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KCJJ had a caller this morning suggesting PJ Fleck, Head Chief of Western Michigan, should be the Head Chief in Iowa City.

Fleck is in his 4th year as Head Coach:
Western Michigan Broncos (Mid-American Conference) (2013–present)
2013 Western Michigan 1–11 1–7 T–5th (West)
2014 Western Michigan 8–5 6–2 3rd (West) L Famous Idaho Potato
2015 Western Michigan 8–5 6–2 T–1st (West) W Bahamas
2016 Western Michigan 1–0 0–0

personally, I hope Kirk Ferentz is the Head Coach for the next 30 years... but I'm curious if others might agree that Fleck should be our coach... or perhaps somebody else?
 
I think it will be a few years before this is even a discussion, and the coaching landscape/availability will be dramatically different. See: Bielema, Brett.
 
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I personally don't thing KF will coach until he is 71. I think some of the back years on the contract are to help with recruiting issues.

And with the extension, the earliest there could be a change at the top in Iowa City would be 2021 or 2022. Fleck will be at a bigger program by then.
 
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Toward the tail end of our down year, I considered Fleck a sleeper candidate if a move did get made. He's done a solid job pulling in a few talented kids to a MAC program, so I'd be curious to see what he could do with a Power 5 program's resources. He's energetic, young, and has shown reasonable success given what he inherited. Certainly worth a shot for a program looking for a direction change if you're not luring a top option. Plus you could probably sign him at a bargain price.
 
Assuming you mean after Iowa reached out to John Gruden, Bielema, B and M Stoops, Tom Herman, and Todd Bowles and they turned down the job. Then yes I could see Fleck.
 
Perhaps reading too much into your post, but I never said that I wanted to make the move. I said that he would be a sleeper candidate IF a move was made. Then I explained my reasoning...

If not meant as a dig at my contribution, then ignore this response.
 
HeRKeYHoPeFuL said:
Perhaps reading too much into your post, but I never said that I wanted to make the move. I said that he would be a sleeper candidate IF a move was made. Then I explained my reasoning...

If not meant as a dig at my contribution, then ignore this response.
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no no... I always try to be respectful.. not everybody agrees on all things..
I thought the call was interesting and perhaps others share similar opinions..

but as I stated above, I don't agree with the idea... but that doesn't mean I hate everybody who disagrees with me.
~thanks
 
Fleck is more than a bit "gimmicky" ... but he'll become an excellent P5 coach sometime down the road. He's definitely a great motivator to his players, he's also very much a players coach, and he's also pretty decent on the strategy side of things too.

Whether he'd be an eventual "fit" at Iowa ... that is the bigger question. I don't know. Looking down that road ... I'd look for Brian to eventually become a coordinator (presumably OC). If there is any "passing down" of the program ... and the AD signs off on it ... my guess is that it would most likely go to Phil Parker (unless he doesn't want the heat that goes with being the head coach). Massive credit goes to Kirk for doing such a good job of shielding his coordinators and position coaches from "outside stuff."
 
Too far in the future to predict. Jerry Montgomery? Kerry Cooks maybe? I somehow don't think it will be BF, but he may very well be a HC in the future. Possibly in the NFL.
 
scotthawk1964 said:
I think Iowa's next coach will be someone with Hawkeye ties. Brian Ferentz?
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I honestly don't get this sentiment and don't give a rats ass if our next coach has Iowa ties. Hayden didn't and Forest played at Michigan and coached at MSU before coming to IC. Yes he played on Iowa preflight but essentially he was a Michigan guy.

Two of our best were outsiders and I hope when the time comes we don't limit ourselves to someone with Iowa ties. If it so happens the best candidate does, well and good. But please lets cast a very wide net on the next search.
 
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JRHawk2003 said:
Too far in the future to predict. Jerry Montgomery? Kerry Cooks maybe? I somehow don't think it will be BF, but he may very well be a HC in the future. Possibly in the NFL.
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If Kerry Cooks continues his success, I'd like to see him get a shot
 
Fleck will have a P5 job by the time Ferentz retires.

