Karen mad that CVS employee called police on two black shoplifters.

[The Tradition]

Of course there is some aspect of personal accountability and responsibility. Literally no one is disputing that. And no one is “condoning crime.” I’m just not dumb enough to think that hundreds of years of systemic injustices is going to magically disappear by black people taking more “personal accountability and responsibility.” A widespread overhaul is needed - police reform, education reform, prison reform, housing reform, etc. is desperately needed.

We employ hundreds of very successful black people. Dozens are in senior-leadership positions. Just stop.

 

[IAHawk2011]

We employ hundreds of very successful black people. Dozens are in senior-leadership positions. Just stop.

Oh, I didn’t realize that. I guess racism no longer exists then. Hooray!!!

 

[The Tradition]

Oh, I didn’t realize that. I guess racism no longer exists then. Hooray!!!

There really isn't a barrier for anyone who works hard and makes the right choices in life.

 

[JupiterHawk]

OMG her voice...

Me in 2019

Me in 2020

 

[Gonolz]

Apparently this wasn’t one of those times. Shoplifting raises the price of goods for everyone except the thief.

That's what I like about shoplifting, prices go higher, my price stays the same.

 

[MepoDawg#]

Kids that don't have parents tend to be much more likely to run into trouble with the law.

Poor kids tend to be much more likely to get in trouble with the law.

Systemic racism creates these conditions and than racists chaulk it up to race.

Why? It’s still free choice. Who is preventing them from becoming a better person than their parent? There are plenty of people who start at the bottom and work/earn their way up. It can be done, many just choose not to. Doesn’t mean we need to keep saying it’s racist because they freely choose to be a criminal.

 

[H4wkfan4life]

Crazy times

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Dumbass bitch, go off yourself!

Hope they banned her for life

 

[H4wkfan4life]

It’s really not that hard to figure out. Poverty and crime are very highly correlated. Surely you know that for hundreds of years, Black people were not afforded the same educational and employment opportunities as white people. They were also discriminated against in housing and essentially excluded from living in white neighborhoods. This stuff was still going on when your parents were still alive - so it’s not like this is ancient history. So for generations, you have neighborhoods full of black people living in poverty, which of course leads to an increase in crime.

What do you think happens when there are neighborhoods with an increase in crime? Obviously, the police spend even more resources in policing those areas, which leads to finding even MORE crime - so police keep sending additional resources to patrol those areas. This leads to over policing - now when people in these areas commit even petty crimes like marijuana possession or shoplifting, they are much more likely to be caught than people in wealthier, predominantly white neighborhoods. This causes police to begin stereotyping black people - they are finding more crime in black neighborhoods (in part because they are looking harder in black neighborhoods), so police become more likely to suspect black people of committing crimes.

Of course, this also causes black children to be more likely to grow up in single parent households, which is also highly correlated to crime and poverty. And that isn’t even mentioning that most funding for public schools comes from property taxes, so schools in these neighborhoods are woefully short on funding. Lack of educational opportunity is also highly correlated with poverty and crime.

Then, we have statistics showing us that black people (men in particular) are more likely to be convicted, and more likely to be sentenced to harsher punishments than white people, for committing the same crime - even when you account for prior convictions and other extenuating circumstances.

LOL at thinking all this goes away if black people just start taking more “personal responsibility.” As someone in this thread pointed out, this is hundreds of years of systemically oppressing black people. The deck is stacked against many black people to succeed. It doesn’t mean they can’t, it just makes it way, way more difficult.

Lol at thinking black people aren't capable of changing their living situation.

 

[H4wkfan4life]

Oh, I didn’t realize that. I guess racism no longer exists then. Hooray!!!

Derp


There are probably as many racist blacks as whites in America %wise. Fyi

 

[haw-key]

Totally agree on the handling of the situation by the manager. He nailed it.

CVS should "dox" the self absorbed b**** with the camera.

He needs a promotion. His excellent handling of this ought to get him kudos from the company. Hopefully publicly.

 

[Hawkeye_311]

CVS dude needs a raise. Pure Ice water in the veins.

 

[IAHawk2011]

Lol at thinking black people aren't capable of changing their living situation.

I’ll take “things no one said” for $800, Alex.

 

[Hawgk]

Oh darn it! This past week two black shoplifters walked into a lumberyard I frequent and walked out with something that sounded like “urbrafurabut, did they steal something?” over the walkie talkie and the black store owner let them walk. “Unbelievable” is all he said.

There has never been a more forgiving time in the United States history to be a black man on a crime spree.

 

[H4wkfan4life]

I’ll take “things no one said” for $800, Alex.

How about things that were pretty well implied for 1,000 Alex?

 

[Hawgk]

How about things that were pretty well implied for 1,000 Alex?

What does “pretty well implied” mean?

 

[Fluffles]

According to conservatives, all these complex social problems stemming from centuries of slavery and oppression can be reduced to fatherless homes, poor life choices, and indolence. Everything, essentially, boils down to the boot strap and nuclear family theory of delinquency circa 1950. Life must be awfully simple and clean being this myopic. Maybe, try leaving the state for some perspective, or, perhaps, read a history book.

 

[Franisdaman]

Apparently this wasn’t one of those times. Shoplifting raises the price of goods for everyone except the thief.

HEY!!! You need to shut up & listen.

At least that is what I have been told.

 

[H4wkfan4life]

What does “pretty well implied” mean?

only for those mentally capable of drawing conclusions. Clearly you're not in that category.

 

[BubsFinn]

She sounds pleasant.

Still doesn't change the fact that people of color or disproportionately and systemically mistreated in our criminal justice and law enforcement systems.

All the more reason for them to not commit crimes. If you know you’re going to be screwed by the system, do everything in your power to avoid going into the system. Shoplifting a CVS is counter productive.