He put his name in the transfer portal. I thought he’d fit in nicely with Ben’s system. Hard nosed kid, actually played defense and had a nice stroke. Sad to see him go.
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He played admirably when called upon. He was just limited physically but always hustled and seemed like a good teammate.
I hope he finds a good fit. A smaller school with a bigger role would be great.
Agree with all of that. McCollum doesn’t have a big rotation, normally 8 guys at the absolute most. He wouldn’t have played next year. Maybe someone at a low mid major gives him a chance next year.
I guess Stirtz will get to be #14 after all.
I wish CK well, cool that he followed in his Dad’s footsteps. Sometimes you need to fleece the herd though (or maybe it was his call) and I hope he finds a starting role at a smaller program maybe closer to home. 😎
There's no reason to have older players who won't contribute on the roster.
Ben will use the non rotation spots on developmental kids who may turn into something in a year or two.
That's the only way Iowa is going to get quality bigs in the portal era is by taking under the radar guys and developing them. You need space to store those guys for a couple years because a lot of them won't pan out.
Ben will use the non rotation spots on developmental kids who may turn into something in a year or two.
That's the only way Iowa is going to get quality bigs in the portal era is by taking under the radar guys and developing them. You need space to store those guys for a couple years because a lot of them won't pan out.
Yep, after listening to his interview today, I believe this is exactly right. Ben was talking a lot about developing from within.
No offense he is not a d1 player
It's nice to see the coach taking the roster seriously instead of whatever Fran was doing with Mulvey.
Its also nice to see a coach trying hard in the portal.
But he was a hawkeye and deserved to be treated as one and allowed to be part of the team. If we’re willing to throw out the old players then we have no reason to be mad at any player who has left or will leave in the future.
More like it helps having a little money to spend in the portal.
Trying hard and doing nothing equal the same results when you get outbid on every single quality target.
Best of luck to him in the future. I hope that he finds a good fit and gets serious playing time.
Played great defense against that Maryland big
He’s from Ponca, NE. Go play at Wayne State. I played baseball there and the basketball and baseball programs were always good. Wayne America!
I don't think anyone is "mad at him leaving", but I also don't get "allowing him to be part of the team" either. What does that even mean? I've never understood Frans deal with Mulvey or giving rides to walk ons. They're players or their not. If the guy doesn't have the potential to be at least a rotation player within a couple of seasons then theres no reason for them on the roster. {And yes the same thing goes for Jans crew). Not with the way these things turnover. Grow and improve as a program or fall further behind. Kind of what we saw from Fran..
You mean bringing in an entire MVC team?
I said mad at any player, like dix, freeman, anyone. If we’re ok with kicking a team member off the team then the players need to look out for themselves. We had players stay last year out of loyalty, if in the future there is no loyalty then we won’t be able to compete because the good players will leave.
He came in as a walkon and there are no walkons anymore.
He can't be on the team without taking up a scholarship now.
Every scholarship and resource needs to be used responsibly.
I could be wrong, but I believe Iowa is only going to fund 13 scholarships, even with the 15-man roster limit. With Title 9, any new scholarship offered for a men’s sport would have to be matched with a new scholarship for a women’s sport.
So I think we still could end up with 1 or 2 walk-ons.
That said, I agree with the sentiment that resources should be used judiciously.
Hopefully thats wrong. I can't imagine Ben would have even agreed to come here if the school was going to display that level of non support over basically nothing compared to the money that's coming in and out.
Having the same number of scholarships to work with as the competition is about as basic as it gets.
Where is it said he wasn't "allowed to be part of the team" and thrown out?
Perhaps it’s a bit more complicated than I made it seem, as it sounds like the value of any new scholarships added above the original 13 would be deducted from the amount of money each school can allocate toward revenue sharing.
Here’s a good article I found from Sports Illustrated on the topic: Link
I mean trying to fund raise and recruit guys in the portal in year zero, instead of pouting and poor boying to the media in year 15.
That's what I meant.
Interesting. I was not aware of any of that.
So the ncaa is attempting to basically do away with pay to play collectives.
I'm not sure how they expect that to fly in court but glad they're trying something.
I didn’t read the entire article, but for basketball it doesn’t seem like it would change the revenue sharing that much.
The 14th and 15th guys could each get a half scholarship and a few thousand in cash thrown their way and it still would be less than 100k. That wouldn’t be much impact on the roster as a whole, especially with outside NIL funds.
So, how do you know that He and Ben didn't sit down and talk and decide it was mutually beneficial for him to look elsewhere for playing time?
So those guys he develops leaves for teams who actually have NIL to pay them....how nice of him to do all the work and let others teams use the results
What is this? He deserves to be part of the team. It’s not JR High.
The roster limit is 15. How many scholarships that are given is up to the school.
I wonder if he was told that he probably would not see much playing time and then decided to move on. I think that he has been in school for four years.
Yes, Fran never ran the program like it was a business, even though he was paid CEO money. Scholarships were development tools. For Fran, they were candy to be given out to friends and family. Clearly College b-ball is 100% a business now, and a Coach has to wear GM hat, HR hat, and also be X an O guy. We have the right coach now. Whether he can compete with $5-6 million in NIL is the question. Also how the team does the following year post Stirtz.
He’s not good enough to play for Drake.
Ok. He fits right in with them and after losing their team they could probably use him.
Decent player and played hard for the Hawks. We are not in the position to be giving out legacy scholarships if the current staff doesn't think he is going to fit for them.
So Fran should have Creaned him? What's the difference of having 2-3 guys on the bench that never see the court versus, what 4-5 now that won't?
Yup, let’s face it, Fran seemed to be handing scholies out like candy. I am all for a feel good walk-on story every now and again, but Fran really went overboard with his allotment of scholies to walk-ons….luckily those days are behind our program now. 😎
Yes, of course the coach should tell older players who haven't paned out to move on to somewhere they can play. It's irresponsible not to. They're getting paid.
The roster spots at the end of the bench should always be young players who have potential upside. If they don't realize that potential upside then they move on after 2 or 3 years and they are replaced by new players with potential upside.
I would be upfront with them from the start on how it would work. They get a chance to earn their way into the rotation and earn a larger pay check all while getting a scholarship and some small amount of pay. You get two, or three years to make it happen.
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