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Joining drag queens on TV show costs Indiana pastor his job

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The Rev. Craig Duke has been a Methodist minister for three decades, building a reputation as a staunch advocate of LGBTQ inclusion. His pastoral duties have now been terminated — the result of a bitter rift surfacing in his Indiana church after he sought to demonstrate solidarity by appearing in drag alongside prominent drag queens in the HBO reality series “We’re Here.”
Duke, 62, said he thought most of his 400-member congregation at Newburgh United Methodist Church shared his inclusive views, and he was taken aback when a prominent congregation member, soon backed by other churchgoers, circulated emails attacking him.

“You have thrown NUMC under the bus to elevate a minority of individuals,” said one of the emails. Another, according to Duke, said Satan must be pleased with the discord over LGBTQ rights.

Duke, who declined to identify his chief critics, told The Associated Press that the attacks “felt very personal,” causing him to worry about his mental health.
“It was a matter of sadness and disappointment and heartbreak on my part ... realizing I was losing the ability to lead,” he said.

Under United Methodist Church protocol, a pastor does not have the option of resigning, but Duke said he made clear to his immediate superior, regional superintendent Mitch Gieselman, that he needed to step away.


On Nov. 26, Gieselman — who had been hearing from the pastor’s critics and supporters — sent a letter to the NUMC congregation announcing that Duke “is being relieved of his pastoral duties.”
Through the next three months, Duke said he and his wife will be allowed to continue living in the NUMC parsonage, while he incurs a 40% pay cut. They must relocate no later than Feb. 28, when his pay will be halted, Gieselman said.



While Gieselman noted in his letter than Duke’s actions had “polarized” the congregation, he said none of those actions constituted formal violations of UMC’s Book of Discipline, which functions as a legal code for Methodist clergy.
“I was bullied out,” Duke said.
The episode of “We’re Here” featuring Duke — at one point shown in a dress, high-heeled boots, a pink wig and heavy make-up — was taped in July but did not air until Nov. 8.
Duke was invited to participate in the show by an LGBTQ Pride group in nearby Evansville and accepted in part to show support for his 23-year-old daughter, Tiffany, who identifies as pansexual.

The premise of “We’re Here,” an Emmy-nominated series now in its second season, is that three renowned drag performers travel to towns and small cities across the U.S., recruiting a few locals to join them as drag queens.




Even before the episode was broadcast, some congregation members complained that Duke hadn’t given them advance notice of his decision to be in the show, which included scenes filmed at the church. In response, Duke wrote to the congregation in August, saying he was sorry that trust in his leadership had been damaged.

But he defended his motives, saying, “I was willing and excited to share God’s love with the LGBTQ community on a national level.”
Any hope that conflict would subside vanished in mid-November when the emails attacking him began to circulate.
The rift within Duke’s congregation reflects broader divisions within the United Methodist Church, the largest mainline Protestant denomination in the United States.
Conservative leaders in the UMC have unveiled plans to form a new denomination, the Global Methodist Church, with a doctrine that does not recognize same-sex marriage. The move could hasten the long-expected breakup of the UMC over differing approaches to LGBTQ inclusion, including whether LGBTQ people should be ordained as clergy.


Due to the coronavirus pandemic, the UMC’s General Conference — at which the schism would be debated — has been postponed for two consecutive years and is now scheduled for August 2022 in Minneapolis.


According to Duke, one of the reasons he was invited to appear on “We’re Here” was because of the divisions in both his own church and the UMC.
“My only hope and goal was and is to bring the message of God’s unconditional love to a community that has been greatly marginalized,” Duke wrote to his congregation.

The decision to terminate Duke’s duties already has had ripple effects. His wife, Linda, who was pastor of youth ministry, resigned. So did church administrative assistant Erin Sexton, who along with her husband, Chris, organized a GoFundMe campaign to help the Dukes.

As of Wednesday morning, more than $52,000 had been pledged by more than 900 people, scores of whom added comments thanking Duke for his LGBTQ advocacy.
Chris Sexton said he had been a member of Newburgh United Methodist since childhood and described Duke as “one of the most captivating and genuine” of the many pastors who served over the years. But the Sextons said many congregants shied away from the conflict over “We’re Here," allowing Duke’s critics to dominate the debate.

Duke is unsure what his next step will be, though he doesn't plan to return to pastoring. One possibility, he said, would be for him and his wife to establish “an inclusive camp” for youths and young adults.


“My heart is moving in a new direction,” he said. “There are so many people who have been hurt by religion, felt rejection, who are reaching out, who are hopeful this will spark me to do something different on their behalf.”

 
Honestly it was not a wise move in the least. I too would be questioning my pastor's ability to lead if he did that.
 
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Duke is unsure what his next step will be, though he doesn't plan to return to pastoring. One possibility, he said, would be for him and his wife to establish “an inclusive camp” for youths and young adults.


“My heart is moving in a new direction,” he said. “There are so many people who have been hurt by religion, felt rejection, who are reaching out, who are hopeful this will spark me to do something different on their behalf.”


That'd be pretty cool, tbh.
 
