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Do tell.Good luck to Kemdawg…will root for him where ever. A lot of reasons why this goes down but it still sucks. Great dude…going to miss him.
Do tell.
because this is getting infuriatingly repetitive.
This is infuriatingly repetitive? Please tell me who has left before? Ramos? He left because Dennis beat him and never made a team after. Gilman left because he was losing to Spencer. If Spencer was healthy/Covid didn’t happen Gilman may have never made another team.Do tell.
because this is getting infuriatingly repetitive.
Do tell.
because this is getting infuriatingly repetitive.
You know you can’t be critical here but you’re absolutely correct. We may as well not even have an RTC. It’s ridiculous. We have almost no HWC athletes competing anywhere and it’s been that way for a LONG time. Just watch the excuses that follow. Spencer should have said “excuses are for wusses…and the cesspool”Do tell.
because this is getting infuriatingly repetitive.
Pretty sure his fiance or long time girlfriend or wife or whatever lives on the east coast, probably where he sees himself long term. Definitely no bad blood between the Dawg and the Hawks.Nothing specific or inside info…could be many reasons. Wants to go back to the East Coast, leverage Cornell contacts for his future, try something different etc. He’s been here for 7 years.
So yea, it sucks but I know he has bigger plans beyond wrestling.
Who’s left to leave? I thought this was why they were purging the roster, to keep this group together? The best wrestler of this graduating class is going elsewhere. Furthermore, who’s coming onboard? Maybe I missed all the announcements of new blood coming in? Gilman left and became a world gold and Olympic bronze medalist. Spencer doesn’t even wrestle FS.This is infuriatingly repetitive? Please tell me who has left before? Ramos? He left because Dennis beat him and never made a team after. Gilman left because he was losing to Spencer. If Spencer was healthy/Covid didn’t happen Gilman may have never made another team.
Why would anyone be furious over this? That’s an odd reaction. You think every former Hawkeye is going to compete for the HWC? That’s not a realistic expectation. Just isn’t going to happen.
LOL, it was literally the reasoning they needed to clean house and fundraise like crazy to keep this senior class for the HWC. Now Marinelli is no longer competing and Kem is leaving. The club is now Pat Lugo and Victoria Francis. Neither of which will be threats to make a team going forward. Will it take Spencer Lee inevitably leaving for there to be a problem?Why would anyone be furious over this? That’s an odd reaction. You think every former Hawkeye is going to compete for the HWC? That’s not a realistic expectation. Just isn’t going to happen.
Who’s left to leave? I thought this was why they were purging the roster, to keep this group together? The best wrestler of this graduating class is going elsewhere.
We hired/paid Jeremiah Moody to be a HWC athlete. So yeah. I don't think it's too presumptive to say that keeping Kem should have been on the priority list.
He was never going to stay in Iowa City after graduation. Not everyone wants to be in the same college town for 10 years. He came to Iowa for COLLEGE. This has nothing to do with the HWC some guys just move on.
He was never going to stay in Iowa City after graduation. Not everyone wants to be in the same college town for 10 years. He came to Iowa for COLLEGE. This has nothing to do with the HWC some guys just move on.
Depth? In the HWC? Gotta have more than 2 dudes competing before we talk about depth.
As someone who was born in Iowa and moved away, there’s really no reason for me to go back except to see friends and family.I am not frustrated with him leaving. I am frustrated with the fact we have no one currently in the hwc at a world team level and no apparent interest from outsiders to come here.
This. But keep on fundraising.I am not frustrated with him leaving. I am frustrated with the fact we have no one currently in the hwc at a world team level and no apparent interest from outsiders to come here.
He’s must have like 4 degrees by now.Nothing specific or inside info…could be many reasons. Wants to go back to the East Coast, leverage Cornell contacts for his future, try something different etc. He’s been here for 7 years.
So yea, it sucks but I know he has bigger plans beyond wrestling.
