Kentucky is talking about CJ again
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I would expect Keegan, Patrick and Toussaint to be the leading scorers at this point, depending on who comes in via transfer. Ironically I think we take a huge step forward defensively but obviously the offense takes a hit. Still think we’ll be fine though, fran has a pretty good system overall offensively.
This, Fran got an extension after having a team in the top15 all season long, and overall has the program back at the Tom Davis level now it feels like. Idk that I believe this is his ceiling or not, I’ve always believed that outside the elite programs success in the tourney depends so much on matchups and this year in particular had a lot of tough matchups for high seeds when you look at the first weekend in hindsight.
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The portal is chaos because the players are making their own decisions now. And most athletes aren't too bright!
So what you get is a portal filled with:
-Players thinking they are better than they really are. Most athletes!
-Players not happy with their coaches decisions. Most athletes!
-Players thinking the grass is always greener on the other side. Most athletes.
I think the portal also shows you the value that these players put on their education, which is "NO value at all". Even WITHOUT getting paid, they don't value their education so imagine their priorities if they are allowed to start making money! Everyone will transfer every year for a chance at an extra $1000!!!
So what you get is a portal filled with:
-Players thinking they are better than they really are. Most athletes!
-Players not happy with their coaches decisions. Most athletes!
-Players thinking the grass is always greener on the other side. Most athletes.
I think the portal also shows you the value that these players put on their education, which is "NO value at all". Even WITHOUT getting paid, they don't value their education so imagine their priorities if they are allowed to start making money! Everyone will transfer every year for a chance at an extra $1000!!!
Fine for me is making the tourney on a regular basis, say 4 years out of 5; depending on injuries or off court stuff. if not for the pandemic we would have made 3 tournaments in a row, 4+1 NIT berth out of 7, and only 1 losing conference record in that stretch.
Fran loves to stick up for his young guys! We might see the return of FranCon-1 next year
Fran is going to have to do the best coaching job of his career to get Iowa back to the tourney next season. Unless JBo wants one last hurrah, we are not going to have a legit 3-point threat coming back.
I think we'll see some respectable defense finally, but unless we get some better scoring from the guards, the NIT is probably Iowa's ceiling, at best.
"...most athletes aren't too bright!"
- Replace 'athletes' with 'people' and you'd be a smidge more accurate imo
"Even WITHOUT getting paid, they don't value their education so imagine their priorities if they are allowed to start making money!"
- To me this statement rings as more of a reason to find a reasonable way past amateurism in big-time CFB and CBB than anything else.. Im not sure how to get there or what it might look like though
- Replace 'athletes' with 'people' and you'd be a smidge more accurate imo
"Even WITHOUT getting paid, they don't value their education so imagine their priorities if they are allowed to start making money!"
- To me this statement rings as more of a reason to find a reasonable way past amateurism in big-time CFB and CBB than anything else.. Im not sure how to get there or what it might look like though
I agree CJ would have been a big factor next year and I'm not at all happy he's leaving but Perkins will be a better player than CJ going forward. Im am confident in that assessment. You can throw all the fits you want. Doesn't change anything.
Perkins has the ability to completely lock up a guy like CJ.
Last years PT is irrelevant when comparing a true frosh to a 3rd year player. Why couldn't anyone get minutes over Connor or JBO?
Its not about who's "better" when it comes to playing time with Fran.
You're right Fran places zero emphasis on defense in his evaluations of who he plays. If he did half the team would have looked different last year.
We'll see if Fran can take a team full of stud defenders and coach them out of playing good defense, I guess it's not out of the realm of possibility.
Lol, what?
All he was asked to do at Iowa was space the floor for Luka.
He had plantar fasciitis.
The fact that Fran has no official statement says a lot.
What would he say? Should he shit on him? Beg him to return?
Well this post aged well . So much for your intuition on this one....
This could have been cut and pasted from 2 years ago after Cook left.
Iowas at worst a bubble team next year.
Yeah, overall I don't think Bohannon playing this past year was good for anyone but him.
I hope Fran isn't stupid enough to try it again next year.
Im with @RocknRollface on this one. I would be more upset if Perkins left. Im ready for a different looking team for better or for worse.
The fact that he doesn't say anything at all shows how pissed he likely is. Nunge, Pemsl, Dailey, etc all got praise and well-wishes when they left.
If it were a just world, he'd call CJ and his family out for being 2-faced pieces of shit, but it's not unfortunately.
No one in the history of sports has done less with more than Cal.
Well, maybe Lebron.
Why does it seem as though this transfer portal is a one way street out of Iowa?
As much as I would like to have CJ back next year, his WAR is probably about 1.4. The idea that losing him takes us from a tournament team to something terrible is a bit much. If Joe W doesn't return, we are going to struggle either way.
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If you’re leaving a program you are probably looking to “chase rings/tournament success” would you want to come to Iowa where we haven’t made it out of the first weekend in 20+ years?
CJ will miss half the year anyway and pump fake the other half
If you take away the majority of Heros athleticism maybe.
I think he'll do good at UK as a spot up shooter though because they have plenty of guys who can beat a defender off the dribble.
Agree, and he wasn't just going to transfer anywhere. Would almost bet if Kentucky or any of his other local schools didn't show any interest, he would be staying at Iowa.
Given the makeup of the rosters, this move seems to hurt Iowa more than it benefits Kentucky. Will the addition of CJ really move the needle for them?
If McCaffery is having difficulty getting recruits and transfers to a school that was in the Top Ten the majority of the year, how would he do any better for a team that finishes in the basement of the B1G? We can only hope our bench is filled with the best kept secrets in the league.
From my experience in the past ten years, customer service is dead! That's the problem. You're almost shocked (and pleasantly surprised) when someone actually goes out of their way to help you.
Yeah maybe. Fact is nobody knows until all the games are played next year. Iowa still has plenty of good players around, and we MAY be pleasantly surprised how good some of them are a year older, a different role, more minutes, etc.
Losing the NPOY isn't good, but you'll likely see a different brand of basketball without Luka being the center of attention. But that doesn't mean they can't play winning basketball. I would guess the scoring goes down, but that could be offset some with better defense.
Watching Keegan Murray (and Kris in very limited minutes), does anybody think Kris Murray is going to be a stiff? Not me. We've got guys who can play, they may shine or they may dissapoint collectively, but until I see how it goes with my own two eyes I'm not gonna project doom and gloom OR greatness, because frankly nobody knows as of today.
I know going in we're not likely to win a National Championship, same as every year, so my hope is we're competitive and entertaining and finish as high as we can. We'll see a year from now how it worked out.
LOL! It might be on life support, but not dead IMO. I don't want to hijack this thread of doom and gloom, so apologies in advance, but our small Company puts a great deal of emphasis on Customer Service. Not everybody provides it however, and frankly some people are just plain lazy and are always going to be (they can be replaced! Ha!).
The good news is that if you're someone who provides it on a regular basis, you'll likely be rewarded in many ways, and not just monetarily. No matter your occupation, the Customer notices and they feel good, and so should the provider of it, even if there's nothing in it but a smile and a Thank You. Those little things are important too.
Still, it's got to be a step up for a lot of players, either stars on mid major or Div II teams that always wanted to play on the biggest stage.
Now now, we could always pay the other team to score our points for us. There's always a way.....
Can't tell me there was not tamping done by Kentucky in this case......their head coach is DIRTY as they come!
No question about that but .... so what? Nothing is going to happen to Cal or to Kentucky.
