Karen mad that CVS employee called police on two black shoplifters.
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The criminal justice system discriminates against black people, so remember - when you see a black person commit a crime and phone the police, you are a racist. The logic is inescapable.
Holy f’ing shit. My head hurts listening to this shit.
She sounds pleasant.
Still doesn't change the fact that people of color or disproportionately and systemically mistreated in our criminal justice and law enforcement systems.
Still doesn't change the fact that people of color or disproportionately and systemically mistreated in our criminal justice and law enforcement systems.
No, but not sure why she has to harass a guy who simply asked they be trespassed from the property.
Imagine actually believing you should intervene in this situation....ugh, I am so glad I am not facebook friends with this social justice warrior. I bet she is insufferable.
Apparently this wasn’t one of those times. Shoplifting raises the price of goods for everyone except the thief.
That didn’t happen here. Also, doesn’t change the fact that people of color commit a disproportionate amount of violent crimes, usually against each other. Everyone can go around and around on this, we all should just commit to not commit any crimes and there wouldn’t be opportunities for bad things to happen to any person.
Oh, she even mentions that he makes, "What, 30 thousand dollars?"
Hmm, sounds like some of the self-important assholes on HROT who like to denigrate people based on income and vocation. That store manager really should've been anti-racist in this situation. Just let people steal. Never call the cops on Black folx who've committed a crime. That's equity.
Hmm, sounds like some of the self-important assholes on HROT who like to denigrate people based on income and vocation. That store manager really should've been anti-racist in this situation. Just let people steal. Never call the cops on Black folx who've committed a crime. That's equity.
She's an idiot. I can recognize one because so many post here.
That doesn't warrant unfair treatment by the justice system however.
Our treatment by the justice system should be based upon what we ourselves as individuals do. . . not what people who might be of the same race or gender do.
And lets not forget that this is sort of a chicken and the egg problem here too. You would probably see a lot better results in black kids if the system wasn't busy locking up their parents for small things like smoking weed while managing to completely ignore these "youthful indiscretions" when it's a white person doing it.
A lot of factors of systemic racism have added up over the decades that have caused many African Americans to be stuck in generational poverty.
And lets not forget that you don't just go from Emmett Till to fully equal in this country in one lifetime. Emmett Till happened in my parent's lifetime, and my parents are still alive. To think that black people we're going to go from a 14 year old kid being brutally murdered for looking at a white lady wrong and having the white community condone this murder via jury nullification to being completely socially and economically equal to white people in one lifetime is completely and utterly ridiculous.
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These days hardly anyone gets locked up for smoking weed.
No chicken and the egg here. The crime came before the time. Stop committing illegal transgressions, simple as that, but many don’t like to address it because it doesn’t fit the narrative.
She is so wrong.
I am glad the dumbest people on our side are out filming interactions at CVS and not running the country.
I am glad the dumbest people on our side are out filming interactions at CVS and not running the country.
This lady is an idiot. I miss the days we could pretend people like this didn’t exist.
That said, everybody knows that we don’t need to address our woefully inadequate criminal justice system or institutional racism. Instead, blame it on personal responsibility. If people stop committing crime, the system wouldn’t be needed, at all. Never mind that it has never happened in human history. Myopia is how we deal with institutional racism and an overly punitive and substandard CJ system.
That said, everybody knows that we don’t need to address our woefully inadequate criminal justice system or institutional racism. Instead, blame it on personal responsibility. If people stop committing crime, the system wouldn’t be needed, at all. Never mind that it has never happened in human history. Myopia is how we deal with institutional racism and an overly punitive and substandard CJ system.
I'm talking socially widespread. Systemic racism causes factors which increase crime in black communities and this has been going on pretty much since slavery ended.
Is this intended to repudiate the fact that the police too often get calls by a concerned citizen reporting someone in the neighborhood walking while black?
Perhaps this latest "Karen" is just nuts and it's best just to leave it at that?
I agree.
Also, I think that manager handled it about as well as you could in that situation.
This is why the media needs to do a better job pointing out the statistical reality of police violence as directed towards blacks. (not that it matters because it sells) If you've got Karens feeling this way, imagine the anxiety black folk feel unnecessarily.
