Kirk Needs To Take Lessons From Urban and tOSU

[IowaHawkeyeFBnBB4Life]

tOSU is up 35-0 (now 42-0) in the early 3rd Q. They are still tossing it down field and running a fast paced offense. That is called going for the knockout punch and not giving your opponent any hope. Far too many times we see Kirk with a 17-21 point lead content with just running up the middle into 9 guys and then punting all the time in the 2nd half.

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

Except of course KF doing that same thing you suggest just 1 week ago against the Illini.

 

[markfromj]

Does the Kirk plan generally work?

 

[Sett1997]

Urban has Ohio State firing on all cylinders.

 

[ChiHawk21]

Urban has the athletic tools to do things like that. Including 5-star recruits. Lots of them.

We win in the trenches. Plain and simple. No reason to change that, and in reality, if we try...we will become Nebraska.

 

[Hawkeye3087]

Damn right.... still can't get over all those 21 point leads KF blew

 

[QChawks]

We have an average OL and a QB that can’t throw deep ball to save his life.

We are lucky to score 30 points

 

[MeetTheFerentz]

I'll be sure to send KF a memo next time we have a 35 point lead.

 

[OutbackBowl2017]

Didn't Iowa beat Nebraska 40-10 and let up at the end or it would of been worse?

Also, as soon as Riley pulls his # 1's then Urb will do the same. If Mike doesn't, neither will the Urb.

 

[QChawks]

Twitter is having fun with this game. Lol

 

[IGot5onIt]

Urban has the athletic tools to do things like that. Including 5-star recruits. Lots of them.


We win in the trenches. Plain and simple. No reason to change that, and in reality, if we try...we will become Nebraska.

Truest shit I've read on here in a minute

 

[LeftyLarry]

Riley was beaten up badly last week by Badgers, I've made a lot of money betting against teams the next week after they take a beating from Wisconsin and yes, sometimes from Iowa.
Be surprised how this holds up year after year.

 

[kceasthawk]

Except of course KF doing that same thing you suggest just 1 week ago against the Illini.

Well, then there's that.......

 

[Script_IOWA]

Truest shit I've read on here in a minute

This. Do your thing. If you don't have a thing, find one.

 

[BigDelHawk]

tOSU is up 35-0 (now 42-0) in the early 3rd Q. They are still tossing it down field and running a fast paced offense. That is called going for the knockout punch and not giving your opponent any hope. Far too many times we see Kirk with a 17-21 point lead content with just running up the middle into 9 guys and then punting all the time in the 2nd half.

Urban can have players get hurt and not lose much, we cannot.

 

[St_Henry_Buckeye]

Riley was beaten up badly last week by Badgers, I've made a lot of money betting against teams the next week after they take a beating from Wisconsin and yes, sometimes from Iowa.
Be surprised how this holds up year after year.

LOL

 

[BlackNGoldBleeder]

To a large extent, I agree with the OP. Iowa tends to go into a shell after getting up by more than two touchdowns throughout the latter part of Kirk's tenure. Until it's into the 4th quarter, Iowa needs to continue to have their foot on the gas. That doesn't mean you have to go out of character and pass every play. That doesn't mean you need to be in a five-wide spread formation and run tempo. It just means run your offense as normal, mixing in pass and run plays to keep the defense honest and to keep the chains moving.

The problem with the Iowa offense this season, however, has clearly not been going into a shell after getting a big lead. The problem has been Iowa's predictable play calling, running on 1st and 2nd Down almost every possession (despite the fact other teams are stacking the box and sending LBs on a beeline to stuff the run on those downs). Iowa hasn't been able to get much of a lead in any game this season because of this approach, and it would be interesting to look up what percentage of possessions this season have gone 1st Down run stuffed, 2nd Down run stuffed, 3rd Down pass incomplete out of the shotgun.

 

[obfuscating]

It was just funny as hell watching nebby get throttled yet again. The program is a dumpster fire.

 

[Herkmeister]

Urban has Ohio State firing I all cylinders.

All cylinders? Man Sett, I’d say he has them turbo charged.

But I’m with you on the point you make.

 

[Slappy Pappy]

Urban has Ohio State firing I all cylinders.

Nah, they were only playing Nebraska. Have to watch them playing a defense with a pulse to tell.

