God ****ing damn it. Frans fault
Joe T gone
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Will always be a fan of his. We will surely miss his presence next year.
This one hurts. What a ****ing disgrace the way he was utilized.
It’s Fran’s fault that Joe doesn’t want to compete for the wide open PG spot? Ok.
Fans everywhere had better get used to temporary rosters. Teams are going to look different year over year.
I don’t think it’s good for CBB but overall but it’s beneficial to individual players.
Fans everywhere had better get used to temporary rosters. Teams are going to look different year over year.
I don’t think it’s good for CBB but overall but it’s beneficial to individual players.
Its Frans fault that for two straight years he was misused. Arguably most valuable player on the court vs purdue then plays 13 min vs richmond while connor plays 25 min of scoreless ball? A freakin joke
um… love Joe T he’s a hell of a hawk and his attitude was unreal especially in this day and age but Iowa got better when he went to the bench.
Agreed. Expected this to be Ulis and not Toussaint. Not sure I understand working your way to a starting position for 3 years and then leaving when it's finally in your lap, but JT was probably capped at 25 mins per game next year so can understand if he wants more.
Sure hope the recruits this fall can step in quickly and capably.
Joe, like Bohannon, is a one dimensional player. Just at the other end of the court. His specialty is D, which as we all know is secondary to offense for Fran. That’s why he didn’t play more minutes. Connor didn’t cut into Joe’s minutes, Jordan did. Now that Jordan’s gone….well kind of an odd move imo but it goes back to Fran emphasizing O over D. Best of luck to Joe.
Probably because ultra talented connor mccaffrey is coming back to take minutes of players who actually should be playing big ten basketball
This stinks, I like Joe T a lot, but his skills are a better fit in a different system.
the overlove of Joe T on this site is insane
A great perimeter defender who can beat people off the dribble. Give me a freakin break.
Connor was very rarely taking minutes from JT.
I'm triggggggered. Just let me have this, I'll get over it
Did Fran try much Perkins and Toussaint this year? The reason I say this, is because I believe Perkins was just as much of a reason that Iowa finished well, rather than Bohannon.
One also has to wonder what Rebraca, Murray, Murray, Perkins and Toussaint would have looked like if they were named starters from day one.
I'm hoping Bowen can do both of those and shoot effectively.
Joe T was never given a fair shake. He had the shortest leash I’ve ever seen. That anxiety no doubt carried over into his play on the court, as he often tried to do too much.
I’m surprised Joe didn’t leave after last year, tbh. I don’t know that this is a bad thing for Iowa basketball, though, as it should pave the way for this Bowen we’ve heard so much about to earn his way into meaningful minutes.
See ya Joe. Loved you.
I think well be fine without him fwiw.
I think well be fine without him fwiw.
This is a good point. To get to that “next level” it’s essential that your PG can do it all. Like I said previously, our PG play was flawed because they were all one dimensional.
We may disagree on the why but Joe T just never fully developed. I hope he kills it wherever he lands.
This is really not a surprise after losing his starting spot. Neither would Connor be running the point next year. Good luck Joe!
Yep. There were a lot of things I liked about Joe, but he didn’t move the needle in comparison to other Fran pgs. And that’s really where we’re still at in the Fran era: waiting on a difference maker at pg.
Correct.
On Jan 31, Iowa lost at Penn State 90-86 in double OT. Iowa's record after that game was 14-7, 4-6.
On Feb 6, vs Minnesota, Fran made 2 changes:
(1) Jordan was back at starting Point Guard (Joe came off the bench)
(2) Tony Perkins was the new starting 2 guard.
The result of this change?
* Iowa won 12 of 14 and had a record of 26-9 entering the NCAA Tournament.
* Iowa won a B1G Tournament Championship for the first time since 2006.
* Iowa got a 5 seed in the NCAA Tournament
What makes you think the starting position was his for the taking?
I don’t think there’s much of a why to disagree on. Joe T was flashy and quick, but he was a turnover liability and a below average shooter. What he did excel at is defense, which I felt separated him from the other pg options Iowa had.
I understand why Fran benched him. Joe T is an average P5 player. My contention, in terms of the fair shake, is the other option Fran favored over him—and extended a lot of grace to—was not better in terms of overall productivity. Perhaps there will be where our disagreement lies.
The roster composition next season and the fact he has started many games in his career to date.
The part that made Joe so hard to play was his poor decision making at times on the offensive end. I don't have any stats but I would say he led the team by far in turnovers per minutes played. Fran values players that don't turn it over. I loved his energy, this team needed this in a bad way, but not good enough offensively. He also found himself penetrating too deep and finding nowhere to go, and that is not Frans offense.
And lost his starting point guard position for the second time. If I were Joe I wouldn't have any confidence that I'd be starting especially if Connor's coming back.
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