So true . He visited a few places and Cornell ended up being the perfect fit. All his visits were back near home.The classic board clowns will continue to ignore this post.
Well Mr. Spooner, obviously not EVERY former Hawkeye is going to compete for HWC, but somehow the evil empire has David Taylor, Nevills, Berge, Mark Hall, Nick Lee, Nolf, Joseph and Retherford. Oh and former HWC member Thomas Gilman. Somehow, NLWC has found a way to get just about EVERY former Nittany Lion to compete for the NLWC. We’ve got Pat Lugo. Something is rotten in Denmark, if we can’t convince Grandpa Mike to stick around.Why would anyone be furious over this? That’s an odd reaction. You think every former Hawkeye is going to compete for the HWC? That’s not a realistic expectation. Just isn’t going to happen.
Well Mr. Spooner, obviously not EVERY former Hawkeye is going to compete for HWC, but somehow the evil empire has David Taylor, Nevills, Berge, Mark Hall, Nick Lee, Nolf, Joseph and Retherford. Oh and former HWC member Thomas Gilman. Somehow, NLWC has found a way to get just about EVERY former Nittany Lion to compete for the NLWC. We’ve got Pat Lugo. Something is rotten in Denmark, if we can’t convince Grandpa Mike to stick around.
Easy for you to say, sipping pina coladas on a So Cal beach with movie star friends watching the sun set on the ocean and not corn fields and hog confinements.Well Mr. Spooner, obviously not EVERY former Hawkeye is going to compete for HWC, but somehow the evil empire has David Taylor, Nevills, Berge, Mark Hall, Nick Lee, Nolf, Joseph and Retherford. Oh and former HWC member Thomas Gilman. Somehow, NLWC has found a way to get just about EVERY former Nittany Lion to compete for the NLWC. We’ve got Pat Lugo. Something is rotten in Denmark, if we can’t convince Grandpa Mike to stick around.
Mark Hall does not train with or compete for the NLWCWell Mr. Spooner, obviously not EVERY former Hawkeye is going to compete for HWC, but somehow the evil empire has David Taylor, Nevills, Berge, Mark Hall, Nick Lee, Nolf, Joseph and Retherford. Oh and former HWC member Thomas Gilman. Somehow, NLWC has found a way to get just about EVERY former Nittany Lion to compete for the NLWC. We’ve got Pat Lugo. Something is rotten in Denmark, if we can’t convince Grandpa Mike to stick around.
As someone who was born in Iowa and moved away, there’s really no reason for me to go back except to see friends and family.
While there is a strong wrestling community/presence in the state, many need more than that to have desired quality of life. And for some reason, it seems to be difficult for locals to understand how the system may be perceived by those on the outside looking in.
The big deal isn’t Kem choosing what’s best for him. Good for him. I hope he makes multiple world teams if he chooses to pursue that. The big deal is the fact that we have virtually no RTC at the moment. It’s great that you say we have the funding and all but it would be kinda neat if at some point that funding could provide for wrestlers to actually wrestle and compete for world teams. Crazy talk, I know.Good Lord, will you guys please stop with the "why were we fundraising" and "HWC couldn't afford to keep Kem around". This is far from the case. The funds are there, but he has chosen to live somewhere besides Iowa City and wants to keep competing. There will always be an open door for him if he decides to return to Iowa and his relationship with the coaches is great. It's all good, he's starting the next phase of his life closer to his girlfriend and family. Quit making a big deal out of nothing.
Well Mr. Spooner, obviously not EVERY former Hawkeye is going to compete for HWC, but somehow the evil empire has David Taylor, Nevills, Berge, Mark Hall, Nick Lee, Nolf, Joseph and Retherford. Oh and former HWC member Thomas Gilman. Somehow, NLWC has found a way to get just about EVERY former Nittany Lion to compete for the NLWC. We’ve got Pat Lugo. Something is rotten in Denmark, if we can’t convince Grandpa Mike to stick around.