 

[ROCKY MOUNTAIN HAWK]

Nah, they were only playing Nebraska. Have to watch them playing a defense with a pulse to tell.

Agree, I'd have to see how Oh St matches up with N Ill before I can make a decision about how good they're really playing.

 

[R1950]

tOSU is up 35-0 (now 42-0) in the early 3rd Q. They are still tossing it down field and running a fast paced offense. That is called going for the knockout punch and not giving your opponent any hope. Far too many times we see Kirk with a 17-21 point lead content with just running up the middle into 9 guys and then punting all the time in the 2nd half.

I don't think it's a matter of Urban trying to run up the score but more of trying to get the offense hitting on all cylinders due to some blockbuster opponents coming up in the next few weeks. Keep in mind, at the beginning of the year - first couple of games - everything was out of synch. The next four weeks will tell if OSU is getting better as the season rolls along. OSU has PSU, Iowa, MSU, and Mich still left on the schedule.

 

[Muskie5]

To a large extent, I agree with the OP. Iowa tends to go into a shell after getting up by more than two touchdowns throughout the latter part of Kirk's tenure. Until it's into the 4th quarter, Iowa needs to continue to have their foot on the gas. That doesn't mean you have to go out of character and pass every play. That doesn't mean you need to be in a five-wide spread formation and run tempo. It just means run your offense as normal, mixing in pass and run plays to keep the defense honest and to keep the chains moving.

The problem with the Iowa offense this season, however, has clearly not been going into a shell after getting a big lead. The problem has been Iowa's predictable play calling, running on 1st and 2nd Down almost every possession (despite the fact other teams are stacking the box and sending LBs on a beeline to stuff the run on those downs). Iowa hasn't been able to get much of a lead in any game this season because of this approach, and it would be interesting to look up what percentage of possessions this season have gone 1st Down run stuffed, 2nd Down run stuffed, 3rd Down pass incomplete out of the shotgun.

You really need to attempt to stay sober on saturdays, or at least rewatch the games when you are. Just regurgitated nonsense from fans than have very little understanding of the game and apparently don't pay much attention to them. The people that always talk about how predictable their plays are, couldn't name one of their (Iowa's) plays, any of their formations, or any of their packages, etc...lol. Well. I predict that they will run or pass on first down....they are so predictable, lol.

 

[BlackNGoldBleeder]

You really need to attempt to stay sober on saturdays, or at least rewatch the games when you are. Just regurgitated nonsense from fans than have very little understanding of the game and apparently don't pay much attention to them. The people that always talk about how predictable their plays are, couldn't name one of their (Iowa's) plays, any of their formations, or any of their packages, etc...lol. Well. I predict that they will run or pass on first down....they are so predictable, lol.

Thanks for the sobriety tip. I'll keep that in mind the next time I reach for that third or fourth Pepsi next Saturday.

I get you were trying to be cute and sound clever--an epic fail no less--but other than sounding like a glib, annoying wise ass, what exactly did you accomplish, as far as repudiating anything I wrote is concerned? Nothing.

Uhh...lol, yes, you are correct, I am not on the Iowa football team, and am therefore not privy to the specific terminology they use when calling plays. Absolutely astute on your part to put that together. While I have played football, and therefore understand various offensive formations/packages (double tights, trips, strong sides, etc.), passing routes (posts, quick slants, flags, etc.) and run plays (counters, traps, etc. designed to go through A, B, or C gaps) none of that really adds or takes away from anything I wrote. Because what we are essentially talking about is general football strategy, as it relates to passing/running on specific downs based upon what the opposing defense is doing/lining up in. I get your response was to try to come across as smart and sophisticated, but how about an actual discussion that stays on topic?

Okay, so now that we've gotten that out of the way, please share where my post goes wrong, specifically as it relates to my response to the OP. If you have something of substance we can discuss/debate, cool. If you are just one of those pompous, "I know football, you don't" ass clowns, but can never provide anything concrete to validate your claims beyond meaningless quips like "you're drunk" "you're stupid," then in the future please don't respond to me. Thanks.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Riley was beaten up badly last week by Badgers, I've made a lot of money betting against teams the next week after they take a beating from Wisconsin and yes, sometimes from Iowa.
Be surprised how this holds up year after year.

Yes, I agree. F*** Wisconsin. Good call.