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JD Vance ridicules Americans protesting Social Security cuts: ‘It's a cool afternoon, on a Friday, don’t you all have jobs?’

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Vice President JD Vance recently traveled to Bay City, Michigan to speak at a manufacturing plant to tout President Donald Trump's economic agenda, and was welcomed by a crowd of protesters.

But once he was inside the event at Vantage Plastics, Vance ridiculed the protesters — many of whom carried signs bearing messages like "protect Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security" and "fascists not welcome in Michigan" — and suggested that they were only protesting him because they didn't have anything better to do.

Some of the protesters' signs were also focused on South African centibillionaire Elon Musk and his Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE). Musk has repeatedly called for cutting Social Security by hundreds of billions of dollars, and recently railed against the New Deal programas a scheme by Democrats to entice undocumented immigrants to get free money and vote for them in elections (undocumented immigrants don't qualify for Social Security benefits and are not able to vote).

"I'm sure all of us saw there were a few protesters outside," Vance said. "And I can't be the only person wondering, you know, it's a cool afternoon, on a Friday, and don't you all have jobs?"
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"Our administration's plan, our goal is to make it easier and more affordable, to make things within the United States of America. If you invest in America, in American jobs, in American workers, in American businesses, you're going to be rewarded. We're going to cut your taxes, we're going to slash regulations and we're going to reduce the cost of energy, to build things right here in this country that all of us love," the vice president said. "But if you try to undercut us and build outside of our borders, then President Trump's administration has got nothing for you."
 
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This is the projection DURING BIDEN’S Administration!



Based on the most recent projections from the Social Security Board of Trustees' 2024 annual report, the Social Security trust funds are expected to run out of money to pay full benefits in 2035. Specifically, the combined Old-Age and Survivors Insurance (OASI) and Disability Insurance (DI) trust fund reserves are projected to be depleted in 2035, one year later than estimated in the previous year's report. This improvement is attributed to a strong economy, low unemployment, and higher wage growth, which have increased contributions to the program.

Breaking it down further:
- The OASI Trust Fund, which pays retirement and survivor benefits, is projected to be depleted in 2033. After that, it could pay about 79% of scheduled benefits with ongoing revenue.
- The DI Trust Fund, which covers disability benefits, is expected to remain solvent through at least 2098, the end of the 75-year projection period.
- When combined (often referred to as OASDI), the trust funds are projected to be exhausted in 2035, at which point 83% of scheduled benefits could still be paid from continuing income, such as payroll taxes.

However, these dates are estimates and come with uncertainty. The trustees note an 80% probability that the combined trust fund depletion could occur between 2033 and 2039, depending on economic and demographic factors. The Congressional Budget Office, in its 2024 projections, suggests a slightly earlier combined depletion date of 2034. Regardless, Social Security won’t “run out” entirely—benefits would continue at a reduced level unless Congress acts to address the shortfall, possibly through tax increases, benefit adjustments, or a combination of both.

So, the likeliest date based on current data is 2035 for the combined funds, with the caveat that this could shift slightly based on future economic conditions or policy changes.”
 
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Propaganda. Here is what has actually been said.

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There's a reason that everything on Amazon.com is crap. CHINA.

And there is a reason that all of those things are produced there. This is a symptom of late stage capitalism trying to externalize cost through exploitation of people to create more capital with the bonus feature of obsolescence built into production to try to create even more capital. At this point in the capitalism game more capital is created with exploitation or with destabilization of nations through various means with the hopes of rigging governments in a way that is advantageous to our capitalists. So yes, a lot of stuff is made in China, but the people at fault for that are the ones that rigged trade laws and deals to take advantage of capital increasing workarounds that largely ignore the health of our national workforce.
 
And there is a reason that all of those things are produced there. This is a symptom of late stage capitalism trying to externalize cost through exploitation of people to create more capital with the bonus feature of obsolescence built into production to try to create even more capital. At this point in the capitalism game more capital is created with exploitation or with destabilization of nations through various means with the hopes of rigging governments in a way that is advantageous to our capitalists. So yes, a lot of stuff is made in China, but the people at fault for that are the ones that rigged trade laws and deals to take advantage of capital increasing workarounds that largely ignore the health of our national workforce.

The communists abuse the capitalism and it is the capitalism fault! Brilliant logic here Moral.
 
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This is really not surprising.

100% of the MAGA base is ~35% of the country. Which means 9/65 or about 14% of the rest of us think we are on the right track. Trump’s base will never leave him, so that sets his floor at about 35%. I doubt we see this go higher than it is now during his term. The halo effect is wearing off faster than it did under Biden.
 
And there is a reason that all of those things are produced there. This is a symptom of late stage capitalism trying to externalize cost through exploitation of people to create more capital with the bonus feature of obsolescence built into production to try to create even more capital. At this point in the capitalism game more capital is created with exploitation or with destabilization of nations through various means with the hopes of rigging governments in a way that is advantageous to our capitalists. So yes, a lot of stuff is made in China, but the people at fault for that are the ones that rigged trade laws and deals to take advantage of capital increasing workarounds that largely ignore the health of our national workforce.
The Tradition is an obvious sociopath. You could cite all the evidence in the world to your point, but the only thing that moves the needle for him is greed. More money for him and those above him is all he cares about
 
The Tradition is an obvious sociopath. You could cite all the evidence in the world to your point, but the only thing that moves the needle for him is greed. More money for him and those above him is all he cares about

Counterpoint: Everyone is above him - ipso facto - more money for everyone!
 
