Leading liberal says Obama worse than Bush

[CarolinaHawkeye]

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...s-worse-than-bush.html?source=TDB&via=FB_Page

Unfortunately, there is only one paragraph about half way through the article.

 

[INXS83]

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...s-worse-than-bush.html?source=TDB&via=FB_Page

Unfortunately, there is only one paragraph about half way through the article.

You never know what a celebrity is going to say. John has a pretty sharp mind, but he's pretty jaded, as anyone who has been an actor in Hollywood for going on 3 decades is going to be.

 

[Aegon_Targaryen]

"Well, Obama has certainly extended and hardened the cement on a lot of Bush’s post-9/11 Terror, Inc. policies, so he’s very similar to Bush in every way that way. His domestic policy is a bit different, but when you talk about drones, the American Empire, the NSA, civil liberties, attacks on journalism and whistleblowers, he’s as bad or worse than Bush. He hasn’t started as many wars, but he’s extended the ones we had, and I don’t even think Dick Cheney or Richard Nixon would say the president has the right to unilaterally decide whom he can kill around the world. On Tuesdays, the president can just decide whom he wants to kill, and you know, since 9/11 there are magic words like “terror,” and if you use magic words, you can justify any power grab you want."

Sounds spot on to me.

 

[CarolinaHawkeye]

"Well, Obama has certainly extended and hardened the cement on a lot of Bush’s post-9/11 Terror, Inc. policies, so he’s very similar to Bush in every way that way. His domestic policy is a bit different, but when you talk about drones, the American Empire, the NSA, civil liberties, attacks on journalism and whistleblowers, he’s as bad or worse than Bush. He hasn’t started as many wars, but he’s extended the ones we had, and I don’t even think Dick Cheney or Richard Nixon would say the president has the right to unilaterally decide whom he can kill around the world. On Tuesdays, the president can just decide whom he wants to kill, and you know, since 9/11 there are magic words like “terror,” and if you use magic words, you can justify any power grab you want."

Sounds spot on to me.

This and the fact he has amplified the too big to fail jargon.

 

[St. Louis Hawk]

So, if President Obama is worse than President Bush because he continued and even enlarged some of the Bush Administration's practices, it would seem to me that republicans should love President Obama .... Irony can be pretty ironic sometimes.

 

[Aegon_Targaryen]

This and the fact he has amplified the too big to fail jargon.

What is funny is that DC was bitching about Too big to fail, and then they handed them over the means to grow even bigger. JP Morgan and such were bringing in major profits shortly after the Stimulus was put through. $615 billion went out, and $670 billion came back in.

Most of the money has been returned to the "Treasury", except that it's not the Treasuries money, it's the Federal Reserves money. The US treasury doesn't control the currency nor own it, the Federal Reserve does. So The Federal Reserve helped it's own self grow bigger as well, due to the fact that the Federal Reserve is made up of 12 of the largest banking companies in the country.

In order to have returned the money, and to STILL be bringing in large profits, you have to conclude, that this move was more about consolidation than anything. Basically, they turned a crisis into a win for them, and rewarded themselves for their shoddy market practices.
This link here provides a breakdown of how the Bailout went. If the crisis was so dire, then how was it this easy to get out of it? Just a question some people have.
https://projects.propublica.org/bailout/

 

[Aegon_Targaryen]

So, if President Obama is worse than President Bush because he continued and even enlarged some of the Bush Administration's practices, it would seem to me that republicans should love President Obama .... Irony can be pretty ironic sometimes.

Not all of us are Republicans STLHawk. I don't see this as President this guy vs. President that guy. I see this as DC as whole.