When I was in college , tuition rose along with the increase in available student aid. Much of a "College Education" is a racket run by the schools.
With talk of a free education there should be talk of school accountability.
Keith Duncan's parents have taken on $115k debt
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When I was in college , tuition rose along with the increase in available student aid. Much of a "College Education" is a racket run by the schools.
With talk of a free education there should be talk of school accountability.
Many schools with hundreds of millions of dollars, some more than a billion dollars in endowments.
What is this money used for exactly?
What is this money used for exactly?
Dependent people?
Like corporate welfare? Subsidies for unsustainable farming or animal operations? For the colossally wasteful and destructive war industry that consumes half the federal budget, more money spent on military than all other major developed countries combined? Corporations that not only pay zero taxes, but benefit from government programs like food stamps and Medicare so that they can pay workers poverty wages, like WalMart, or run workers into the ground like Amazon? I could go on.
Insanity. Criminal behavior.
And we want to blame poor people?
Why not blame the people and policies and systems that make people poor and keep them poor?
Education and health care made accessible ALLOWS people to be independent. Independent thinkers. Independent citizens. Social entrepreneurs who solve problems and add value rather than merely make a buck with some level of manipulation or unsustainable practice.
Open your eyes. This system has us all so deluded, blaming each other, cutting corners everywhere, getting shafted by others.
The whole system is built on manipulation. The whole shame is unsustainable by any definition of he term.
And it’s collapsing, along with our democracy and the entire ecosystem.
Wake up.
We can either come together to see reality as it is and solve problems, or we can grab what we can, Prepper like, and grill out while Rome burns, enjoying the seemingly free heat and laughing at the destruction, all as our fat amoral orange Nero fiddles.
Wake up. See what’s happening. See what obviously isn’t working.
We are better than all that.
Most every innovation in any area - medicine, tech, business, arts - happens at a college or university or with some involvement or tech transfer or consultation with university researchers, etc.
Every government dollar invested in higher ed has huge ROI.
Funding should come from government, not tuition. It’s an investment in people, economy, and democracy. And our future.
This (highlighted) may be true, but probably only 10-20% of degrees are tech related. Women studies, black studies, sociology degrees, english degrees, etc, etc, etc will and should never yield high paying jobs. But students can still get loans for these the same as a computer and engineering degrees.
I hope you didn't throw out your shoulder with all the reaches, or sprain an ankle with the leaps in logic. There's some truth and fair points up there, but a whole lot of bad analogies, flawed logic and false premises as well.
I’m sure there’s an official website somewhere, but a quick Google search provided this wiki page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_colleges_and_universities_in_the_United_States_by_endowment
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It's often a state by state thing. The state of Iowa has reduced its college funding and support while other states have increased funding, many now offering free tuition. Those schools have seen their rankings improve as they draw better students enticed by the better value.
It doesn't say what the endowments are for. Iowa is not on the list of Endowments per Student so more than likely the endowments are targeted for research. I would think that Iowa's medical research programs get a huge majority of the bucks - I don't think funding for those can be diverted for athletic scholarships
Not sure about that, since AAU members earn the majority of competitively awarded federal funding for academic research. I'm sure there are private grants awarded too, but I doubt it's anywhere near the federal funding.It doesn't say what the endowments are for. Iowa is not on the list of Endowments per Student so more than likely the endowments are targeted for research. I would think that Iowa's medical research programs get a huge majority of the bucks - I don't think funding for those can be diverted for athletic scholarships
I'm just asking why some of that endowment at each university can't go to help off-set tuition for their students post graduation. If nothing else, it should be used to curb the insatiable rate of tuition increases that's been prevalent the past 25 years.
All states have reduced their funding for higher education dramatically.
