I love you man and still support you but you lost this game. This is a veteran team but they don't play like a veteran team for a full 40 mins. That last minute and a half was just ugly ugly basketball from then until the final second this team had no idea what to do and looked like a scrub team out there. You have to reorganize these guys when they start to come unglued. That said Go Hawks! On to the next one.
Just call the TO Fran
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We had a single time out to use the final two minutes. I think we all need to review the new rule changes because the number and use of time outs has changed. I was not sure if the coach could call it under some of the scenarios we had in the final 2 minutes? Did our players need to call it?
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...-16-including-30-second-shot-clock-fewer-outs
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...-16-including-30-second-shot-clock-fewer-outs
I think u r on to something based on this quote from Fran:
“Then we turned it over twice against the press with a timeout left. So that one is disappointing because I can’t call it anymore. I wanted a timeout. I thought Clemmons or Jarrod would have done it.”
http://www.thegazette.com/subject/sports/isu-storms-past-iowa-20151210
Well I am just wondeting that coach is getting killed for the timeout and it's possible he could not call it. That would be classic if posters did not even know about the rule changes.
That is when you quickly throw another player into the game to call timeout!?! I am still banging my head against the wall.
How does a coach not coach his players to look at him? Fran should have been on the scorers table jumping up & down for a timeout, at the least. Argh
C'mon Fran. I know you can't call the TO but get your players' attention to call one. You can't yell at the players, 'CALL A TIME OUT!'?
*Edit: If Fran screams Time Out at the top of his lungs, is that against the rules? If it is they need to have a codeword that means call a timeout.
The fact of the matter is our two guys taking the ball out are both seniors. You have to have it in your mind to count to 3 and then call TO. If haven't gotten in by 3 you need to call TO.
I'm not sure it would have been smart to call a timeout after Morris' basket with 8.9 left. I was thinking at the time that I hoped Iowa would do so.
Cyclones were out of timeouts. It made a lot of sense to bring the ball down and try to score instead of giving ISU a chance to set up a defense......especially considering how poorly the Hawks were handling in-bounds plays after timeouts. They had just turned it over twice in a row. Uthoff's shot could easily have gone in.
Cyclones were out of timeouts. It made a lot of sense to bring the ball down and try to score instead of giving ISU a chance to set up a defense......especially considering how poorly the Hawks were handling in-bounds plays after timeouts. They had just turned it over twice in a row. Uthoff's shot could easily have gone in.
Fran is a master mind when it comes to Out of Bounds plays. I kind of wished they would of pushed it up the floor to half court and then call the TO. That way your on your half of the court and you have about 3-4 seconds left and the entire area to run.
Utoff's shot was a long one, wish Gessell would of just taken it to the rim and tried getting fouled. Hindsight is always 20/20 after a game. Just wish I could see Iowa finish a game. They always seem to choke in big games and this senior class unfortunately has been apart of a lot of close losses over the years.
I am hoping Fran can find a player who can start to take over games down the stretch. It seems like Iowa plays good basketball for about 38 minutes and then the last 2 are always an adventure. If Iowa isn't winning by 10+ late, they seem to choke the game away. Teams have learned to play physical with Iowa down the stretch (MSU & BIG 10) will do it as well. Iowa has to get tougher.
Should have used the timeout after the first debacle trying to inbound the ball. Call the timeout, get some f****** composure and draw something up that can get the ball inbounds. Instead it was another debacle on the inbounds. I just cant believe a team/coach with this much experience lost a game like this AGAIN
We have 3 seniors on the court. Junior High players know to call timeout if you struggle inbounding the ball. Bottom line is Iowa State was fouling on purpose but the refs wouldn't call it. That made it difficult to get the pass in. Woody got hammered the possession before.
Maybe he did, but WTF was Clemmons doing throwing a 2 foot bounce pass to a 7 footers knees underneath the opponents hoop. I just can't believe the the things this group still does as seniors
ISU wasn't fouling on purpose, but the fact they had fouls to give allowed them to be very aggressive and not worry if a foul or two was called -- which DID happen at least once. I know Morris was tagged.
I was amazed at how many fouls ISU had to give at the end, I think it was 4. I'm sure Fran wanted to save the TO for the inbound play in case Utoff or Clemmons couldn't get it in. Problem was, the players didn't use the TO. Just poor composure on the players part. Hard to believe the seniors weren't more alert.
gotta admit the whole game was simply amazing to watch. From Uthoff/Iowa's run in the first half to the ISU comeback/Iowa meltdown at the end. There was both high and low level play from both teams.