And while I agree that Iowa shouldn't limit that eventual search to solely Iowa guys, it does have to be a guy who understands and knows how to thrive under the limitations the Iowa job has...which are geographical/population in nature. It's hard to continuously win at Iowa, as history has borne out. Not impossible, but much more difficult than most P5 jobs.

If it was easy here, Iowa would always be good.
 
God forbid the next Head Chief at Iowa implements a Spread em out Pass happy No huddle and Hurry up and give the ball to the other team type of Offense as well as a 3-4 Defense...

its one thing to consider... by changing the guard, you might get an entirely different system.

personally, I love our style of Offense and Defense... its Sound and it is Balanced.
if Kirk coaches til he's 90 or 95... I might not have to worry about who the next Head Coach will be.

a greater concern might be who replaces Gary Dolphin.
 
tomhawk80907 said:
I honestly don't get this sentiment and don't give a rats ass if our next coach has Iowa ties. Hayden didn't and Forest played at Michigan and coached at MSU before coming to IC. Yes he played on Iowa preflight but essentially he was a Michigan guy.

Two of our best were outsiders and I hope when the time comes we don't limit ourselves to someone with Iowa ties. If it so happens the best candidate does, well and good. But please lets cast a very wide net on the next search.
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I really hope the next coach has Iowa ties. I don't actually care, but that likely means things have been going well. When everything goes down in flames, then you look for something different. If Brian(or some other Hayden/Ferentz guy) is the next head coach, that means the next 5-10 years would have gone well.
 
nu2u said:
Purdue or Minnesota.
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Minny's new AD was a classmate/teammate of NDSU's Chris Klieman for a year or two at Columbus high in Waterloo...If CK can continue to maintain the Bison program at or near a championship level...I'd expect him to be in the mix to replace Claeys in a couple of years.
 
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I'm on board with the next coach having Iowa ties as a former player or assistant, assuming they've built up a solid resume elsewhere since leaving Iowa City. But, I don't agree with Brian being groomed to take over. Nepotism rubs me the wrong way. If BF leaves and has a good run as an O coordinator elsewhere then look at him as a candidate in a few years.
 
Birky said:
I really hope the next coach has Iowa ties. I don't actually care, but that likely means things have been going well. When everything goes down in flames, then you look for something different. If Brian(or some other Hayden/Ferentz guy) is the next head coach, that means the next 5-10 years would have gone well.
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I just hope there isn't a brand new AD looking to put his stamp on something and brings in a RichRod type when that time comes.
 
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nu2u said:
Purdue or Minnesota.
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You laugh but Bill King was talking about Fleck on his radio show the other morning. He said his ideal landing spot will be a P5 school, somewhat Midwestern based, not a bad job but not too high profile either, finally there has to be an opening. Purdue was one of the first schools out of his mouth.
 
SDHawkDoc said:
I'm on board with the next coach having Iowa ties as a former player or assistant, assuming they've built up a solid resume elsewhere since leaving Iowa City. But, I don't agree with Brian being groomed to take over. Nepotism rubs me the wrong way. If BF leaves and has a good run as an O coordinator elsewhere then look at him as a candidate in a few years.
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He started his coaching career in the NFL. He didn't start at Iowa. He chose to come back to Iowa. He very well could have continued to make a name for himself in the NFL.
 
Sat in front of a Western Michigan grad in Kinnick on Saturday. He suggested that Fleck is a pretty crappy human being.
 
whatsup13579er said:
He started his coaching career in the NFL. He didn't start at Iowa. He chose to come back to Iowa. He very well could have continued to make a name for himself in the NFL.
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A short time as a low level assistant isn't enough. I'm suggesting demonstrating performance at a higher level, such as O coordinator, at another power 5 school. Show that he is capable of what it would take at a high level, independent of his family ties.
 
My son worked at the Marriott in C'ville when the Bronco's came to town in 2012 or 2013. Fleck was a first year coach I believe. My son (along with all Marriott employees) was instructed that whenever they saw a player or coach from WM they were supposed to say something stupid like, "it's a great day to be a Bronco!".

Obviously a little fuzzy on the facts, but whatever it was it sealed his fate in my mind as a dick.
 
Fleck has a reputation of pressuring kids into commitments. Doesn't prioritize the family at all. That definitely wouldn't fly here.
 
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