketball is not as attractive as many others is irrelevant to what I think of the university.

 

[iahawks10]

Well I graduated from there, did you? Me thinking the head coaching job for basketball is not as attractive as many others is irrelevant to what I think of the university.

My thinking is that Iowa is a P2 school which is very attractive with revenue sharing coming up. Add in the Big East who are bball schools only, Iowa is probably around the top 10% of D1 schools (352 teams). Of that top 10%, Iowa is probably near the bottom of that percentage. Maybe around the 30th most desirable coaching job. JMO

 

[83Hawk]

Well I graduated from there, did you? Me thinking the head coaching job for basketball is not as attractive as many others is irrelevant to what I think of the university.

Yes I did, as did my son. There is a good chance I have been a Hawk fan longer than you have been alive.

The Iowa BB head coaching job isn’t as undesirable as you imply. iahawks10 addressed this very well in the post above. I think you are short-changing the University. You have your opinion and are entitled to it. I happen to disagree.

 

[River-Hawk]

Fran needs more time, guys. He needs more time to show us a sample size of what he can do here, LOL

 

[onlyTheObvious]

Fran needs more time, guys. He needs more time to show us a sample size of what he can do here, LOL

Agreed. It will be great when I can take my grandkids to games and say “yup, we sucked when I was a student here and he was the coach”.

 

[ChiPackHawk]

Yes I did, as did my son. There is a good chance I have been a Hawk fan longer than you have been alive.

The Iowa BB head coaching job isn’t as undesirable as you imply. iahawks10 addressed this very well in the post above. I think you are short-changing the University. You have your opinion and are entitled to it. I happen to disagree.

The quality of the university has absolutely zero to do with the quality of the basketball job. Does the head coaching position for football at Duke do anything for anyone? How about basketball at Stanford? There are good jobs and there are top jobs. All I’m saying is if you’re the top candidate you want the best.

 

[83Hawk]

The quality of the university has absolutely zero to do with the quality of the basketball job. Does the head coaching position for football at Duke do anything for anyone? How about basketball at Stanford? There are good jobs and there are top jobs. All I’m saying is if you’re the top candidate you want the best.

You imply Iowa is not a good coaching job. I disagree. Let’s just leave it at that.

 

[RIGHTWINGHAWK]

Izzo should keep his nose out of Iowa City. He said Iowa had no business firing Lickliter, the worst coach in the history of Hawkeye basketball, and there have been plenty of other bad ones. Now Tommy says Iowa should be afraid to fire Fran after only 15 years of mediocrity. What else can you expect at Iowa, right, Tommy? Bullshit.

Ask Wisconsin if coaching matters. The Badgers had NO basketball history at all . . . then they dared to hire Bo Ryan. And they've never looked back, leaving Iowa in the dust.

If Beth doesn't fire Fran, thousands of Iowa fans will be former Iowa fans. If Iowa can't do better, and won't even try, then just give up the sport like Wisconsin gave up baseball a long time ago.

If Indiana hires McCollom, that would be the icing on the Hawkeye cake.

So, Beth, are you afraid, or do you have the "courage" to do what any school would IF it wanted a decent basketball program.

Iowa needs to hire McCollom. He's a Storm Laker and did a great job at NWMSU and Drake. He's a rising star.

 

[joelbc1]

Izzo should keep his nose out of Iowa City. He said Iowa had no business firing Lickliter, the worst coach in the history of Hawkeye basketball, and there have been plenty of other bad ones. Now Tommy says Iowa should be afraid to fire Fran after only 15 years of mediocrity. What else can you expect at Iowa, right, Tommy? Bullshit.

Ask Wisconsin if coaching matters. The Badgers had NO basketball history at all . . . then they dared to hire Bo Ryan. And they've never looked back, leaving Iowa in the dust.

If Beth doesn't fire Fran, thousands of Iowa fans will be former Iowa fans. If Iowa can't do better, and won't even try, then just give up the sport like Wisconsin gave up baseball a long time ago.

If Indiana hires McCollom, that would be the icing on the Hawkeye cake.

So, Beth, are you afraid, or do you have the "courage" to do what any school would IF it wanted a decent basketball program.

Mike …to say that about Wisky basketball PROVES your ignorance regarding B10 basketball.
You should probably “self-ban” yourself.

 

[ChiPackHawk]

You imply Iowa is not a good coaching job. I disagree. Let’s just leave it at that.

You implied I belittled the university because I don’t think the basketball job is a good one. You’re wrong. Let’s just leave it at that.