My post has nothing to do with phoning the police to report a black person not committing a crime. You're reading a lot into my sarcastic post.
Well, when they commit a disproportionate number of crimes, yeah, they're going to get arrested in disproportionate numbers. Capiche? Otherwise, its favoritism, which is also a form of racism.
So crimes are fine as long as you can say it’s due to racism? How does this so called systemic racism increase crime? Are people forced to commit crimes?
Black people are 4x as likely to be arrested for marijuana possession than white people despite using it at the same rate.
Black people are 4x as likely to have their vehicles searched than white people, despite being less likely to be carrying illegal contraband.
There are dozens of other statistics I could cite to further this point. If you refuse to acknowledge that there are systemic inequities in the criminal justice system, it is only because you have your head lodged too far up your rectum to see them.
They also commit higher rates of violent crime, usually against each other. Is that racist, too? Studies suggest it’s more about poverty than race. Is there racism in the criminal justice system, sure it’s everywhere, but not as prevalent as many want you to believe. I go back to be responsible and accountable, stop committing crimes.
It’s really not that hard to figure out. Poverty and crime are very highly correlated. Surely you know that for hundreds of years, Black people were not afforded the same educational and employment opportunities as white people. They were also discriminated against in housing and essentially excluded from living in white neighborhoods. This stuff was still going on when your parents were still alive - so it’s not like this is ancient history. So for generations, you have neighborhoods full of black people living in poverty, which of course leads to an increase in crime.
What do you think happens when there are neighborhoods with an increase in crime? Obviously, the police spend even more resources in policing those areas, which leads to finding even MORE crime - so police keep sending additional resources to patrol those areas. This leads to over policing - now when people in these areas commit even petty crimes like marijuana possession or shoplifting, they are much more likely to be caught than people in wealthier, predominantly white neighborhoods. This causes police to begin stereotyping black people - they are finding more crime in black neighborhoods (in part because they are looking harder in black neighborhoods), so police become more likely to suspect black people of committing crimes.
Of course, this also causes black children to be more likely to grow up in single parent households, which is also highly correlated to crime and poverty. And that isn’t even mentioning that most funding for public schools comes from property taxes, so schools in these neighborhoods are woefully short on funding. Lack of educational opportunity is also highly correlated with poverty and crime.
Then, we have statistics showing us that black people (men in particular) are more likely to be convicted, and more likely to be sentenced to harsher punishments than white people, for committing the same crime - even when you account for prior convictions and other extenuating circumstances.
LOL at thinking all this goes away if black people just start taking more “personal responsibility.” As someone in this thread pointed out, this is hundreds of years of systemically oppressing black people. The deck is stacked against many black people to succeed. It doesn’t mean they can’t, it just makes it way, way more difficult.
Totally agree on the handling of the situation by the manager. He nailed it.
CVS should "dox" the self absorbed b**** with the camera.
There are limitations to those statistics, because, other than officer involved shootings, police don’t exactly report excessive force. Often, instead, the police suppress it, as they did with Daniel Prude.
Excessive force isn't as clear cut. I've seen studies say black/latino receive 25% more of that, or something there about.
I was mostly banging on the loss of life angle. Which is what you often see referenced.
Again, is there no personal accountability and responsibility? Prior racist policies make today’s crimes okay? There are many instances of blacks people succeeding in life despite where they started, maybe they should look up to them instead. You can’t keep using prior policies that no longer exist to condone crime, at some point people need to realize they make their own choices. That includes all people including non-blacks who also start in a tough spot.
Of course there is some aspect of personal accountability and responsibility. Literally no one is disputing that. And no one is “condoning crime.” I’m just not dumb enough to think that hundreds of years of systemic injustices is going to magically disappear by black people taking more “personal accountability and responsibility.” A widespread overhaul is needed - police reform, education reform, prison reform, housing reform, etc. is desperately needed.
Kids that don't have parents tend to be much more likely to run into trouble with the law.
Poor kids tend to be much more likely to get in trouble with the law.
Systemic racism creates these conditions and than racists chaulk it up to race.
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