I did not take offense to what Biden said because I agree with him that we need to take back our country from the extremists and stop letting them run over the rest of us. That is the opposite of what the Germans did back in the 30's. Nice try though.
Judge unseals detailed inventory of classified materials seized from Mar-a-Lago
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I did not take offense to what Biden said because I agree with him that we need to take back our country from the extremists and stop letting them run over the rest of us. That is the opposite of what the Germans did back in the 30's. Nice try though.
Barr is correct.
Trump could have given the documents back. Not hidden them from the Feds etc etc. But that's all the DOJ's fault.
And where was this during his time as the personal lawyer of Trump aka the AG?
I have concerns about those who did not speak up when they were in Trump's inner circle, but I also appreciate the fact that they are speaking up now.
I'd say it's egregious and commonplace in both the digital and physical security side of things. I personally don't deal in govt. top secret but know people that do and it's pretty surprising what they've seen. No one should do it. I'm not excusing it. Just saying it happens on a scale that I think the average joe would be surprised by.
anything declassified would be stamped right on it.
Are you nuts? Why would I be offended that Biden had harsh words directed at these people?
It really depends on the nature of the items. If these are personal gifts and correspondence, then clearly going to this length to retrieve them was unnecessary and politically motivated.
The idea that Trump himself is there packing up a uhaul and deciding what to bring seems far fetched to me. Far more likely that he literally was planning on staying, had to move out in a hurry, and his team just sloppily boxed up everything, including classified documents, on their way out. Trump being the slob he is I bet doesn’t even know what he has.
The other possibility in my mind is that he has blackmail info on people that he wants to leverage in a future campaign. That seems in character for him. Much more likely than selling out the country IMO.
But the idea that all of this activity is happening right before the election is just too convenient. Clearly the campaign theme for the Dem midterms is run against MAGA.
I guess they should have let him do whatever he wanted with classified docs until after a specific date. Trump lickers sure are a special group.
... Either that or perhaps there is some double counting going on here. They seem to have been rushing this process, and I doubt that they matched un-foldered documents with their appropriate folders.
Always conspiracy with team delusion. Decipher the facts and timeline to refute yourself.
Well, when you're dealing with a criminal like Trump, it's going to always be election season.
The Radical Right wants an investigation to prove a conspiracy exists. That takes time and $$$.
Here's an idea... don't break the law and you don't have any worries.
Who cares, Corrupt Filthy Don should go in front of a firing squad. Thats a just penalty.
It should not matter if it is convenient or not from an election standpoint. According to what has been reported, there have been attempts to retrieve these documents for more than a year. In typical Trump fashion, he has delayed and delayed while claiming he is cooperating. I do believe that this is an opportunity for the GOP to distance themselves from Trump. So far, they have squandered those opportunities.
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OMG please never change. Every online forum needs its village idiot, and I daresay you may be the best, most consistent one on the entire internet.
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What do the words in this sentence mean to you?
Investigators seized from Trump's office seven documents marked "top secret."
They're top secret /SCI documents. Not "personal gifts and correspondence" JFC.
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What about the 7 actual top secret documents the recovered?
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You realize if Trump had turned over the items requested many months ago, it wouldn't have been "right before the election" right?
He, and he alone, had control over the timing. All he had to do is not lie and to comply. He lied. He did not comply. And now he's in trouble.
I agree.. anything to arrest him. Especially little things like leading a revolt to subvert a legal presidential election... Or stealing classified government documents... Or lying to the American people... Or threatening state officials to lie on his behalf. Or maybe he just get impeached twice. Oh wait, that has happened. Lock him up... Lock him up..
Now trying to get others to take the fall for him? Either way, he still had many months to return the document IF that is what indeed happened.
It's the latest media reporting about the chaotic transition from the Trump administration to the Biden administration, one that now is at the center of an unprecedented federal criminal investigation of the former president.
According to the Times, the former Trump officials who were interviewed said they didn't recall ever seeing classified material going into boxes. But several of the people said that the packing had to happen in secret "to avoid being ordered to stop by Mr. Trump, who continued to assert that he had won the election."
NBC News reported in August that once Trump realized his time as commander-in-chief was up, he hurriedly stuffed document after document into banker boxes and shipped them to his Palm Beach estate. Politico last month cited former aides who said the Oval Office and an adjacent private dining room only got packed up the weekend before Trump left the White House.
"In my entire time of briefing President Bush, he asked to keep only one thing, which was a chart of those responsible for 9/11, which he then, when we captured or killed somebody on that list, he would cross off," Michael J. Morell, former deputy director of the C.I.A. and an agency analyst who delivered President George W. Bush's daily intelligence briefing, told the New York Times.
The boxes with classified info found at Mar-a-Lago may have ended up there because White House aides were secretly packing while Trump insisted he wouldn't have to leave
- In the chaos after the 2020 election, White House aides were secretly packing Trump's boxes.
- Classified materials may have made their way to Mar-A-Lago amidst the kerfuffle.
- Ex-Trump officials told the New York Times they didn't recall ever seeing classified material going into boxes.
It's the latest media reporting about the chaotic transition from the Trump administration to the Biden administration, one that now is at the center of an unprecedented federal criminal investigation of the former president.
According to the Times, the former Trump officials who were interviewed said they didn't recall ever seeing classified material going into boxes. But several of the people said that the packing had to happen in secret "to avoid being ordered to stop by Mr. Trump, who continued to assert that he had won the election."
NBC News reported in August that once Trump realized his time as commander-in-chief was up, he hurriedly stuffed document after document into banker boxes and shipped them to his Palm Beach estate. Politico last month cited former aides who said the Oval Office and an adjacent private dining room only got packed up the weekend before Trump left the White House.
"In my entire time of briefing President Bush, he asked to keep only one thing, which was a chart of those responsible for 9/11, which he then, when we captured or killed somebody on that list, he would cross off," Michael J. Morell, former deputy director of the C.I.A. and an agency analyst who delivered President George W. Bush's daily intelligence briefing, told the New York Times.
Did u see how these items are marked. You'd have to be a blind attorney. Not to know they were marked classified. It's a completely binary decision. It's either classified and stays. Or it's not classified and can be taken.
Trump dragged his feet and gasp lied multiple times to conceal items he knew the government wanted. If they wanted maximum impact should have waited another month. Make sure it just doesn't become another o well he's a criminal. What else is new.
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Where did KFdisciple, Hexumhawk, Big Hawk D-port, etc. all go?
Don’t worry you can’t get rid of me that easy…Where did KFdisciple, Hexumhawk, Big Hawk D-port, etc. all go?
Really? timing is your concern? Trump is doing unethical/criminal activity 24/7, his entire life but timing is your concern. WTF.
If they waited until after the election. Then it would be about ruining Thanksgiving/XMAS/New Years.
If the administration has sent the FBI to manufacture an issue for the election, when its just a matter of Trump wanting to keep his Kim Jong Un love letters, then that is a huge, unprecedented abuse of power.
If Trump has blackmail on Macron (for example) that he intends to sell or leverage, then yeah he is going to get locked up. It's pretty messed up either way.
