Jok was smokin hot in the second half, got poked in the eye, no frickin call, they went on an 18-4 run while Jok recovered. Game over. Just bs
Jok eyepoke difference in game
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They aren't going to call that ...ever. Heck it was hard to see on slo-mo.
Very weak post by the OP. Staff and the players didn't man up, period. No spin here.
isu fans have never seen a call against isu they agree with.
18-4 run when he had to leave. That's fact not spin. He was as hot as Utoff was the 1st half, fact, not spin. Quit being so pissed off.
It was a very big "poke" but that doesn't excuse Iowa pissing this one away. If Jok doesn't get hurt they probably would have found another way to choke it away. Like Fran would have taken out Jok because "we need to give him some rest". Don't underestimate Fran's ability to screw up games.
As another poster mentions, it was marginal at best. You can blame the refs or the coaching staff and players can man up.
Disappointed in Fran and team - let's be honest in the real root cause.
That is not fact. I'm a stickler for stats and since Jok had been playing so well at the start of the 2nd half I wrote down the time he left the game in case it was a turning point in the game and the time was 12:49 in the second half with the score 67-54 Iowa. I didn't notice when Jok came back in the game but heard his name so knew he had returned. After reading your post I went to the trustworthy play by play of the game as I was curious and Jok returned at the 11:35 mark with the score 69-54 Iowa so Iowa scored 2 points to none for ISU when Jok was out of the game.
You can check my facts at the link to the play by play below. Apparently it wasn't an eye poke at all as Fran said he had a contact issue so you must not have noted when he returned as I didn't either so they must not have been calling his name.
Half time score 49-35 Iowa
Jok started the second half on a roll:
subbed out at 14:39 score 65-48 Iowa
subbed in at 13:46 score 67-51 Iowa
subbed out at 12:49 score 67-54 Iowa what turned out to be a contact problem
subbed back in at 11:35 score 69-54 Iowa
subbed out at 5:10 score 73-70 Iowa
subbed in at 3:06 score 80-74 Iowa and I thought the game was decided
Jok then played the final 3:06
http://www.hawkeyesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/stats/2015-2016/iowa10.html
I thought the eye poke looked intensional. I can't remember who was guarding Jok but it looked to me that he saw he was getting beat on the play so he just raked Jok across the eyes. IMOP
Ok, come on. Watch it again, he hit the screen from Woody and his hand went up. I'm a Hawk homer, but that was as unintentional as it gets. You could hardly even see it on the replay. The announcers thought that Woody hit him, safe assumption, but it was tough to see and definitely unintentional.
Fran took Jok out to rest after he had hit all the shots to keep Iowa's lead in 2nd half. After Jok came back in, the eye poke happened and there was no one that could score and Joke was not the same.
Fran has a strategy to rest Jok to keep him fresh, but I don't think it made sense to pull him when he was making shots and there was not one else making shots.
We could have used Jones a lot in this game. Plus we need better guards that can create their own shot and shoot better.
Fran has a strategy to rest Jok to keep him fresh, but I don't think it made sense to pull him when he was making shots and there was not one else making shots.
We could have used Jones a lot in this game. Plus we need better guards that can create their own shot and shoot better.
Iowa should be ashamed of themselves for choking this one away. Period. BUT, when Woody had the eye poke last year, hell, the broadcasters and others were ready to lynch him. I believe he was given a T and, if I remember correctly, may have been ejected. His character was attacked. He was libeled and slandered, and it went on and on and on. Did any of that happen last night? Any raging commentaries about the lack of courage and character of the ISU eye-poker today? Any suggestions he be suspended?
No, it didn't lose the game. But yes, it did affect the game, and it certainly was NOT dealt with--by refs or broadcasters--anywhere near the way it was when Woody was involved. Where is that clown Dakich, BTW?
No, it didn't lose the game. But yes, it did affect the game, and it certainly was NOT dealt with--by refs or broadcasters--anywhere near the way it was when Woody was involved. Where is that clown Dakich, BTW?
I am vocal here and on Twitter on my dislike for Dakich, and I don't think that Woodbury intentionally poked anyone, but this was not even close to the same situation. What happened with him and all of the articles written about his character and all of that was BS. Woody had a guy faced up on him and reached out, the other one was in open space with Trimble driving. They were in the open. This was going around a screen, and if you watch a guy fight through a screen they almost always stick an arm out.
This was unfortunate and YES, it did change the game with Jok out, but in this game it took a slow-mo replay to figure out what even happened.
It effected the game as PJ was hot but anyone thinking that was intentional is delusional, nor did they watch the replay.
Good question. My seats are in the sixth row behind the Iowa bench, so that happened right in front of me. And I only saw one angle of it, have not seen the video, and am not exactly objective, so there's that.
God alone knows why people were booing; probably some of them were booing for one reason, others for another. We aren't talking about rational behavior here. It's college basketball in a rivalry ame.
I thought they were booing because the officials stopped the clock and let Iowa retain possession. It should have been a turnover, and they aren't supposed to stop play for an injury. We've all seen it time after time after time....a guy writhing in pain on the floor while his teammates are going 4-on-5 at the other end of the court. Happened just this week to ISU when Niang was hurt against Buffalo. If they're going to stop play, they have to give the ball to ISU.
When it happened, I thought it was a case of Woodbury and Jok getting tangled up. But from what I've read here, that apparently wasn't the case. It was confusing. It looked like Fran was preventing people from the Iowa bench from looking after Jok, which doesn't make sense so that must not have been what was happening.
That was minute or two. That timeout was the first of four questionable calls on that single possession, all against ISU, and it eventually ended with Iowa scoring.
They say the refs at the scoring table don't always see all of the same replays we are shown on TV. Even after the replay the TV people said Jok might have even caught the elbow of Woodbury as they passed on the screen. You see things like that many times in replays. Players especially on screens fall back because there was contact in fast motion or even on replay it doesn't show two players contacted in anyway yet the player may be on the floor. At any rate Jok was only out of the game for a little over a minute. I heard Fran say in the post game that PJ had a contact problem which can be brutal if one doubles up on you.
If this post shows Joke for Jok I didn't type it that way and is maybe why earlier posts above this was listing him as Joke.
Anyway to bad it happened as I never like to see any player get hurt. It's a miracle there aren't more ankle injuries than there are what with so many guys going for rebounds under the basket and often having their feet in the same space.
If this post shows Joke for Jok I didn't type it that way and is maybe why earlier posts above this was listing him as Joke.
Anyway to bad it happened as I never like to see any player get hurt. It's a miracle there aren't more ankle injuries than there are what with so many guys going for rebounds under the basket and often having their feet in the same space.
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Ridiculouse excuse.
Iowa lost because they don't have good enough guards to attack pressure defense.
When an opponent plays overly aggressive ball pressure you either attack the basket or you fall apart.
Iowa fell apart. Like they always do.
None of Iowa guards are good enough off the dribble.
That and Fran doesn't seem to know how to coach these players,he continues to let them lose in the same disorganized way over and over.
All they had to do was inbound a ball.
Iowa lost because they don't have good enough guards to attack pressure defense.
When an opponent plays overly aggressive ball pressure you either attack the basket or you fall apart.
Iowa fell apart. Like they always do.
None of Iowa guards are good enough off the dribble.
That and Fran doesn't seem to know how to coach these players,he continues to let them lose in the same disorganized way over and over.
All they had to do was inbound a ball.
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