agreedBarta should have been canned after the Jane Meyer $6M lawsuit fiasco
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agreedBarta should have been canned after the Jane Meyer $6M lawsuit fiasco
I don’t say that to trash what Hayden did, he was the Iowa coach of my youth and my first football memory is his first Rose Bowl…..but for a variety of reasons, the cupboard was really, really bare at the end of Fry’s tenure. That’s why I said “restore”.….but only for the brand of Iowa football. When I think of Hayden Fry, I don’t think of the end, I think of the Rose Bowls and the exotics. I agree with you that the 10-1-1 91 team that got stuck in the Holiday bowl was potentially his best team.Iowa had 1 bad season at the end of Hayden's tenure when he was hiding a cancer diagnosis, does that mean Kirk's brand gets flushed down the toilet if this season turns out to be like 2012? Kirk's only cancer is his blind nepotism and that's self imposed
Iowa was in the Rose Bowl in 90 and 91 team might have been Hayden's best at 10-1-1. That 97 team was ranked most of season and would have stayed if Sherman wasn't so awful. That Shaw/Banks/Dwight/DeVries brand of football was at least entertaining to watch but 95-97 was very Kirk like as far as results. I bet Kirk would be the first to defend what Hayden built and laugh at the idea he was a savior to it. Kirk doesn't have success year 3 without guys like Betts, Kampman, Hill.
As Joe would say, Come on Man ! We are 9th nationally in wins over the past 7 years.The usual ‘we are just Iowa’ post, and ‘be careful what you wish for’. No coach stays at a program this long anymore unless they are winning championships. Kirk isn’t doing that even in the pathetic west division. Except for last year when every bounce went our way, and the defense bailed us out every game. The program is stale, and has been. The only coach that should still be here is Woods, and Parker. Other than that they should all be gone and start from scratch. We could be a hell of a lot better with someone other than a Ferentz here, you know maybe a coach that had a clue about offense.
Go back and take a look at our cake-walk schedules.As Joe would say, Come on Man ! We are 9th nationally in wins over the past 7 years.
Anybody that drinks bacardi and coke should not be taken seriously. Three fingers of bourbon or single malt is the only way to go.Go back and take a look at our cake-walk schedules.
Bacardi and Cola. Do it. Do it.
Don't disagree but this one is getting overplayed. If you think he made the decision on how to handle that situation you would be mistaken. The HR and legal eagles make those calls and GB followed directions on how to proceed. There are plenty of other reasons that you can make for getting rid of him rather than this tired claim. Honestly it's just lazy.Barta should have been canned after the Jane Meyer $6M lawsuit fiasco
I've appreciated all the great things KF has done at Iowa but have also not been afraid to criticize him through the years either when I felt warranted.Ferentz is getting long in the tooth. How long do folks think he’ll remain? Often times coaches like Ferentz try to stay on too long and things start to fall apart or get stale. That happened to Bowden at FSU. I’ve always felt its best to pass the torch while the program remains strong and no major rebuild is required for the next guy. Go out on a good note before you have to be nudged out the door. I don’t get the sense that Ferentz will follow this route however. He’s stubborn and will probably have to be told to hang it up. And that will probably be to the program’s detriment.
With the hold Ferentz has on Barta, I wouldn't discount the idea of Brian being handed the job no matter what.Much ado about nothing. Let's say Iowa has losing seasons the next few years...the offense doesn't improve...KF would likely step down and negotiate the buyout. He's grateful for the way Iowa has treated him...and I believe he truly wants the best for the program. If he's not getting the job done...he would step down.
I honestly think his goal was to have Brian become the head coach when he is done, but that isn't happening with Brian's recent performance. I think the way KF was positioning was...if in two or three year...Brian has a successful offense...the team is winning...he transitions out and Brian takes the reigns. That plan is in the dumper right now...so all bets are off.
That's why they wait until EOS and if 7 wins don't materialize, he's let go as he did not reach the required wins, buyout should then be significantly less (if at all).For those that think Barta Has any say about him firing KF. Did you see the buy out.
Ace Anbender of thebucketproblem.com took on the task of compiling the various coaching contracts from across the Big Ten, and even though he knew Ferentz’s buyout was massive, the actual number turned out to be even bigger than he expected.