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I sit here wondering what would Jesus do here? Even if you believe that lifestyle is a sin, does that sin seperate the person afflicted from God? I think not. And so what is this pastor truly guilty of? Loving the LGBTQ community too much? Is there really such a thing for a Christian?
 
People are who they are, and they’re gonna do what and whomever they wanna do. I mean, if a man wants to be or dress like a woman, so be it. And vice versa. If it makes them happy and they’re not hurting anyone, why do the self righteous have such a big problem with it?
 
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I sit here wondering what would Jesus do here? Even if you believe that lifestyle is a sin, does that sin seperate the person afflicted from God? I think not. And so what is this pastor truly guilty of? Loving the LGBTQ community too much? Is there really such a thing for a Christian?

That isn't the question though. The pastor willingly engaged in it to make some sort of point.

He got fired because of the clothes he wore. That doesn’t sound reasonable.

Being a pastor isn't like a lot of other jobs. You can't just wear whatever you feel like.

Pastors should generally IMO be conservative in their dress and appearance, conservative in their approach to life and their manner of speech and extremely liberal with God's love and grace.
 
That isn't the question though. The pastor willingly engaged in it to make some sort of point.



Being a pastor isn't like a lot of other jobs. You can't just wear whatever you feel like.

Pastors should generally IMO be conservative in their dress and appearance, conservative in their approach to life and their manner of speech and extremely liberal with God's love and grace.
Except the queers?
 
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That isn't the question though. The pastor willingly engaged in it to make some sort of point.



Being a pastor isn't like a lot of other jobs. You can't just wear whatever you feel like.

Pastors should generally IMO be conservative in their dress and appearance, conservative in their approach to life and their manner of speech and extremely liberal with God's love and grace.
Pastors often wear more make up than Draq Queens.
 
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That isn't the question though. The pastor willingly engaged in it to make some sort of point.



Being a pastor isn't like a lot of other jobs. You can't just wear whatever you feel like.

Pastors should generally IMO be conservative in their dress and appearance, conservative in their approach to life and their manner of speech and extremely liberal with God's love and grace.
Like Jesus - he was very conservative and never hung out with whores or lepers.
 
Just because he spent time with prostitutes for example doesn't mean he dressed up like one.



It's questionable decision making from a person leading a church.
Was spending time with whores conservative? Did the elders chastise him for it?

You all seem to forget what being Christlike is. This guy is reaching out to people and bringing them to his church and all you old holier-than-thou types can do is ridicule because he doesn't meet your conservative standards.
 
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Was spending time with whores conservative? Did the elders chastise him for it?

You all seem to forget what being Christlike is. This guy is reaching out to people and bringing them to his church and all you old holier-than-thou types can do is ridicule because he doesn't meet your conservative standards.

Hoosier thrives on using religion to raise himself up. The feeling of being morally superior is the only bright thing in his dull life.
 
Was spending time with whores conservative? Did the elders chastise him for it?

You all seem to forget what being Christlike is. This guy is reaching out to people and bringing them to his church and all you old holier-than-thou types can do is ridicule because he doesn't meet your conservative standards.

Again I'm not taking issue with the fact that he spends time with LGBT people. My issue is that he appeared to essentially join in with them in order to make some sort of point.

The UMC is one of the more liberal denominations out there and there doesn't seem to be much defense of what he did coming from it's members or it's leaders.

This is way out of step from pastoral character. Being out there and doing unconventional things is generally not a good idea for pastors.
 
The UMC is one of the more liberal denominations

The UMC has some very liberal congregations and conferences (groups of congregations), but also has some very conservative parts as well. Newburgh Indiana is in one of the more conservative conferences in Indiana.

The conservative wing of the UMC has enough power and votes that the UMC will likely break up in the next 2-4 years.
 
The UMC has some very liberal congregations and conferences (groups of congregations), but also has some very conservative parts as well. Newburgh Indiana is in one of the more conservative conferences in Indiana.

The conservative wing of the UMC has enough power and votes that the UMC will likely break up in the next 2-4 years.

That tracks with my previous experience in the ELCA and doesn't shock me.

However I believe the UMC assigns pastors to parishes. In that case the assignment of this pastor to this parish was a massive mistake. Pastors should reflect the temperament of their congregations.
 
That tracks with my previous experience in the ELCA and doesn't shock me.

However I believe the UMC assigns pastors to parishes. In that case the assignment of this pastor to this parish was a massive mistake. Pastors should reflect the temperament of their congregations.

There is a shortage of pastors in the UMC. Sometimes assignments aren't as well matched as they should be.
 
There is a shortage of pastors in the UMC. Sometimes assignments aren't as well matched as they should be.

This is a really bad match to say the least.

I can't blame them for not feeling like he isn't qualified to lead their church.
 
This is a really bad match to say the least.

I can't blame them for not feeling like he isn't qualified to lead their church.

I am sure he is well qualified. He likely has multiple degrees, went through seminary and has many years in ministry.

And it may even be a good match overall. It sounds like there is a small, yet vocal group of people who disagree with this one particular action. I don't agree with my pastor on everything and that is a good thing.
 
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