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The communists abuse the capitalism and it is the capitalism fault! Brilliant logic here Moral.

Explain your logic. China isn't really communist would be an easier argument to make than anything you will come up with. They do have areas of socialism like most developed nations but they compete heavily in the capitalist arena. As I was saying, American capitalists look for ways to exploit systems to make more capital. China did not force outsourcing of US jobs onto the US capitalist companies, those companies went to China to increase capital through exploitation.


What we are looking at here is not a repudiation of progressive ideals but the lack of attention given by the neoliberals of the party towards working class people. It doesn't imply what you try to make it imply.
 
This is really not surprising.

100% of the MAGA base is ~35% of the country. Which means 9/65 or about 14% of the rest of us think we are on the right track. Trump’s base will never leave him, so that sets his floor at about 35%. I doubt we see this go higher than it is now during his term. The halo effect is wearing off faster than it did under Biden.
No matter how much damage he does he might lose 2% of his cult following, tops. We see it right here. How many guys/goldmom have we convinced that Trump is who we say he is? Almost none of them.
 
I love it when they state "extreme fraud" with Social Security - that's a pretty bold statement to throw out at us all.

Show us all the fraud. You've had what, not even 2 full months yet? Seriously. How in the actual hell do you know of "extreme fraud" when there's no chance in hell that you've been able to review and audit EVERY SINGLE RECIPIENT OF SOCIAL SECURITY to determine how much actual fraud there is.

Prove it, assholes - before you touch one single penny of it, before you touch any single piece of the puzzle operationally that is used by The People to get what THEY DESERVE from Social Security - prove it in so simple of terms and proof that not one single person in this country can disagree with your findings. None of this bullshit "shut it off and then a couple weeks later saying oops, we're sorry we f***** up, give us some time and we'll turn it all back on" we've been exposed to so far.

Prove it...we mean REALLY prove it. Otherwise, all we're going to do is doubt EVERY WORD THAT COMES OUT OF YOUR MOUTHS.
 
This is really not surprising.

100% of the MAGA base is ~35% of the country. Which means 9/65 or about 14% of the rest of us think we are on the right track. Trump’s base will never leave him, so that sets his floor at about 35%. I doubt we see this go higher than it is now during his term. The halo effect is wearing off faster than it did under Biden.

That is one take yes. MAGA is about 1/3 of the GOP. Meaning about 1/3 of 40% of the country or about 13.3%. Which means another 31% of the country thinks we are on the right track.

40% GOP
40% Dem
20% Ind or apolitical.

Something like 30-35% of the country doesn’t bother to vote. We’ll see.
 
I love it when they state "extreme fraud" with Social Security - that's a pretty bold statement to throw out at us all.

Show us all the fraud. You've had what, not even 2 full months yet? Seriously. How in the actual hell do you know of "extreme fraud" when there's no chance in hell that you've been able to review and audit EVERY SINGLE RECIPIENT OF SOCIAL SECURITY to determine how much actual fraud there is.

Prove it, assholes - before you touch one single penny of it, before you touch any single piece of the puzzle operationally that is used by The People to get what THEY DESERVE from Social Security - prove it in so simple of terms and proof that not one single person in this country can disagree with your findings. None of this bullshit "shut it off and then a couple weeks later saying oops, we're sorry we f***** up, give us some time and we'll turn it all back on" we've been exposed to so far.

Prove it...we mean REALLY prove it. Otherwise, all we're going to do is doubt EVERY WORD THAT COMES OUT OF YOUR MOUTHS.
They aren’t fooling us. They want to steal the money Americans have paid into SS for their entire working lives. Republicans have had their eyes on it for decades. It will be theft when it happens.
 
That is one take yes. MAGA is about 1/3 of the GOP. Meaning about 1/3 of 40% of the country or about 13.3%. Which means another 31% of the country thinks we are on the right track.

40% GOP
40% Dem
20% Ind or apolitical.

Something like 30-35% of the country doesn’t bother to vote. We’ll see.
I am curious on a link to a survey where you see 1/3 of the GOP is MAGA. I remember stats like that from 2016, but that has changed. In those days folks like Rubio, Vance, Graham and Cruz were anti-Trump. Now? MAGA is the vast majority.

I’m not trying to play a gotcha game here, I am legitimately curious if my belief is wrong and the data behind your take on this.
 
They aren’t fooling us. They want to steal the money Americans have paid into SS for their entire working lives. Republicans have had their eyes on it for decades. It will be theft when it happens.

They would love to get that 2 trillion of SS money moved over into the market. It will play out like the crypto scheme will with the infusion of government money via a sovereign wealth fund financed by selling public land. Such large sums of money will increase the value of where ever it is added creating artificial increases in value similar to a stock buyback but in these scenarios it creates the opportunity for wealthy to walk out with more money because of the infused liquidity pool at which point the market adjusts to where it was or worse positions. It's like a hack for increased income inequality and wealth consolidation. There would be guaranteed insider information in both of these scenarios to rig the game as much as possible.
 
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