According to Anbender, Ferentz’s buyout is equal to $6 million per year for the duration of his contract. Since Ferentz has eight years remaining on his deal with the Hawkeyes, that means that if Iowa were to fire Ferentz today, they would still owe him a mindblowing $48 million.
This is exactly right, and it gives us an idea of Iowa's ceiling as a program. We're limited already by our state population and geography, let alone with another P5 program to compete with in-state. This isn't meant to be a "we're just poor old little old Iowa" talk, but to a degree it's true. What works for Alabama, Ohio State, ND, etc. isn't going to work for us. We can't beat the big boys at their own game, and both Fry and Ferentz understood/understand that.And yet didn't win anymore games, (which seems relevant). I've said this many times, but you can do your own research if you want. Fry (god love him for everything he did), psychology major. One of his greatest mental tricks he accompllished was getting the fan base to think we were some kind of offensive juggernaut. He did this by pounding the bad teams (especially the dregs of the BIG at the time) we played and running up the score on the NW, Minnesota, Wisconsin, and OSU teams. Then go back and see the scores and the record against the top teams. Its no better, and probably worse then KF's record. I think KF's record against ranked teams is certainly better then Fry's . Take a look.....
Who's talking about "cycling" through coaches? One change every 20 years is pretty much the opposite.I get frustrated with KF all the time but be careful what you wish for. Don't forget we are in Iowa and we have an excellent example of what can happen from two close neighbors to the west when you start cycling through coaches.
Barta should have fired Meyer when he let everyone know in a staff meeting he let Greisbalm go and Meyer unleashed an obscenity laced tirade in front of everyone for what he did. He should of said pack your things you are done as well which would have saved the program millions.6 Million? I would have given her $20M to leave, had I the capability.
Worth every penny.
We’re not expecting Heisman caliber QBs here. We’re expecting 5th year senior QBs that have played 3 years to know where to throw a short pass to make a crucial first down. Or maybe not lock on to only one TE as a target. Or maybe throw the ball further down the field than 5 yards. Or not overthrow a 6’6” TE by about 5 feet. Or not chuck the ball into the stands on 4th down when it is crucial to get a first down. Or a QB who can move faster than a 6 second 40. Or a QB who doesn’t mentally collapse if he sees someone in a non-Iowa jersey on the field.This is exactly right, and it gives us an idea of Iowa's ceiling as a program. We're limited already by our state population and geography, let alone with another P5 program to compete with in-state. This isn't meant to be a "we're just poor old little old Iowa" talk, but to a degree it's true. What works for Alabama, Ohio State, ND, etc. isn't going to work for us. We can't beat the big boys at their own game, and both Fry and Ferentz understood/understand that.
No one is denying what he has done for the program. He’s been a great ambassador for the team, program and state. He served his purpose, he put in 24 years but the game is passing him by. The only reason we went to Indy is because Wisky lost. We play in a crap division and he can’t even win that 25% of the time. Sadly, The game has evolved and he is being left behind.It was crickets at the end of the regular season last year. Iowa punched its ticket to Indy.
Fact is Iowa has gotten a great value in Ferentz. It’s gonna be a rough year but historically he turns it around. He has transformed the Iowa football brand, kinnick and the culture in very positive ways.
great quote!One of the greatest sins, is sticking around too long. This is true for parties, jobs or relationships.
If I had a nickel for every time I heard this in the last 5 years alone, I’d be a very rich man.Kirk isn't turning anything around. He has blocked himself into a catch 22 of offense ineptitude.
Yep, the cupboard was empty when Hayden retired. KF did a great job through his first 10 years or so. Anybody who doesn't think so doesn't know the history. The year we beat Nick Saban's LSU team in the Cap One bowl, the Hawkeyes had no running game. Did it all through the air. KF and the entire staff could flat out coach back in those days.I think “recovered” the brand is certainly warranted. The 90s Hawks were not the same as the 80s Hawks. Hayden had some good years in the mid-90s, but the program was clearly on the downswing when Fry retired.
Has like a 1 or 2 year contract. Not like Dad.Can Barta fire Brian? Whats his buy out?
And definitely for late night visits to OP's mom's house.One of the greatest sins, is sticking around too long. This is true for parties, jobs or relationships.
Yeah, F those golden wedding anniversaries.One of the greatest sins, is sticking around too long. This is true for parties, jobs or relationships.