The not calling a TO thing at the end was a total headscratcher, though. Almost every coach in the country has 10 or 15 plays in their bag of tricks that can get an open shot against almost anybody. While ISU did have one more foul to give before the bonus, they almost assuredly wouldn't have risked taking one against a driving Iowa player with only a 1 point lead. Felt like Iowa should've gotten a better look than a 3 when down by only 1 with that much time on the clock. I mean hell in the 1st half, Iowa got a great look to Uthoff on the block when they inbounded with less time on the playclock (off the down screen for Gesell).
The not calling a TO thing at the end was a total headscratcher, though. Almost every coach in the country has 10 or 15 plays in their bag of tricks that can get an open shot against almost anybody. While ISU did have one more foul to give before the bonus, they almost assuredly wouldn't have risked taking one against a driving Iowa player with only a 1 point lead. Felt like Iowa should've gotten a better look than a 3 when down by only 1 with that much time on the clock. I mean hell in the 1st half, Iowa got a great look to Uthoff on the block when they inbounded with less time on the playclock (off the down screen for Gesell).
I will say Prohm used his timeouts well in the 2nd half. The ISU players tend to play wild and after every Prohm TO they came out running an offense and defense that cut into the lead. He would call a TO again after they started getting wild and the team would come out and look like a top 5 team. Prohm looks like a lot better in game coach then the mayor. I was hoping Iowa would start closing the distance with Iowa St after the Prohm hire but he has proved to be a good coach and still has the recruits coming in. ISU will likely be better next year as well.
Good points. While I don't think Fran is a good game coach, the one area he is truly excellent is out of bounds play after TO's. Iowa got a bucket last night on such a play and it was so well designed the announcers commented on it and gave Fran credit..
That was bewildering. A major wtf. Why didn't they call the TO when they couldn't get the ball in bounds, instead of taking a 5 second call? They are seniors who you think would have enough experience/savvy to freelance at the end of ball games, but they've shown us time and again they are incapable of doing this well. Therefore, incumbent upon the coach to take over and set up a play. Oh, and what is Woody doing in the game when they are pressing? And why were 5 Iowa players bunched on the ISU side of the court? You never want to do that as you bring in more defenders in a tighter space.
McCaffery said after the game that he AND the players knew they had one timeout and he was surprised (I assume) Uthoff didn't use it when he was having trouble inbounding the ball. He even said, "What good does it do us now?"
It's not just McCaffery's fault.....he has 3 other coaches on his beach that have daily contact with the Iowa players. That's what is so disturbing about these last minute meltdowns in games that Iowa has had in hand or could have won. For all of McCaffery's good qualities one of them isn't game management....watching Fran on the side line, arms folded across his chest with a look of bewilderment while Gessel brought the ball up the court in Iowa's last position was a cosmic example of a coach that has no idea what to do in that situation considering it occurs over and over again. I love Fran and how he's made Iowa relevant again, but until he upgrades his coaching staff or gives his assistance's the opportunity to help him in end of game situations, Iowa will continue to lose these type of games. losing these games has been far too frequent during Fran's time here at Iowa....and I don't see it changing anytime soon....
it does
The coach can call timeout after a shot is made and before the ball is grabbed to be inbounded. I don't think a coach can call a timeout after the ball is in the hands of the player and the 5 second count has started, that's already "in play" according to the rule.
at least I think
Okay, that's kind of what I thought too. But didn't know for sure what constitutes 'live play'. Part of me also was thinking that the clock may have to be running for it to be considered 'live play'.
Officials didn't call many fouls on either team Thursday night. Hawks weren't whistled for a defensive foul until 4:20 remained in the first half.
Agree that I do not think the officiating was poor at all. In fact it was one of the more fairly officiated games I have witnessed at Hilton which was nice. I also agree that we got a few more fouls the first half our way but it was not off the charts by any means.
My buddy texted me at half and said look out as we will not see many whistles in the second half. He was right but I thought it was officiated pretty fairly. The unfortunate part for us is up 8 when Jok got the rebound and was fouled immediately with about 2 mins to go that was team foul 4. So it was 9-3 at that point in terms of whistles. The unlucky part is had it been in the bonus Jok would have gone to the line with a chance to extend the lead. Instead ISU fouled again for number 5. This started the whole inbound fiasco on our part and opportunistic D on ISU's part. Just unlucky in the sense that we did not get the chance to extend the lead at the line at that point. A couple of makes might have ended it.
The only thing I would like to see again on replay is Thomas's continued use of hands on Utoff trying to post. I thought some of those could have been whistled under the new freedom of movement rules but hats off to him for doing it just enough to slow Jared.
I thought ISU was allowed to get a little handsy in the second half, especially with our guys in the lane, but we should have never allowed ourselves to be in position to lose that game. Just one more basket or stop would have been all it took for us to walk out of that zoo triumphant.
But when a team is scrambling in defense to come back from 20 down, they tend to commit more than 3 fouls. I'm not blaming the loss on the officials, but that was unusual.
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