You are confusing public education with private colleges. The few that have touted free tuition are privates
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You are right about private colleges providing tuition (from huge endowments). But not all states are reducing their funding, not even close. https://www.forbes.com/sites/michae...higher-education-funding-by-3-7/#32c0166f70c9. And judging by the company Iowa is keeping in reducing its funding (Miss, West Va., Kentucky, etc.), I would be a little worried about where things are headed. Alabama of all places has really raised its game and is giving serious dough to draw out-of-state students, and it's really improved their profile. ct-met-illinois-students-brain-drain-20180405-story.html
Spoken like a politician, I thought this was a Hawkeye thread. Go talk your doomsday speech on some other site , please!! I feel for Duncan’s parents, however I have two children in college currently and face bills also. I believe Duncan’s parents knew the cost of college before he enrolled. I know I did. Go Hawks !!!
Iowa is following the Kansas-Oklahoma-Arkansas model. Non funding, privatization of education, health, and many other governmental functions is leading to higher costs and fewer services. Lots of problems stemming from this trend.
This only shows how well college scholarship athletes are paid.
If you want to feel bad for Walkons that’s fine but this is far from the sweeping indictment you think it is. It’s quite the opposite.
It’ll get him looks from NFL teams. And there’s no way I’m donating money to his parents.
I'm still scratching my head at how a kid can be good enough to start, but not good enough for a scholarship.
T's & P's to his parents for being the only Parents in history to help pay for their kids college.
Alabama is offering full rides to highly qualified students. Illinois has a ton of high achieving students, many of which can't get into U of Illinois. Alabama doesn't have the highly qualified students in-state, and is offering scholarships to many of them from out-of-state in an attempt to increase their test scores and other measures.
But, overall, U of Alabama is no cheaper than their peers.
Their annual total cost of attendance is ~$30k for in-state and ~$50k for out-of-state.
https://financialaid.ua.edu/cost/
I had a discussion recently with our COO at work in Houston. His nephew Crews Holt(Crews is the COO middle name) was the kicker for MTSU. As you might remember Holt kicked a field goal for their only score at Kinnick earlier this season. His nephew who was first team all state in TN had no scholarship offers from P5 schools. Only walkon opportunities. They elected to take the full ride from MTSU thereby saving a lot of money.
An institution’s endowment has almost nothing to do with enrollment size. It’s about who went to the school, how much money they made in life and how much they donate back to the university.
He is a good story....however he made that choice as did his parents.
And...they say that a football scholarship isnt worth anything.
And...they say that a football scholarship isnt worth anything.
Wrong. They teach you how to identify and solve problems. They teach you how to think.
Did you know that one of the most common majors of Silicon Valley CEOs is philosophy?
And other liberal arts majors can also be as or even more important than tech or biz degrees for biz leaders and social entrepreneurs. Because in many ways you can learn even more useful things: you learn how to learn, how to think out of the box, how to innovate.
Steve Jobs favorite and most influential class in his short time in college (liberal arts school, Reed College) was CALLIGRAPHY.
Watch his famous commencement address at Stanford. He tells that story.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...ders/2015/07/29/liberal-arts-degree-tech/amp/
https://bigthink.com/paul-ratner/why-silicon-valley-titans-learn-and-recommend-philosophy
Many more articles supporting my point.
How do people on this forum and elsewhere make unfactual and unsubstantiated claims, and believe them, is disheartening.
Our great orange leader is an expert at that and his minions follow his evil, manipulative, tyrannical example obviously.
Think. See the facts. Be responsible.
Got a link for that? Only one person in this list majored in philosophy.
https://www.businessinsider.com/college-degrees-and-majors-of-famous-tech-ceos
Welp, if no pro football after college, the Army still pays off loans too. In seriousness, you kinda know out of state tuition is gonna be high without a schollie. Ultimately on the parents. I am sure Kirk never promised a schollie by a certain point.
Right, what stops a booster from doing this really? Kind of like a "foundation" set up by ex-Presidents. That is time for collection for the favors.
Self inflicted - didn't have to walk on at an out-of-state school.
Well that’s nice of his parents to take on that debt for him. Took me a while to get mine all paid off
