I think if you look back that a lot of posters thought he was a project. I reserved judgment because frankly, there just wasn't enough video on him to make a reasonable judgment.
That said, I see potential but he's no where near ready for many B1G minutes. 5 - 10 minutes a game as needed, but he is still trying to figure it out. Not sure if the light will come on but I hope so.
Mulvey has shown more potential in his HS videos. He still looks like a deer in the headlights out there, but he does have a nose for the ball rebounding.
I hope at least one of these 2 can pan out.